What autoloading rifles are on the market?


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Surefire
July 5, 2006, 11:15 PM
Has to be CA legal, and no ARs with fixed magazines (I don't understand the advantage of a fixed magazine for an autoloader)



I can think of the following:

Ruger Mini 14/30 (have a Mini-14, not too fond of the accuracy)

Remington 7400 (no slide hold open I hear, thus not acceptable)

Browning BAR (looks nice, don't know anything about it)

Springfield M1A (would be an easy choice if not so pricey)

I'd prefer a rifle chambering, such as .223, .243, or .308 (my goal is to standardize to only these chamberings).

What other models am I missing? Which are good choices for 100 yard target shooting, and having around for a SHTF scenario?

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pcf
July 5, 2006, 11:19 PM
sks, minus bayonet and grenade launcher?
Benelli R1.
GARAND!

roscoe
July 5, 2006, 11:22 PM
This is a much-chewed topic. We love talking about exactly this kind of thing (although you will have few offerings in .243). Try a search of SHTF in the rifle forums here and at TFL.

For starters: SKS, SU16, Saiga, Garand, M1A, BAR, Mini 14/30, neutered ARs.

dmckean44
July 5, 2006, 11:30 PM
Volquartsen Evolution, M1 Carbine, Ruger Deerfield 99/44, Stripper Clip fed FAL


roscoe,

Saiga isn't legal, it's listed.

pcf,

bayonets are cali legal.

roscoe
July 6, 2006, 12:19 AM
I believe that older Saigas are listed, but not EAA or the newest imports, as they must be according to the law. You can doublecheck at calguns, and here, but I believe that this is the consensus.

Ironballs
July 6, 2006, 01:33 AM
M1 Carbine
M1 Garand
Keltec Su16 (a, and b and ca model)

crazed_ss
July 6, 2006, 01:57 AM
I agree fixed-mag AR's are gay.. For now, the SKS fills my semi-auto needs. It's super cheap, reliable, fairly accurate, and can be loaded quickly with stipper clips. I'm gonna get a M1A one of these days. It's pricey, but it's the best thing we've got there. I think Mini-14's are overpriced and dont care to support Ruger anyway. I was considering a SU-16 for awhile, but I've heard they have a number of problems. If there's anything I hate, it's an unreliable firearm.

aaronrkelly
July 6, 2006, 04:42 AM
In Cali I would say the Keltec SU16 family is your best bet.

Number 6
July 6, 2006, 06:45 AM
Has to be CA legal, and no ARs with fixed magazines (I don't understand the advantage of a fixed magazine for an autoloader)

Why not just build it without a pistol grip and flash suppressor, and then have your detachable magazine?

Short of that, here is a list of Cali legal autoloaders that I can think of. I am sure there are more and many of the ones below might not fit your criteria, but some you might want to look at.

Mini-14/30
SU-16 A,B,CA
Beretta RX4 (If it is made available to civilian sales)
Ruger PC9/40
Ruger Deerfield
Marlan Camp 9/45
M1 Garand
M1 Carbine
M1A
M1941 Johnson
SKS
Volquartsen Evolution
Modified FAL
Rasheed
Hakim
FN49
VZ-52/57
SVT
MAS49
Ljungman
BAR
Benelli R1
Remington 7400
1919
Vickers
M-31 Suomi
PPSH-41(This one and the Suomi might not be long enough for California if you get the versions from Military Gun Supply)

roscoe
July 6, 2006, 01:14 PM
Oh yeah, the HK SL6 or SL7, if you got the dough. Beautiful rifles.

Surefire
July 6, 2006, 10:34 PM
An AR without a pistol grip is a neutered AR, IMO. I'd rather just have an M1A than to build an AR without a pistol grip. YMMV

Surefire
July 9, 2006, 11:37 PM
Who makes the best (or one of the best) M1 carbines?

Looks like a nice handy medium range rifle?


Anyone offer it with synethic stock?

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