Anybody ccw a CZ82/83?


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kentucky_smith
July 6, 2006, 12:15 AM
Experiences? Opinions? I've got 4 CZ pistols, but none are suitable for ccw. Okay, the cz50 is, but 9x18 is a great round.

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Kestrel
July 6, 2006, 01:03 AM
Experiences? Opinions? I've got 4 CZ pistols, but none are suitable for ccw. Okay, the cz50 is, but 9x18 is a great round.

Well, you can certainly carry the CZ-83. It is a good pistol, but I wouldn't want to carry such a marginal caliber. The minimum I would carry, is 9mm (for primary), but would prefer something heavier (.40, .45). For the size of the CZ-82/83, you can carry a better caliber.

9x18 is a great round for what? I think it's marginal and it doesn't have the bullet designs available that even the .380 has, much less something like a 9mm/.40/.45. It's certainly better than carrying nothing, but if you have a choice, I would get something more suitable. (The 9x18 is just a tad faster than the .380.)

No offense, but since you asked for opinions, that's mine. I would consider a 9mm at the minimum. It sounds like you don't have a CZ-82/83 and it's okay to have one, but it's not a great caliber choice for personal defense.

Dollar An Hour
July 6, 2006, 02:45 AM
+1 Kestrel

The CZ-83 is just so bulky for it's caliber. For the size I'd carry a 9mm or larger caliber pistol.

Besides, good luck finding good leather for a CZ-83. :uhoh:

usp9
July 6, 2006, 09:01 AM
Besides, good luck finding good leather for a CZ-83.

Bianchi makes an IWB holster that fits well. Labeled for the Beretta 84, but these guns are the same size.

Texfire
July 6, 2006, 01:08 PM
Also HBE (Holsters by Eric) and Ross Leather offer holsters for a CZ82/83. I fully intended to carry my CZ82 CCW, but by the time I had my CHL and found a holster for IWB carry I had also found a used K9. I mostly carry it instead. Nothing against the CZ, but for me as a platform it's a little fat in the grip for anything less than an 9mm.

Tex

Gun Wielding Maniac
July 6, 2006, 06:51 PM
I've got a CZ-82 I plan on using for CCW. It'll be back-up for my BHP or CZ-75.

I personally wouldnt have a problem using it as a primary. I don't regard its size as a big disadvantage. Pistols with teeny-tiny grips I have a hard time hanging onto. What is the point of a gun if you can't hit anything with it? As for caliber... Hornady makes a 95 grain hollowpoint load that is pretty destructive. It puts 9mm ball to shame, anyway. I've always been one who believed that it wasnt size that counted, but how you used it.

Anyway, look at some of the advantages of the CZ-82. 12+1 capacity, mild recoil, good sights, double action or single action cocked and locked, smooth trigger, and it has ambidextrous magazine release and safety. If I'm shot in my right hand, or my strong side is disabled by an attacker up close, I can draw the CZ from my left side and operate it without missing a beat. I believe drawing a secondary pistol is faster then a reload anyway...

STAGE 2
July 6, 2006, 08:04 PM
I'm willing to bet that those who poopoo the 9x18 sure wouldn't want to stand in front of one.

The CZ 83 is a great little pistol. You get 12+1 in a handy very concealable little package. The recoil is noticably less than a makarov and the thing is way more accurate than it has any right to be.

If you cant get the job done with 12+1 of 9mm mak then having a 9mm or a .45 won't make any difference.

Matt Dillon
July 6, 2006, 08:10 PM
I have a friend who gets 13 +1 in a CZ83, and carries it some times in a Pager Pal holster.

Kestrel
July 6, 2006, 09:39 PM
I'm willing to bet that those who poopoo the 9x18 sure wouldn't want to stand in front of one.

I doubt anyone would want to stand in front of a pellet rifle and get shot with one, either, but that doesn't mean it's one of the more effective calibers. By that logic, there is NO caliber too small, to be effective for self defense. It's simply not true.

If you cant get the job done with 12+1 of 9mm mak then having a 9mm or a .45 won't make any difference.

The issue is not how many rounds the pistol holds, but the effectiveness of the caliber. I would rather depend on a more effective caliber, than trying to compensate by emptying the gun and hoping it works. It is much more prudent to insist on an effective first and second shot, than hoping you can empty 13 shots into someone, making sure each one lands in the right place and penetrates deeply enough to stop an attacker. That just doesn't happen in a self defense shooting.

If someone really likes the gun, that's fine. I have one myself, but I do not carry it for protection. There is no reason for me to do so. Once you see how ineffective handgun rounds are in a shooting, you want all the advantage you can reasonably handle, afford and conceal.

Not trying to be argumentative - I just don't want to see kentucky_smith misled.

Gun Wielding Maniac
July 6, 2006, 09:53 PM
It is well known that handguns are ballistically and terminally inferior to rifles. What I don't get is why someone who says they "trust the .45 ACP" wouldn't trust a 9mm or a 9x18... Both penetrate about the same as a .45 ACP. As much as people love to talk about how a 9mm may expand but a .45 ACP won't shrink, you also can't carry 2 .45's for every 9mm. The point of this isnt to hate on the .45, but really, the differance between all these handguns in terms of final killing power... are approximate. Just how exactly does a person come to the conclusion that one cartridge is "Acceptable for self defense" while another is not? It must be a personal decision. KY_smith seems to think 9x18 is for him.

The question concerned the gun... not the cartridge.

kentucky_smith
July 6, 2006, 11:54 PM
Wow, I guess Warsaw Pact countries were underpowered for awhile, along with many people who carry a Makarov. :rolleyes:


I would rate 9x18 slightly above .380 and call it just fine for ccw. I'm looking for a ccw instructor in Kentucky and was thinking about a new pocket pistol, maybe even a keltec p32, but I guess I'll have to find somewhere to tuck the 1911, or the CZ75b, or the CZ40b. :D

CZF
July 7, 2006, 12:06 AM
I prefer a Cz82/83 over any MAK or other .380.
Ammo was hard to find in .380 for me..and double
tat for the 9mm Makarov fodder.

They are really nice guns, and WE hear little of problems with them.
Very accurate for the caliber and you can even put nites on them.
My old model 83 didn't like the Hornady XTP, but ate anything else.

The 83 fits most everyone and has gentle recoil as compared to other blowbacks.

http://onfinite.com/libraries/930722/03e.jpg

DansAmmo.com usually has good prices on bulk 9 mak.

cookekdjr
July 7, 2006, 12:09 AM
I think the CZ 82/83 is a wonderful pistol. No, the cartridge is not ideal (be it .32/.380/9x18), but the fact that so many love this pistol despite the cartridge should tell you something. Very accurate, reliable, great trigger, good pointer. I plan on buying another one.
-David

STAGE 2
July 7, 2006, 12:30 AM
I doubt anyone would want to stand in front of a pellet rifle and get shot with one, either, but that doesn't mean it's one of the more effective calibers. By that logic, there is NO caliber too small, to be effective for self defense. It's simply not true.

I understand the point you are making, and I do agree with it. I'm a .45 guy for that very reason. However, there are some situations where concealibility overrides firepower. For john doe citizen I would guess that this would be a majority of the time.

As far as effectiveness goes, as much as I hate quips, there is a great deal of truth in the statement that a .22 that hits is far better than the .44 than misses. Tactics and proficiency are far more important than the numbers after the decimal point. I feel perfectly capable with my 5 shot snubby, but I'm not going to use it to charge up San Juan hill. I will use it to neutralize the threat and/or retreat. The same goes for my PPK. They arent hand cannons and they aren't offensive weapons. The CZ 83 is far better than either of these 2 pistols for a sustained gunfight, but it still wouldn't be my first choice for an extended shoot out.

For 99% of situations that a private citizen will face, the CZ 83 will perform admirably, and conceal well at the same time.

dairycreek
July 7, 2006, 02:55 AM
Used to carry this CZ83 in a FIST #1. Great combination. Sad to say I don't have it any more. My oldest daughter confiscated it and she loves it.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v736/dairycreek/CZ83FIST1-R.jpg

Buck Nekkid
July 7, 2006, 03:45 AM
Dairycreek, how do you have a "silver" trigger guard on your nickel 83?? I've got a nickel 83 that I carry in a Dillon concealed carry briefcase and have wished that the trigger guard was nickel like the rest of the gun.

I do not feel "undergunned" carrying the CZ 83 in 9 x 18 for one primary reason, I hit what I'm aiming at with it. Something I couldn't say about my old Taurus 85 that I used to carry.

Of the 7 or 8 CZ's that I own, the CZ 83 is right up there as far as accuracy goes. My CZ 97B might be a tad better, but it's about twice as heavy!! Not a very good CCW pistol for me!!

Texfire
July 7, 2006, 04:56 PM
I thought my comment was innocent enough, sure wasn't trying to start a caliber war. :banghead:

I'm not a size queen, I don't care if my firearm is in .45 ACP, .45 LC, .44 Mag, .44 Special, .40, .357 Magnum, .357 Sig, .38 Special, 9mm, 9mm Makarov, .380 ACP, 7.62x25 or anyone else's favorite caliber that I ran out of space to list. I care that I'm accurate with it, and it goes bang when I want it to. Almost all pistols are going to be less effective than a shotgun or a rifle all other things being equal, so to a certain extent every pistol is a compromise. But I can conceal a pistol much easier than a rifle or shotgun.

The point I was trying to make is that since 9mm Mararov is low enough powered that it can be chambered in a small direct blowback pistol, that's an advantage of the cartridge. The reason that I don't carry mine, besides the fact that I'm waiting on a holster for it, long story, is the CZ's double stack magazine makes the grip thick enough that it isn't any easier for me to conceal than a single stack 9mm and I find that the grip is the biggest factor on which gun I can conceal in a certain place comfortably. Nothing else. :scrutiny:

Tex

redman900
September 15, 2007, 01:13 AM
I carry mine and don't have a problem with it . I use fmj hornady 95gr.

Killian
September 15, 2007, 02:57 AM
What I don't get is why someone who says they "trust the .45 ACP" wouldn't trust a 9mm or a 9x18... Both penetrate about the same as a .45 ACP. As much as people love to talk about how a 9mm may expand but a .45 ACP won't shrink, you also can't carry 2 .45's for every 9mm. The point of this isnt to hate on the .45, but really, the differance between all these handguns in terms of final killing power... are approximate.
+1

I'll never forget the video about the cop who stops a truck and has the fellow start opening boxes in the back. The fellow gets to one box that he just does NOT want to open (cause it has drugs inside) and decides to stab the cop instead. Knife-wielder is a bit slow though and the cop backs off and shoots him. With a .45 ACP. Only response from the knife-wielder? "You shot me." Then he tries to CHASE the cop down and stab him again and finally gets into a wrestling match...AFTER BEING SHOT WITH THE .45ACP... gets taken to the ground in a choke hold and after a few minutes finally decides to give up.
Evidence enough for me that NO pistol caliber is an immediate stopper.

The difference between a .30-06 and a .45ACP?...HUGE!
The difference between a 9x18 and a .45ACP?...Not so much.

Carry the 9x18. Learn to shoot it ACCURATELY...then take an anatomy class to learn where to aim it.

mack69
January 21, 2008, 05:53 PM
Double tap to center mass... If that don't work one to the head...

I really like the CZ82 and agree that the 9x18 round is a o k. As lots have already said, the differences between handgun ammo is small and not enough to argue about. As far as most are concerned...bringing a gun to a gun fight is the most important thing followed by knowing how to use it....

PCRCCW
January 21, 2008, 08:36 PM
Ive carried 82's and 83's over the years and never felt under gunned. The guns are just so damn pointable, the triggers are vantastic and the are very dependeble and accurate.

If you shoot the gun as well as the gun can help you shoot...then you could do very well with carrying one of these.

Its very much the same as when people say the carry a 1911..because they are just shootable guns...same with CZ's. The 83 is probably one of the easiest guns to shoot well out of all of them........

Shoot well.

redactor
January 21, 2008, 09:41 PM
I've got one in my rotation, along with an SA-XD9 Service model and an all-stainless Commander-length 1911 in .45. The one I carry on a given day depends on what I'm wearing.

My preference is the Commander, but I don't feel under-gunned with the 82. All handguns are compromises, and everyone has to draw their own "line" somewhere. My "line" is "nothing less than .380 ACP," so 9x18 is sufficient by that measure.

For what it's worth, the 1911 weighs 35 oz unloaded. The XD9 and CZ-82 both weigh 28 oz unloaded. This makes a difference during 12 hours with the thing on your hip. The 82 is shorter in the barrel and in the butt than either of the other two, but the double-stack grip of the 82 is a bit wide. When bills allow, I'm thinking about adding a FEG PA-63, and maybe turning that XD-9 into a CZ-RAMI. As I understand, the RAMI is about the same size/weight as the 82.

JeepGeek
January 22, 2008, 03:08 AM
seems like Mozambiquing a BG would be a real good way to find yourself in a heap of trouble.

Nevermind that he started it, was a foot taller than you, and had a sawed-off shotgun in his hand he was raising in your direction, while coked out of his mind and shouting his intent to kill you, burn your wife, rape your children and eat your dog.

As soon as the DA finds out that you shot him in the head, their next words will be "execution-style murder". And you are deeply fornicated.

Treo
January 22, 2008, 02:16 PM
DW is actually very happy W/ hers. She's got some medical issues W/ her hands & 9X18 is about as big as she wants to go. but she can operate all the functions of the pistol & can tolerate the recoil , shoots very accurately W/ it & likes the concealability .

PCRCCW
January 22, 2008, 02:57 PM
Jeep....Well Ive got news for the DA and a simple Mozambiquing a BG if anything like this ever happens to me, god willing it will not.

They will be asking me how come I felt compelled to unload 20 rnds of 9mm JHP's into him....most of which were after he was down! The honest anwwer Id imagine is ....I was scared to death. My finger had a mind of its own.

I hear alot of shooters that have had this happen to them, cops, feds, regular ccw permit holders etc. Have a kinda "didnt know how many shots were fired" way about them after a real shooting.

Shoot well.

KevininPa
January 23, 2008, 08:01 PM
And I don't feel undergunned. They shoot great and are reliable. That and my Sig 232 are my carriers and my favorite shooters.

The_Shootist
January 23, 2008, 11:44 PM
Have a Mak and a Bersa Thunder POS that doesn't work. Rather that going to the trouble of getting it fixed I'm thinking maybe skip the hassle and get a CZ-83 (ie ger a REAL .380 that isn't likely to go south on me :fire:).

Its tough justifying it though. I'm sure 12-13 rounds of .380 in the Golden Sabre flavour will get me through a tight spot. But I have a G19 I carry most of the time and 15-16 rds of 9mm in a concealable package also makes me feel safe.

treelander
January 31, 2008, 09:49 PM
I CCW my CZ82. As has been mentioned, shot placement is much more important that "mine is bigger than yours".

Billll
May 9, 2008, 11:26 PM
"Nevermind that he started it, was a foot taller than you, and had a sawed-off shotgun in his hand he was raising in your direction, while coked out of his mind and shouting his intent to kill you, burn your wife, rape your children and eat your dog."

At this point I'd be inclined to think the fellow was already on a first-name basis with the DA, half the cops, and all the prison guards in the county, none of whom were going to miss him much.

FWIW, I just got an 82 myself, and except for finding ammo, I think it will make a fine carry gun. The holster that comes with it looks so little like a holster that you could probably pass it off as a camera case. Maybe put a "Cannon" logo on the flap.

chupacabrah
September 24, 2008, 12:01 PM
bringing this thread back to life. I just ordered a CZ82 today.
What IWB (or OWB) holsters do you guys like for these?

Southern6er
September 24, 2008, 02:50 PM
Where'd you order it from? I've seen em still at SOG.

JeepGeek
September 24, 2008, 03:44 PM
regarding holsters. I make my own.

chupacabrah
September 24, 2008, 03:55 PM
Where'd you order it from? I've seen em still at SOG.

I ordered from classicarms.us. most of the other ones I have found only come with one mag (ie. JG, centerfire).

Southern6er
September 24, 2008, 04:56 PM
Please post some pics when you get it. I'm curious as to the quality of the milsurp cz82's out there right now.

SouthronBoy
September 24, 2008, 07:27 PM
+1 on the request for pics. I'd like to see what's out there as well.

I carried a CZ-82 until it was stolen out of my truck, and I'm considering replacing it. I really loved the gun, but I'm trying to decide if I want a Kel-Tec P3AT or PF-9 for carry.

I'm carrying my Makarov these days. I like the 9x18 cartridge.

JeepGeek
September 24, 2008, 07:32 PM
I bought a CZ82 about this time last year. It was milsurp, and they showed a lot of wear since the finish was black paint, not even phosphate covered.

eatont9999
September 24, 2008, 07:47 PM
I would have no problem carrying a CZ82. I might want to find some decent hollow points, but that is all. Carry 'till your heart's content!

ARTiger
September 24, 2008, 08:23 PM
I carry a CZ 82 now versus a fairly good selection of more powerfully calibered handguns I own. I do so because I can get more accurate hits faster than anything else short of .22's.

One shot stops are iffy with any handgun caliber and anything worth shooting is worth shooting until it stops IMO. The CZ82/83 has a very carryable "form factor" unlike the blocky slides of larger caliber S/A's and conceals well IWB.

Practice ammo is cheap and allows for lots of familiarization and ongoing proficiency. Which is VERY important.

Staggering mags with Hornady 95 grain XTP JHP's and Fiocchi FMJ's gives both expansion and penetration with LOW recoil and the ability to stay on target for fast multiple aimed follow ups.

Sorry to the caliber snobs, but I don't see anything at all wrong with this carry platform. I know a few guys who carry small .45's and .40's that I can get 13 in the black at 10 yards before they can do the same with 4.

chupacabrah
September 24, 2008, 10:26 PM
Mine should be here tomorrow...I'll be sure to oblige with pics :D

Also, as far as holsters....I'm looking at the FIST #1, any experiences with that?
or other recommendations?

eatont9999
September 24, 2008, 10:36 PM
YES, definitely gun porn! Even if I have seen it 1000 times before, it still looks good.

jdc1244
September 24, 2008, 10:46 PM
I own and carry both (not at the same time, of course…;) ); no problems, no worries.

chupacabrah
September 26, 2008, 08:42 AM
Pics:


(They're thumbnailed to save bandwidth, click to make bigger.)

Like I said, got this from classicarms.us. SOG has them too, and they also have 2 mags and all that.

Here we go:

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Also got the 4 AK mag deal with pouch for $44.95 while I was at it:
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jwr747
September 26, 2008, 04:51 PM
often carry my CZ82 as my CCW. will admit,it's one of my most accurate pistol,out to 25 yds.but with my "full figure" it is a little bulky.but I can put enough rounds in "chest or head area" to ruin most BG's day.I have no problem with the 9X18. jwr

krs
September 26, 2008, 06:36 PM
I have two CZ-82's and I think that there are early and later models because the older had trouble with hollow points until I hogged out the feedramp wider while the other gun never had a problem with the same hollow points.

I use 'Silver Bear' Russian made 120 grain hollow points. They're faster than Wolf ammo judging by the felt recoil and expand to slightly less than 1/2" in plywood.

The combination doesn't need to apologize to anything. It works with boring reliability and is still comfortable to shoot.

I'm sure that I bought the Silver Bears at Sportsman's Guide.

jam_o_matic
August 8, 2009, 03:34 PM
Resurrecting this thread again for anyone like me who's looking for good
leather for a CZ-82 or CZ-83. I picked up a used Galco Fletch holster
#FL206 at a gun show today, it fits my CZ-82 like a glove.

http://i979.photobucket.com/albums/ae273/jam_o_matic/DSCN5677.jpg

The thumb break is also just right to act as a hammer fall for cocked & locked carry.

m2steven
August 8, 2009, 04:09 PM
I carry one daily in a fanny pack and it's an excellent pistol. Easy to get to, can be carried with safety on or with pistol uncocked in double action mode for first shot. It's my opinion after having seen a lifetime of shootings on the news that a 380 will serve you well for it's purpose: fairly close in contact.

Plus - it's just a cool gun and beautiful. It shoots well and is reliable. It has a fat grip due to double stack capability, but that allows the small barrel to hide seamlessly in under waistband and the handle is rounded and smooth and easy to bear if carrying that way.

I can recommend it as a good self defense weapon. As someone said, you can sometimes get 13 rounds in the mag and it works perfectly like that, but 12 + 1 is certainly going to be painful.

Unlike some others, I feel well protected with a 380.

christcorp
August 9, 2009, 01:49 AM
Glad this thread got resurrected. I too carry a CZ-82. Was carry it today. It depends on my clothing. If I wear a tucked in t-shirt, then I carry the CZ-82 on an ankle holster, partially inside my boot. If I'm wearing a loose hanging shirt, I carry the CZ with an IWB holster. I'm looking for a better one. I prefer IWB over belt types. Finding a good molded IWB is difficult. But this caliber is definitely a fantastic choice.

Gelgoog
August 9, 2009, 02:15 AM
I've had both. I can't say I particularily like the recoil characteristics of the .380, and was not particularly fond of it in the CZ83. I sold that one when I needed the money. Recently I got my hands on a CZ82 and it was instant love. The gun just fits the hands so well, is very compact, and is about as accurate a handgun as I have ( I have lots to choose from, so thats saying alot).

Cactus Jack Arizona
August 9, 2009, 03:27 AM
I've never experienced any kind of failure at the range with any of my 9x18 pistols or their rounds. No, the Russian hollow points are not pretty rounds. Yes, they clearly lack the luster that we are used to seeing. Personally, I don't care what they look like. In fact, I carry 9x18 exclusively.

I think it will be easier to find a CZ 82 in 9x18 than a CZ 83 in 9x18 since the CZ 83 has to be special ordered in 9x18. I've never seen one and ordering one is supposed to be next to impossible, or so I'm told from my local gun dealers.

BTW, if you really want 9x18 hollow points that really are pretty and shiny, try the Hornady 95 gr. HP/XTP in 9x18 Makarov. :)

eatont9999
August 9, 2009, 10:09 AM
I carried my CZ-82 a few times IWB. It is a little thick.

Comanche180
August 9, 2009, 09:29 PM
I sometimes carry my CZ83, it is a good gun. Usually though, I carry the XD9SC. It's about the same size and weight and is a bit more potent. I don't worry that a .380 is underpowered however, twelve holes should be fairly effective if need be. I use a Bianchi IWB; I can't remember the model but it is size 10.

m2steven
August 10, 2009, 04:14 AM
The thing i've noticed about my body is that it does not like square guns like the Glock 26. Even though the CZ83 has a grip/handle which is probably thicker than the Glock 26, it is rounded and very smooth. It gives a bit as I move if i'm carrying IWB. Also, the barrel part is pretty thin and it goes into a
smaller area, easier. For me it's easy to carry IWB. The little Glock isn't. However, a bit larger fellow may find the Glock supremely comfortable. It IS a bigger cartridge and is a fine reliable shooter.

My favorite 2 carry guns are my S&W 642 and the LCP. LCP is super easy to carry in pocket. I hate shooting it (recoil is worse than the 642) but if I needed it recoil would be the last thing on my mind.

However, my CZ83 has a manual safety which is super easy to swipe and will then fire in SA mode like the Glock. It's super easy to shoot due to it's incredible trigger. As someone said somewhere, almost NO one gets a trigger job on a CZ83.

The grons
August 13, 2009, 10:11 PM
I could carry my CZ 82 on the ankle or shoulder holster, great gun and super accurate. It is a bit wide with the ambidextrous thoumb rests and the saftey, so I bought a PA-63 and ordered flat grips for CCW. Same caliber, 7 oz lighter, thinner, new springs and it shoots good. Even though it bites a bit it shouldn't matter since a CCW you hope will never be used or if so, maybe once in your life so a little thumb bite won't kill

Pyzon
August 15, 2009, 04:35 PM
CZ82 in a Crossbreed Supertuck held up by a "The Beltman" 1.5" horsehide belt and I can forget I'm wearing it. But, all my poor choice holsters feel better when they are hanging on a quality belt. That's a bad place to go cheap, you''ll be sorry forever.

gatman357
August 16, 2009, 09:17 PM
Hi all, new to the boards here and i really appreciate the information found here. I carry a CZ82 in a Blackhawk IWB and love it. It has a good feel and is very accurate. For a while there I thought I was the only one using it as a ccw, good to know I am not alone.

PRM
August 17, 2009, 03:58 AM
My CZ 83 in .380 is a tack driver. Got it last Thanksgiving and have been continually impressed with the gun in all aspects. It has also been flawless in function with all types of ammo. Midway has extra high-cap mags for $39.49 http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct...tNumber=126691 .

Had a little trouble finding a high rise pan-cake style holster - Allen's made a custom leather one for me, Carrying and concealing is also easy. They can be reached at.

Allen1941@bellsouth.net

JeepGeek
August 18, 2009, 01:15 AM
Got a link for that Midway extra-cap mag, that works?

PRM
August 18, 2009, 04:09 AM
Sounds like you have had problems? I would send them back - Midway has always stood behind whatever I bought from them. I ordered three of the high cap mags last Thanksgiving, and what I received were CZ magazines, brand new in the blister packs. All of mine have worked flawlessly.

JeepGeek
August 19, 2009, 12:35 AM
no-

do you have a link, that works, for that mag.

Absolutely no problems with Midway.

PRM
August 19, 2009, 12:56 AM
Try this one

http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/?productNumber=126691

If it does not get you there - go to their web site and follow the links, magazines - by make - CZ - CZ83

Shadow 7D
August 19, 2009, 07:29 PM
Uh isn't that the mag that was originally issued with the firearm, cz-82, and not the reduced capacity Socialist Republik of Kali mag?

Also J&G has the 9 mak mags for less, they work with 380 too, but you may need to adjust the feed lips.

zxcvbob
December 19, 2010, 04:04 PM
seems like Mozambiquing a BG would be a real good way to find yourself in a heap of trouble. Nevermind that he started it, was a foot taller than you, and had a sawed-off shotgun in his hand he was raising in your direction, while coked out of his mind and shouting his intent to kill you, burn your wife, rape your children and eat your dog.

As soon as the DA finds out that you shot him in the head, their next words will be "execution-style murder". And you are deeply fornicated." 'Cause the first 2 shots didn't stop him; he kept coming. Like they just pissed him off or something. I was afraid for my life and the lives of my family", should be a pretty good answer. And if the 3rd shot is quick enough, it will always be true.

Shadow 7D
December 19, 2010, 04:14 PM
HOLY THREAD NECROMANCY
um you raised thread that has been raised 3 times before, didn't you read the dead thread message before posting.

zxcvbob
December 19, 2010, 04:49 PM
Yeah I did. I found this thread using a search before I started another one just like it. I just took the NRA's "Personal Protection in the Home" class yesterday, using my CZ82 that I really hadn't shot much until now. They mostly had us shooting double-taps to COM. (I think what I was shooting technically was a "hammer" rather than a double-tap because I fired the second shot without aiming as soon as the gun came back down.) Last 2 shots on the qualifying target were to the head. Dotting the eyes, so to speak ;)

I was amazed at how easily and quickly the gun shot paper plate sized groups. This may be my carry-gun after all if I can find a lefty holster for it.

harmon rabb
December 19, 2010, 04:57 PM
I've carried my cz-82 a good bit. With a decent holster, it's not hard to hide under a t-shirt.

PabloJ
December 19, 2010, 09:11 PM
Experiences? Opinions? I've got 4 CZ pistols, but none are suitable for ccw. Okay, the cz50 is, but 9x18 is a great round.
You have four CZ pistols which means at least two of them are useless and can be sold or traded. Why eat corn flakes when one can have genuine swiss muesli?
What I'm saying is QUALITY over quantity. What will happen to value of say CZ82 or Makarov when we might have to pay gun registration fees and there will be no ammo buying through mail?

Fastcast
December 20, 2010, 01:36 AM
What will happen to value of say CZ82 or Makarov when we might have to pay gun registration fees and there will be no ammo buying through mail?

I buy 9Mak from my local dealer....He keeps it stocked and has very good prices.

Johnny Guest
December 20, 2010, 03:00 AM
The thread was okay in the beginning, but wasn't worth reviving the first time.

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