hand protection when using Breakfree-CLP?


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Chris17404
July 6, 2006, 10:40 PM
Hi all,

I've been using Breakfree-CLP for a whkle to clean and lubricate both my shotguns and now my new handgun (S&W 5946). Every time I clean a firearm, I always use rubber painter gloves I get at Walmart. I admit they are pretty thin and cheap, but after only 15 or so minutes of cleaning, the rubber gloves start to break down and crack from the CLP. This is usually on my index fiinger. WHat do you guys use for hand protection that won't get eaten up by CLP? Thanks.

Chris

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huntershooter
July 6, 2006, 10:45 PM
Nothing. Bare fingers.

RyanM
July 6, 2006, 11:04 PM
I just use my bare hands. Sometimes I'll even smear it around with my fingers to help scrub off fouling. It's not corrosive or highly toxic or anything.

RNB65
July 6, 2006, 11:14 PM
Bare hands. I wash my hands immediately after I'm done, but I don't thing BF is over harmful. I looked at the BF MSDS and they didn't recommend wearing gloves, just hand washing after use.

brickeyee
July 6, 2006, 11:36 PM
Latex is quickly destroyed by petroleum products.
If you want some protection use nitrile gloves. They are usually blue (but I have seen some green ones).

Logan5
July 7, 2006, 03:11 AM
Nyplex works as well; boxes are available cheap at BJ's/Costco. I have to use them anyway instead of latex, since apparently there's some sort of liability phobia lately about people possibly having latex allergies. I haven't had any gun cleaning solvents eat Nyplex/Nitrile yet, so it may be just the ticket.

Pistol Toter
July 7, 2006, 09:28 AM
I even put it behind my ears, next to Hoppes #9 it drives women wild for me.:what: Sorry guys it's been a bad night and the day is not starting out too good.

bakert
July 7, 2006, 12:43 PM
"even put it behind my ears, next to Hoppes #9 it drives women wild for me".

Pistol toter, dang it, I tried it and my wife made me sleep on the couch!!:D

Pistol Toter
July 7, 2006, 12:53 PM
Yeah Yeah Yeah... I hate that when that happens. But it's the only way I get any sleep if I use G96; see if that works any better for ya. Just like mink musk!!!!!!!!!!;)

XDKingslayer
July 7, 2006, 01:25 PM
I have been using CLP in military and civilian life bare handed for 14 years and I'm :LKSFJ:H:FOSDIJF:LMSN:LKF:ISHF:LK:SKDHF:LJK SDH:FLJHWEF fine...

Texfire
July 7, 2006, 04:38 PM
have to use them anyway instead of latex, since apparently there's some sort of liability phobia lately about people possibly having latex allergies. I haven't had any gun cleaning solvents eat Nyplex/Nitrile yet, so it may be just the ticket.

Actually there are people who do have latex allergies, though it seems fairly rare and most common to those in health care or patients repeatedly exposed to latex gloves. As a result most emegency medical responders have moved to nitrile gloves, which aren't known to trigger an allergic reaction. I didn't care for them at first as I missed the tactile sensativity that the tight fitting latex gloves gave me when taking a pulse. Nitrile gloves should be fine with hydrocarbons, we use them when applying plug and dike to leaking diesel saddle tanks. If you did that with latex gloves they quickly dissolve. I use nitrile when cleaning my firearms to make it easier for me to clean up afterwards.

Tex

Car Knocker
July 7, 2006, 05:25 PM
I've pretty much gone to wearing nitrile gloves when dealing with all chemicals. Use them when dealing with plumbing waste lines also.

silhanek
July 7, 2006, 07:01 PM
For cleaning with CLP, I don't wear gloves. I do have a pair of black rubber gloves I bought from the hardware store that I wear when cleaning surplus guns with mineral spirits.

The key to buying a pair of rubber gloves is to look for the "chemical resistant" on the packaging. I went through 2 other pair of basic dish washing gloves before realizing they have to say chemical resistant.

Soybomb
July 7, 2006, 08:25 PM
Yup just like condoms and petrol based products. I would worry abit about long term exposure to clp if you used it daily, but for my once or twice a month use I'm not terribly concerned and just go glove free.

Chris17404
July 7, 2006, 09:16 PM
Thanks for all the replies, guys. I'll try to find some of those Nyplex/Nitrile gloves.

Chris

Kurush
July 7, 2006, 09:32 PM
I've had breakfree clp on my bare hands for hours at a time and never had a problem. Ballistol on the other hand will make your hands hurt after a while (like dishwashing detergent).

ID_shooting
July 7, 2006, 10:37 PM
"even put it behind my ears, next to Hoppes #9 it drives women wild for me".

Pistol toter, dang it, I tried it and my wife made me sleep on the couch!!

You guys have it all wrong, my wife wears it when she wants to get me in the mood. She says it is like a moth to a flame. :what:

On a serious note, We used it by the gallon, when an M2 started to slow down, just open the dust cover and pour it in till it ran out the bottom, cycle four or five times, the gun was back in action.

I swear I have near bathed in the stuff.

zzzarkt
July 8, 2006, 12:17 AM
I use clear plastic food service gloves. I get them for about $8 / 550 at Sam's club. They work great and solvents etc. don't break them down.

Shipwreck
July 8, 2006, 12:46 AM
Many solvents cause can possibly cause cancer - some even have it on the label. I try to wear gloves whenever I clean my guns. I do it quick enough that I've never had an issue w/ latex gloves.

Nightcrawler
July 8, 2006, 01:42 AM
CLP is great, but it makes my teeth all gritty.

I've never used gloves, but I do wash my hands after I use it. See above.

If you have a cut on you finger though? Yeah, that stuff stings. :uhoh:

hso
July 8, 2006, 10:21 AM
From the Material Safety Data Sheet for Breakfree liquid- Rubber, as needed. This essentially means that they have no requirement for use of gloves, but there are some skin sensitivities to the product and rubber gloves would serve to protect the hands. Remember that Latex is not Rubber. Nitrile, PVC, Polyethylene and Vinyl should all do well.

The Navy's MSDS website (http://p2library.nfesc.navy.mil/msds/commercial.html#B_B) links to Cornel Univeristy's MSDS library for all the CLP product. Here's the link to CLP Liquid if anyone wants to read it. The other CLP products are there as well.
http://msds.ehs.cornell.edu/msds/msdsdod/a111/m55209.htm

GTSteve03
July 8, 2006, 11:12 AM
While I know that Breakfree CLP is supposed to be safe for your skin, I don't like the thought of the other stuff that I'm in the process of cleaning out of my gun getting smeared around on my hand and absorbed through my skin. :barf:

Primers often contain mercury and there's lead deposits and other assorted nasty chemicals leftover from gunpowder residue inside a firearm once it's been through a nice long range session.

That's the kind of stuff I don't want on my skin so I wear the Nitrile gloves (mine are purple) and they work well for me.

TallPine
July 8, 2006, 01:26 PM
I use BF CLP to clean my guns, not my hands :p

How much to you all use anyway? :confused: I've had the same squirt can for several years. Just put a little bit down the barrel and then in a few movign parts - enough usually trickles out to wipe down the outside with a red rag (which is pretty much CLP saturated by now)

It's probably one of the least hazardous things I've gotten on my skin over the years.

Cacique500
July 8, 2006, 02:30 PM
I use these:

http://www1.mscdirect.com/CGI/NNSRIT?PMPXNO=3226064&PMT4NO=9401125

Mike_in_OC
July 8, 2006, 03:24 PM
My wife thinks I use Break Free and an aftershave. All I hear is "whats that smell"

tiberius
July 8, 2006, 05:17 PM
"Remember that Latex is not Rubber."

Then what the heck is it? It comes from rubber trees.

tiberius
July 8, 2006, 05:18 PM
D'oh - Double tap

goblues
July 8, 2006, 05:43 PM
I never had that breakfree do anything to my hands. However the Breakfree in the aerosol for breaking away gun powder BURNS when you get it in your eye. If you hold it too close to the gun, it will bounce right off it. Learned that lesson a couple times.:eek:

entropy
July 8, 2006, 06:08 PM
I have been using CLP in military and civilian life bare handed for 14 years and I'm :LKSFJ:H:FOSDIJF:LMSN:LKF:ISHF:LK:SKDHF:LJK SDH:FLJHWEF fine...

I've been using it longer than that, about thirty years, both military and civilian, and it IG_&(TW{U@HPE+P#(U S| HUI UIBH LI^EDT also hasn't affected me one bit. Besides it adds taste to your Big Mac you are eating at the gun bench because you can't afford the time away from the shop..... :p

kel
July 8, 2006, 06:20 PM
Nitrile gloves. They never wear out.

You do not want to clean guns without gloves. Supposedly the solvents will open up your skin and allow the lead and junk you're cleaning to get into your body. Lead is bad.

sm
July 8, 2006, 06:21 PM
Again I am reminded - and grateful for being raised in the era I was...

Wash your hands before you touch your eyes...

Don't forget your rubbers...

Don't forget your slicker...



This all before I headed out the door at age four to go down the way to see the new puppies a neighbor had - in the rain.

I dunno, applied to a lot of life stuff back then, still does today.

Ala Dan
July 9, 2006, 03:23 AM
I don't use anything too cover thy hands when using Break Free C-L-P~!:D

model 649
July 9, 2006, 02:37 PM
I read the MSDS on it and it seems light on information. Does CLP have a petroleum solvent carrier? If it does, the solvent likely penetrates skin, like most petroleum solvents. According to a good friend's oncologist, petroleum solvents are indicated in approx. 25% of bladder cancers (inhaled as fumes and soaking through the skin, or ingested). Neat stuff, huh? I have read that very little is known or studied about 98% of the chemical compounds we are exposed to. Especially long-term effects. I wonder what the flame retardants in our keyboard's plastic are doing to all of us? I use the gloves and some ventilation when using petroleum products by hand. It's easy enough.
Josh

1911_CQB
July 9, 2006, 09:19 PM
we clean our m-16s/M-4s with breakfree. Bare hands. If its for a class like quals or somethng, I will pack a pair of the blue nitrile gloves. That way it doesnt take me a half hour of hand washing to get the damn smell off my hands.

brickeyee
July 9, 2006, 10:03 PM
"According to a good friend's oncologist, petroleum solvents are indicated in approx. 25% of bladder cancers "


A meaningless number.
The number you want is what percentage of users of product X develop cancer.

Last time I checked about 95% of lung cancers had a smoking link.
About 20% of smokers get lung cancer.

MDs are notoriously bad at statistics. Much of the heavy analysis of medical research is performed by PhDs, not MDs.

FTF
July 9, 2006, 10:48 PM
When my eyes feel 'dry' I usually put a drop or two of CLP in them.

Seriously... it's just like oil I guess. It's my primary cleaner and I've never thought to use "protection" from it :confused:

Hokkmike
July 10, 2006, 03:39 PM
Bakert...where I live we are sponsering a new line of cologne for to attract mountain women.

Hoppes #9 for the first date.

Bacon grease for those morning's after.

Eue d'coffee for intimate evenings

and finally, residue' of gunpowder for after the wedding!

stevelyn
July 10, 2006, 04:39 PM
Hand protection? Break-Free CLP is hand protection.:D

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