looking for a good .22LR pistol


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LRRPS
May 2, 2003, 11:34 AM
[B]Good day gentlemen,

I have the firm intention to buy a .22LR pistol which is reliable and durable. Accuracy is not the primary goal 'coz I'm not into competition.
I know that CZ has built a .22LR pistol which looks and weighs like the 9mm CZ 75.
I wonder if anyone has tried this pistol (.22LR) and what he thinks about it.

Thank you for your comments.
LRRPS.

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Selfdfenz
May 2, 2003, 11:43 AM
You have come to the right place. Try using the search function. Lots of good info.
Also the search function on the old "The Firing Line" still works and is another good place for info.
http://www.rimfirecentral.com/mainpage.shtml
and the CZ forum is a winner too.

The Kadet is a dandy from all reports.
CZ is a fine Company and I like the CZ's I own. Why not consider getting a 75B and a Kadet kit. More $ but like having 2 guns.

I have a 22/45 with an Ultradot 30 mm. It's a wonder! And has a lower entry price than the Kadet I think. Pistol was 199, rings about 40$ and the scope was about 100$ IIRC or about what you might pay for a NIB unscoped Kadet but I think a bit less.
Can't go wrong with a Kadet however.

Good luck and take care.

meathammer
May 2, 2003, 11:52 AM
Like Selfdfenz, I too have a Ruger 22/45.
I like it. You can't go wrong for the money. (Around $200 usually.) Mine has been accurate and 100% reliable so far, with about 500 rds. through it.

NEtracker
May 2, 2003, 12:21 PM
In MA, we can only get S&W (semi & rev), Walther (p22), or Ruger (revolvers only, no semis) for .22 cal.
So, I have a Walther P22 3.42" barrel, price $239 (5" is $279).
I just used it in an NRA instructors course.

AZ Jeff
May 2, 2003, 04:01 PM
I would say the Ruger .22 auto series (Mark I, Mark II, and .22/45) are probably the best buy in the .22LR pistol market. They are not my favorite pistol, but I keep owning one (I have bought/sold several) because of the following:
1. low cost
2. decent sights/sight radius
3. DURABLE IN THE EXTREME (I don't think you can wear one out)
4. reliable with most brands of ammo. (My current .22/45 eats ANYTHING, and I have about 1000 rds thru it.)
5. decently accurate (although I own more accurate .22's)

All in all, it's hard to find a more durable/reliable pistol for the price

Watch-Six
May 2, 2003, 05:31 PM
I would consider a Browning Buckmark or Ruger Mark II. They are both excellent .22s. Watch-Six

tech
May 2, 2003, 05:44 PM
I also recomend the Ruger 22/45. I've had one for about a 18 months and have about 12k rounds through it. It runs great.

Mike

Skunkabilly
May 2, 2003, 06:23 PM
I'm all for conversion kits even if they cost you a little more.

Sprout
May 2, 2003, 06:33 PM
I really love my Kadet conversion kit! I was hitting the 5" steel plate at 50 yards with surprising regularity yesterday (7 out of 10) using cheap Federal Bulk Pack .22, and I'm not the best shot by any means. I'm sure the gun is capable of more than that, but I'm not ... yet :D

Great gun.

Matt Sutton
May 2, 2003, 06:42 PM
I have a Ruger MKII 5" bull, and a Beretta Neos 4.5 Stainless. I put Millett sights on the Ruger, and a BSA dot on the Neos. They are the funnest guns I own. I wouldn't say one is better than the other. I shoot and enjoy both.

I have also awned a Buckmark Micro, but ended up trading it. It was an OK gun, but it only came with one magazine and the back takedown screw worked itself loose several times. I think that the Buckmark had the best factory sights of the three.

My next .22 pistol will hopefully be one of these:
http://www.eaacorp.com/firearms/rifles/targetrifles/izh35/images/izh35.jpg

Sactown
May 3, 2003, 02:50 AM
IZH-35M is a good one. Here in Cali, they're only for law enforcement because EAA won't submit to CalDOJ's extortion..err testing. I need to find a someone willing to sell a used one in Kali.

WonderNine
May 3, 2003, 04:11 AM
My favorite .22lr autopistol of all time is my father's stainless 6 & 3/4" Ruger MKII with firesights. That thing is awesome!!!!

aircarver
May 3, 2003, 12:03 PM
I used to shoot 'Industrial League .22 Pistol' competitions. I started with a Ruger, moved up to a High Standard, and ended up at a S&W 41 (The finest .22 target pistol, even now IMHO) The Ruger is a best buy, robust and accurate, but the trigger mechanism did not lend itself to regular gunsmithing techniques to get it up to 'target grade'. My brother, who shoots in bowling pin shoots (.22 category) with a Ruger suggests that this has been solved. Drop a Volquartson trigger assembly in your ruger and you have it all... Robust, accurate.... AND a good trigger ..... :)

LRRPS
May 3, 2003, 01:54 PM
Hi all,

Been to my favorite gunshop this morning and checked all the .22LR pistols they carry.
I liked the look of the CZ Kadet and was told that it's a very reliable gun. So I went home with it, disassembled it, cleaned the bore and rushed to the shooting range.
I shot a couple hundreds of rounds, both standard and high speed ammo.
The slide locked itself rearwards at the last round of the magazine as it should but I experienced a few FTF due to rounds that didn't chamber, in fact the slide closed on an empty chamber once in a while.
Did anyone experience the same failure?
Is it because the gun is new and needs to be broken in?

Any comment is greatly appreciated.

LRRPS.

NJ3
May 3, 2003, 06:09 PM
I have a Smith and Wesson 422, it has been a great little pistol. Both reliable and accurate.

The only problem is S&W doesn't make them anymore. But you can usually find them on Gunbroker (http://www.gunbroker.com/) for under $250.

Darrin
May 3, 2003, 08:09 PM
Guess I'm a little late to vote for the P22, huh? :uhoh:

Sprout
May 3, 2003, 09:25 PM
My kit did that during about the first 200 rounds. It came in the box covered with a really greasy oil, which may have caused some problems too. I took it home, cleaned it really well, and it hasn't done it since. <knock on wood>

I think that you will really like it.

Bowlcut
May 3, 2003, 09:27 PM
Poor Darrin and his "little gun" :D.

If you want just fun and something that looks uber sweet. The P22 is right there. cool little gun, get a full assortment of goodies in the box(2 mags, 2 backstraps, adjustable sights, tatical rail) and it looks uber....did i say that enough?

But for my every day plinker I think a 22/45 might be a better choice. Mount a red dot on it or the such, and just go play. It will probaly be more accurate than me any day of the week, and its a well designed gun. Hardest part of it all is the reasemebly if you take it apart.

Ive never head a cz in .22 but for what everyone says about cz....i cant immagine its a bad choice

Selfdfenz
May 4, 2003, 12:23 AM
LRRPS
Sprout and others will be able to give you a better idea of how many rounds it takes to get a Kadet to settle in but it's been my experience that some function fine from the get-go and some take a few hundred rounds. The oil CZ uses to pack their new guns in is tacky and could be an issues as some have suggested.

I don't know if any here will agree but ammo has more to do with how the pistol functions than the make and design.
That is true of new and old guns.

Don't be disappointed till you have tried several brands of ammo. And a good number of rounds. I have had genearlly good results with the HP Federal Bulk Packs at WalMart for plinking ammo. Cheap, pretty accuarte and not too greasy.
Remington Thunderbolts would not be my first choice. Erratic QC.

Keep us posted. I've been thinking about a Kadet kit also.

S-

LRRPS
May 4, 2003, 03:23 AM
Selfdfenz,

I mostly fired HP ammo in Federal Bulk Packs and had that problem, it started right after the first shot, the second round didn't chamber then the gun cycled normally for 19 magazine loads 'till I was about to leave, then again a few rounds didn't chamber.
I hope it's just because the gun is new 'coz I trust CZ for the quality of their firearms.

Anyway, thanks for all the inputs and have a nice sunday.

LRRPS.

Selfdfenz
May 4, 2003, 10:14 AM
Just in case you are still following the thread you might want to poke around at thsi site and see if some of the peps there can give you a helpful hit or too. I hope I have the links right.
general forum
http://pub105.ezboard.com/bczechpistols82792

Kadet part of the above
http://pub105.ezboard.com/fczechpistols82792frm45

S-

Tropical Z
May 4, 2003, 12:34 PM
Definitely consider a Beretta Neos.Nice gun.:cool:

LRRPS
May 4, 2003, 01:14 PM
Selfdfenz,

Thanks a lot for your last post, the CZ site is really the one to go.
Found lots of helpful information, i would recommend it to any CZKadet owners.

LRRPS.

Ala Dan
May 5, 2003, 12:16 AM
Then try to locate a LNIB .22 LR Colt Match Target
Woodsman! Quite pricey; but worth every penny.:uhoh:

Best Wishes,
Ala Dan, N.R.A. Life Member

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