Does anyone have any ideas or thoughts about a M91 russian mosin nagant bolt action rifle? Is it any good what is the going rate for it, does it performe well?
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July 10, 2006, 02:09 AM
got one...great medium caliber rifle. Not a tack driver, but fair. I imagine it would be great with deer sized game (not allowed rifle hunting in Ia.). Bought mine for 100 bucks at Dunhams Sports.
July 10, 2006, 02:32 AM
You mean the true M-91's? They're getting harder to come by, but you can frequently find them tagged as 91/30's because most people can't tell the difference. There are two main types of M-91's. The first are Czarist era WWI rifles, the second Finnish remakes using recycled receivers. The Finns come in a variety of subtypes some of which are HIGHLY desired by collectors. Mostly you'll find the less collectable 1940's production Finns. The *intact* Czarist M-91's are getting pretty rare and are generally undervalued. There used to be a lot of US-made M-91's floating around but over the century most seem to have been hacked and slashed. Intact, mint examples can command a premium.
July 10, 2006, 04:25 AM
As with most of the Mosin series, accuracy depends upon the individual rifle. If it's headspaced properly and reasonably clean, it will operate every time for another hundred years.
Surplus rifles vary widely in price based on a number of factors- I presume you're talking about an individual rifle? Sight unseen, it's difficult to price a surplus rifle, but if it's in good condition (little or no rust damage and most of the original bluing- and the wood isn't all torn up) and in the original configuration it will be worth a couple hundred dollars. In better condition (no rust ever, fully intact bluing, fully intact wood, good bore) it could command three to four hundred, just pulling some numbers out of my rear.
I personally dropped $100 without hesitation on a heavily sporterized Remington M91, and after putting a 2x scout scope on it, the rifle has so far yielded two separate MOA three-shot groups (two different ammo brands, from bench). That rifle is now without price to me, for historical and practical reasons.
July 10, 2006, 09:20 AM
Mosin Nagant rifles are an excellent bargain. As Cosmoline mentioned, M91's are getting fewer and farther between, but there are many other models. If you are looking for and excellent inexpensive 'out of the box' deer rifle, the M38 is a great choice. 20" barrel, no bayonet to remove and have the lugs sticking out. The M44 is also short, less $$$, and that bayonet does come off easily. The M91/30 is a bit longer, but usually more accurate, and are still inexpensive. The M91/59, which is a 'carbinized' M91/30 done by the Russian arsenals after WWII, is the best of both worlds. Handy carbine length, and the inherent accuracy of the M91/30's heavier barrel. The 91/59's were also the 'pick of the litter' the arsenals sifted through the 91/30's and picked the best for 91/59's.
Many non-pemanantly altering options are available for these rifles. Drop-in aftermarket synthetic stocks, (hang on to that issue stock!) 'scout' scope mounts that do not require drilling and tapping or changing the bolt handle, some shooters like to add a slip-on reciol pad to their Mosin (I recommend the Limb Saver small slip-on) , There is even a drop in adjustable trigger for them.
Surplus ammo for these rifles (Cal. 7.62x54R) is widely available and inexpensive. Hunting ammo is also available, and while much more expensive than the FMJ surplus, is still less than comparable hunting ammo for calbers such as .30-06, .308 Win. , which also happen to be the cartridges that it closely resembles ballistically.
Here is a link to an article written by a friend, about hunting bear with his Chinese-made Type 53 carbine, a Chinese version of the M44. Ron has graciously allowed it to be posted on www.russian-mosin-nagant.com , as has BobW, owner of RMNP. I hope Oleg doesn't mind the link here.