Lever gunners; Ammo carry?


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VeT|Us
July 10, 2006, 05:30 PM
Calling out to all levergunners:

In a situation where you need your rifle (make up your own scenario),
how do you carry your ammo?
I don't see any easy way to carry single cartridges, not in any sufficient amount anyway. I've thought about an M16-magpouch, that should hold some rounds of leverfood, but if that pouch is open, and you hit the ground.. no more ammo for you.

Any smart and effective way to carry ammo, allowing for fast reloads?

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Andrew S
July 10, 2006, 05:40 PM
Why not just a simple bandoleer? Fill each pouch with the amount of rounds your rifle will hold and you will know exactly how many reloads you have. Most of them have buttons that snap closed.

ArmedBear
July 10, 2006, 05:44 PM
The old fashioned ways:

Bandolier or belt. Or both.

http://aspartametruth.com/pics/pancho/villa05a.jpg

Vern Humphrey
July 10, 2006, 05:44 PM
Why do you need a fast reload with a lever gun? You know the old saying, "One shot meat, two shots maybe, three shots nothin'." With seven rounds in my .30-30, any deer who hangs around after the last one is ejected is probably too brain-damaged to eat.

I often go out without a reload when I take a .30-30 -- seven is enough. Sometimes I may slip a couple of spare rounds in a pocket, though.

_N4Z_
July 10, 2006, 05:47 PM
I have one of those sock thingy's that slips over the stock for my Marlin336 30/30. It holds 9 rounds I think. Not used it much though.

Also have the same thing for my HD shotgun and it stays on all the time. It holds 5.

ArmedBear
July 10, 2006, 05:48 PM
Get a Browning BLR and just carry extra magazines.:p

Fosbery
July 10, 2006, 06:01 PM
Take:

One leather belt
One length of foam plumbing insulation

Cut the foam insulation into a suitable length and cover the front of your belt in the stuff. Now, simply put the cartridges into the foam bullet-first. They hold in nice and secure and are presented to you nicely, really easy for quick reloads.

http://img467.imageshack.us/img467/5158/1500belt3mb.jpg

:D

Rexrider
July 10, 2006, 06:01 PM
I have a 1894 in .357 mag.

9+1 loaded, 10 on the buttstock, 24 on the belt gives me a total of 44 rds of .357 mag.

If that ain't enough then I grabbed the wrong rifle. :scrutiny:

VeT|Us
July 10, 2006, 06:04 PM
Any place particular you bought those ammo carriers?

Rexrider
July 10, 2006, 06:16 PM
Any place particular you bought those ammo carriers?

The folding carriers I bought from a catalog 15 + years ago. The brand is Kolpin. The buttstock carrier I bought at a gunshow last year. No brand name, just generic. It was originally a rilfe ammo carrier but I cut the loops down to make it easier to pull out the .357 rounds.

pcf
July 10, 2006, 06:27 PM
I'm partial to an elastic butt cuff:
-holds 9 rounds
-easy to reload from
-convenient
-unlike leather it doesn't turn brass green and nasty
-protects the buttstock

mustanger98
July 10, 2006, 06:50 PM
My take on this... 40rd cartridge belt. That way I have 9 +1 in the .357mag levergun, 6rds in my S&W if I'm carrying it, and 40rds on the belt. And a Bowie knife. But that's a trailrider's load-out according to me. If I'm deer hunting close to home with a .357 levergun that holds 10rds, I'm liable to just carry the rifle (and a Buck 110 for the knife) and don't worry about extras.

My .30-30's another story since it only holds 7 +1. I like to have a few extras on my belt. I like a slide with 5-10 loops. I like 'em kept quiet, but readily accessible.

MechAg94
July 10, 2006, 07:27 PM
Anyone seen a bandolier with cartridge loops for 45/70 or 44 mag? I guess a shotgun bandolier might substitute. I'll have to look. Maybe I'll take a couple loose rounds with me next time I go to a show (or spent cartridges).

I like the belt pouch for .357. I'll have to look for those.

Vairochana
July 10, 2006, 08:01 PM
.303 stripper clips in the pocket, not as fast as a belt but a lot quieter than a pocket full of loose rounds

nipprdog
July 10, 2006, 08:22 PM
.303 stripper clips in the pocket, not as fast as a belt but a lot quieter than a pocket full of loose rounds


What lever gun do you have that shoots .303?

bigger jon
July 10, 2006, 11:52 PM
I had a great uncle we lost in the 70`s he was a avid hunter,he would allways carry 1 round of 30/30 in his pocket. in those days you could leave a rifle leaning on a wall behind a door,and none of us kids would touch it, he allways had a gun like that some where in the house,and he allways had a round in his pocket. The day we lost my uncle they found a 30/30 in his pocket.

mustanger98
July 11, 2006, 12:04 AM
bigger jon, you just reminded me of one of my neighbors... this guy's in his 50's- US Air Force vet from California- and he keeps a shotgun handy and keeps a few rounds of low brass 12guage in his pocket.

sm
July 11, 2006, 12:06 AM
1. Federal 30-30 ammo for instance comes in a red ammo carrier that will fit onto a belt. Save to re-use.

2. leather ammo butt cuffs , check Galco and other Cowboy Shooting Sports supply houses.

3. Leather Ammo carriers, Heck I had one from LLBean back when the earth was flat. Couple of years ago I bought one from Lennyjoe here on THR he had for sale...this one has a belt loop and zippers shut.

4. Cowboy action shooters again, Leather ammo carriers that not only fit onto belt - also have a paddle [think paddle holster]. In a hurry, just slip paddle between pants and body.

I like this for shotshells too, like 5 rds of slugs while bird hunting...be if for 'varmits' to and fro the field, to bird season at same time deer season is on.

One of our Cowboy Shooters will have links to the leather accessories and these are well made, proven, and timeless.

Steve

carebear
July 11, 2006, 12:07 AM
nipperdog,

Lots of rounds have the same (or close enough) head size to work on stripper clips for other ammo.

IIRC you can do a similar trick for 38/357 on a .223 clip. But I may be misremembering.

Vairochana
July 11, 2006, 02:11 AM
nipprdog;
My levers are both 30-30- .303 is slightly larger but they still fit in the clips, just not as snug.

However now you have me thinking evil modification thoughts-levergun rechambered/barrelled for 180gr .303 -the Ultimate Jungle Carbine
urh urh urh!:uhoh:

Kurt
July 11, 2006, 02:25 AM
I have been using these to carry non-magazine held 30-caliber rounds for many years. They are the best I've found for the purpose.

They are very well made, treat your ammo well and lay extremely flat on a belt.

http://www.eagleindustries.com/mainprod.asp?scv=0

Kurt
July 11, 2006, 02:28 AM
I have been using these to carry non-magazine 30-caliber rounds for many years. They are the best I've found for the purpose.

They are very well made, treat your ammo well and lay extremely flat on a belt.

Go here under "pouches" and select "belt-ammo" and look at "FOLDABLE AMMO POUCH .308 CAL"

http://www.eagleindustries.com/mainprod.asp?scv=0

dodge
July 11, 2006, 07:52 AM
I believe that Cabela's carry a canvas belt made to fit the 45/70 don't have my catalog with me so I can't tell you how many it holds.

Z_Infidel
July 11, 2006, 09:57 AM
I use a butt cuff on my .30-30. If it was just a hunting rifle I probably wouldn't need it, but I use it as a general purpose rifle and I shoot it a lot so the butt cuff is very convenient.

mio
July 11, 2006, 10:12 AM
check your local laws before taking the advice of sm and carrying 5rds of slugs during bird season. in michigan slug, buckshot or cut-shells during bird season will get you nothing but fines and possibly jail time.

sm
July 11, 2006, 12:27 PM
Yes, I stated if seasons are in session at the same time.
Naturally, regulations vary from place to place, such as public lands.

Then again I mostly use private property. Then again concealed is concealed, as I and others do concern ourselves getting to and fro.

That is why 28 ga slugs are handy and need to be more readily available to folks. ;)

Like flyfishing, a Lightweight Commander with a 7 round leader with a hardball fly is nice in the event of land sharks while hiking into and out of areas, or around farm ponds.

200 gr HG 68 "casts" real nice too. ;)

Lever Guns on a skeet field too...

Yep, remote private clay fields, Lever guns in both trap houses, slugs on shooters belts, besides the sidearms.

We are not likely to have trouble actually be difficult to find us...

...still trouble has found folks out shooting and taken guns and vehicles.

Just like hunters being caught out by / running into illegal drug folks. Hate groups against hunters, or being followed from a diner in a small town because it is evident you went hunting.
Ducks being picked, deer /turkey being checked, illegal ears at the taxidermist...

Might be a rabid dog coming after hunting pup, or the poachers being run upon taking deer out of season.

I want a bit more than birdshot, or a flyrod. If at gun point they take the lever action, shotgun or flyrod, and I am in fear of my life...concealed is concealed.

I believe Hollywood Shootout involved stolen cars and guns from lone shooters in remote areas for one example.

Not all regulations are there to protect folks - no matter what the Gubmint 'says' - they are not their to help.

Moral Law , Laws of Survival, and Common Sense - trumps many "enacted" laws.

NOT advocating other than one thinking for themselves and being comfortable with decisions.

I tend to think of the box myself.


3am, too much coffee en route to duck hunt. Pull way over on a stretch of road and 4 guys have to tinkle. Lone lightbulb on a barn out yonder in a field...3 vehicles appear and fast - having driven to their location with headlights off...

All shotguns in the trunk of vehicle, not a loaded gun on a person, one Ruger .22 under the seat, in holster, and not a round chambered.

Come to find out, these folks did not work on that farm, in fact that barn was abandoned...due to health and all, owner did not know someone was sneaking in and had been using it...

I was young, I was in the truck following the folks up ahead. Good thing we showed up...it could have gone bad quick. I was around 15 and carrying concealed, how raised, what we did. My job was to stay behind rear of our truck..., driver had cut lights and rolled up real quiet like, lever action in hand, the other adult with a shotgun loaded with slugs...situation handled...later we called owner of property and he called Sheriff's office. Not country boys, not dressed or speaking as we do here, acting real funny...

I gots my reasons for what I do...one is always welcome to agree to disagree.


Think like a thief - and be better prepared.

Dr.Rob
July 11, 2006, 01:08 PM
6 rds on a leather slide. I used the Federal plastic ones (that came with the box of ammo) briefly but they don't hold up on the belt, they work fine inside a pocket.

ChristopherG
July 11, 2006, 02:02 PM
I'm fond of the elastic buttcuff. It's cheap, it stays in place (if you put something like a small strip of foam insulation between it and the butt to give it some purchase), and it's a legal way to carry a limited ammount of ammunition very handily with the gun when it's in my truck or trunk. A long gun in the vehicle can't be loaded in my state, but there's no quicker way to get gun and ammo together (for a tube-fed lever) than to pull them off the gun itself.

That'll hold nine rounds; if I need more'n that, there's a boxfull in the glove de-partment.

steveracer
July 11, 2006, 03:06 PM
Holds nine rounds really easy and quiet.
Also, Bianchi Speed Strips. Hold six each, and work in the trapper.

ARGarrison
July 11, 2006, 03:20 PM
Cabela's 2006 Shooting catalog, has .38 and .45 cal leather Bandeleros from Maker. Doesn't give number of cartridges, but looks like atleast fifty or so.

They have Canvas Prairie Belts that hold 44 rounds in both .45 (.45-70, .30-40 Krag, .45 Colt, or .44-40) and .38 (.30-40 Krag, 300 and .303 Savage, .35 Rem, .38-55 Win, .303 Brit, 7.7 Jap, .30-06 Govt, .30/30 Win and .32 Win SPL). Forager's Belt with 34 Rifle /Pistol loops as well as six shotgun loops, as well as a shotgun only belt with 25 shells

They also have a Triple K brand leather Bandolero in .45 holding 50rds, 12ga holding 50 rds, or combo holding 24 rds each of 12ga and .45.

Also have nylon belts hold 20 rds. Nylon bullet bands holding 9 rds on the stock. As well as an assortment of nylon cartridge carrier belt slides holding 10 to 20 rds.

Just got the big limited fall edition 2006 catalog.

nipprdog
July 11, 2006, 05:34 PM
nipperdog,
Lots of rounds have the same (or close enough) head size to work on stripper clips for other ammo.

learned something new, thanks.

just realized that 357 rounds will also fit nicely on SKS stripper clips.

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