People you wouldn't expect to find at the range


Nathaniel Firethorn
May 2, 2003, 03:23 PM
Yesterday night, I saw a fellow wearing an "MIT Alumni Week" tee shirt.

Now, I may be biased, but I wouldn't expect to see too many geek-school grads at the range. (As a recovering Ivy League :rolleyes: grad, I can say stuff like that.)

What sort of folks have you seen shooting that you wouldn't have expected?

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May 2, 2003, 03:27 PM
I see lots of folks that spent all their money on guns and ammo and buy their t-shirts at the bargrain store :)

May 2, 2003, 03:30 PM
You got "geeks" out here too!

After all, add in reloading, bullet making and etc, and it do get a bit technical, don't it?

May 2, 2003, 03:32 PM
I was at a range the local indoor range on my lunch break a few weeks ago and a couple walked in together. The female was wearing a buisness suite (nice skirt and coat) and they guy was in a formal suit as well.

They came in there with what looked like a piece of carry on luggage converted into a rolling range bag.

I never did see what they were shooting, but it was odd to see suits on the firing line.

May 2, 2003, 03:42 PM
There are more geeky types into guns than you would think. After all, nerds like stuff that's technical and cool.

Guns are technical and cool.

Therefore we like them.:D

I don't think that there's really any sort of person that I wouldn't expect to find at the range. Maybe a big part of that comes from having been part of a college rifle/pistol club where we had a huge cross section of not only genders and backgrounds, but nationalities as well. :cool:

Heck, even Tom Diaz owns handguns.:scrutiny:

May 2, 2003, 03:47 PM
People often looked surprised to see me on the range, or in the gun store - until recently, hair past my shoulders (cut for various reasons not of my own liking nor choosing), usually in a Kiss T-shirt, or one of various other bands (My Kiss shirt collection is my largest, and favorite), jeans - I look like a hippy, more or less. No one expects me to vote Republican, either, but I do, and I smile when I do it :D .

May 2, 2003, 03:51 PM
Back in the day, I worked as a paramedic for a private ambulance company. This was back in the days before political correctness and lawyers didn't totally dominate every aspect of our lives. About six of us at that company became obsessed with bowling pin shooting, but the local match was held on an evening when we were all working. No problem, we went to the field supervisor and asked if he could arrange it so we could be in that part of town and be out of service for about a half hour. So, if you had been at the range, you would have seen an ambulance pull in the parking lot, two uniformed paramedics get out of the ambulance carrying range bags, we go in and shoot. We drive away as another ambulance pulls up and the whole senario is repeated two more times.

You also might be hanging out at a local gun store, see two paramedics walk into the store pushing their gurney. They purchase a rifle, place the rifle on the gurney and cover with a blanket and leave.

May 2, 2003, 03:54 PM
Before my daughter got married she used to get into my safe, get out some guns and away to the range she would go. At that time she was in her 20's. She already had her Texas CHL.
She would really get some looks when she went to dragging out my Ruger SRH .44 mag out of her range bag. Some how a young nice looking woman isn't supposed to shoot large caliber guns. She enjoys shooting the larger calibers, but usually carries a Taurus model 85.

Jim Hall

May 2, 2003, 04:05 PM
i'm a geek. i'm also a young female. i've gotten some strange looks from others (all males, sorry). there was one guy who seemed convinced i was going to drop my P90. he just kept checking to see what i was doing. never said a word to me. i should have turned and done this :neener:


El Tejon
May 2, 2003, 04:08 PM
444, LOL, I need lube--stat!

pd, what do you mean "geeks" don't like guns?!?! [El Tejon looking out windown--ouch, the sun, the sun] My office is right across the river from the Land of the Black & Gold Slide Rule--a hotbed of gun dorks.

What better people to know if you have a problem gun than engineers, 'puter types, or chemistry majors.:D

May 2, 2003, 04:22 PM
I'm with Aahzz, with my long hair I get some funny looks at the range. Most people assume I'm some kind of Hippy fruitcake, when actually I'm a gun owning Metalhead. I guess I need to wear leather more often.:D

Nathaniel Firethorn
May 2, 2003, 04:27 PM
I hope we can leave the computer types out of Failures To Do The Right Thing! :o

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P.S. To prove your techliness, what's the difference between a sparse array and a systolic array? :evil:

May 2, 2003, 04:29 PM
Knowing the 130+ members of the local gun club, I know we have vast diversification of people. From students, retired, Dr's, lawyers, judges, college professers, blue collar, CEO's, self-employed, disabled, you name it, we probably have them. And all in little 'ol S/E Kansas.
Come on down sometime, and we'll go bust some caps!

May 2, 2003, 04:32 PM
Yeah what Justin said; the indoor range I used to manage was across the highway from Intel's main plant in Santa Clara, CA, and those guys were over alot.

We had informal groups of enginners and programmers from pretty much every tech biz in Silly Valley come in. Propellor heads like cool gadgets; guns are cool gadgets.

We'd have qeeks from Amdahl come in and tack up IBM promo material to their targets.

When Linux World was in town we'd be packed with penguin logo'd guys three deep.

Oh yeah and when AMD had Japanese engineers in town we were a regular stop on the tour.

May 2, 2003, 04:35 PM
I saw a fat naked guy practicing drawing a NAA mini-revolver that was duct-taped to his belly.

May 2, 2003, 04:46 PM

Never mind.

I need bleach for my brain now.

May 2, 2003, 04:49 PM
Sparse Array - Array implemented in software that is expected to contain mostly empty elements

Systolic Array - An array of processors, each recieves data from one neighbor, processes such data, then passes the data on to the neighbor opposite the one data was recieved from.

Also, a characteristic of hackers (which also extends to non-hacker geeks) is to enjoy individual sports, such as shooting, archery, etc...

Nathaniel Firethorn
May 2, 2003, 05:02 PM
OK, now I gotta look up "synoptic"... believe it or not, I saw that word one minute before!

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May 2, 2003, 05:10 PM
MIT has a rather good pistol team...

May 2, 2003, 06:34 PM
You would be amazed at the child-like joy expressed on the faces of gang banger type dudes that come in to shoot without having to run like hell after they empty their mag.

Greg L
May 2, 2003, 06:40 PM
I would be more surprised to see a sociology type at the range than an engineer/geek. Most engineers have an appreciation of fine machinery and how it all works.


May 2, 2003, 07:02 PM
The 3 biggest geeks at work are now goign to the range together.... Darrin, Rod, and I. We show up about once a week to the free range and shoot anything and everything. People sometimes wonder why geeks like guns....its that whole CounterStrike connection i think :)

May 2, 2003, 07:37 PM
Gang bangers. Or at least people who look like them. Hmm, what exactly do they look like? I feel safe with -- excess gold chains (and no leisure suit), gold capped teeth, baggy Raiders jackets, baggy shorts (undies showing), $150 basketball shoes, tattoos of dead homie's names, holding the gun sideways, ghetto idioms I cannot understand, and a perma-glare attitude.

Did I miss anything?

And why aren't they practicing at home...

May 2, 2003, 07:38 PM
geeezze Let me see now thats 2 Lawyers , a couple of programers , and a GYN/OYB. I guess I am the only normal person in the bunch and I Have a Degree iN NDT .

May 2, 2003, 07:43 PM
Penforhire, you forgot the do rag with a cap over top of it, on sideways.

May 2, 2003, 07:48 PM
Yeah, and they'll have their pistol in one hand and their "gun" in the other.;)

May 2, 2003, 07:51 PM
Usually 2/3 of my classes are IT guys, engineers and a few doctors.

As for sociologists, one of my girls I taught to shoot is a sociology major. I was hesitant to tell her what I did that morning before we had boba, but she was really interested in shooting. Now she's gonna buy a handgun when she moves off campus the end of this year.

I was a criminology major, not far from sociology.

May 2, 2003, 07:59 PM
Just a little FYI for those who didn't know:

Harry M. Pope, probably the most famous rifle barrel maker and a national shooting champion who used his own guns. - Was an MIT Grad.;)

His gunbarrels are still considerd the best ever made.

May 2, 2003, 08:14 PM
I saw a fat naked guy practicing drawing a NAA mini-revolver that was duct-taped to his belly.
1/4 Bore-

Never mind.

I need bleach for my brain now.

Look at this thread ( (Get the bleach ready!) :o :uhoh:
:D :D

May 3, 2003, 12:51 AM





Actually it's a valid thread/question...

That I hope never to have to answer.

Though of course, if I had Brad Pitts body I wouldn't mind being nekkid.

As it is...

May 4, 2003, 02:55 AM
I think what drives the anti's nuts is WE don't fit any stereotypical profiles. Gender, age, occupation, education, ...etc.

Numerous times I have seen people shocked.

May 4, 2003, 02:59 AM
I'm a network engineer and most of my friends are techies and we're all shooters.

May 4, 2003, 03:30 AM
Hmm..."People you wouldn't expect to find at the range"...

I'd say myself. :rolleyes:

First time I went to the range, I was wanting to try out a Beretta but was unable to due to the fact I was 19 at the time. Anyway, the clerk says, "Well, you're over 18, so you can rent a rifle..."

"Okay...what calibers do you have?" -Me

".22, .223, .243... 30-30, .308..." -Clerk

".308 sounds good to me" -Me, choosing a caliber based on my dorm room number, of all things

He proceeds to give me an M1-A, a 20-rd mag, 40 rounds, and two targets. My arms full of these wonderful appointments, I stumble onto the line. I load the magazine, pop it in, chamber the first round, and...
About eight or nine people behind me let off the worst language I've heard in a while, asking "What the :cuss: are you firing?!?" and I was just grinning as I fired off the remaining rounds, reloaded, and emptied another 20 in about 45 seconds. Needless to say, it was a religious experience for me.

That was a week ago. I'm going again tomorrow :D

May 4, 2003, 04:10 AM
I'm mostly surprised at the amount of asians at the gun ranges.

I'm an EE student and I can tell you that a lot of students are interested in shooting guns.

but wanting to do and actually doing are very different things. Guns are an expensive hobby...

May 4, 2003, 07:36 AM

I totally understand what you are saying....I'm blonde, petite and when I walk into the range, I get looks of either total respect or total disbelief!! I love the looks on their faces (sorry guys) when they see that I KNOW what I'm doing and then offer to let me try out their weapons!! Sweet!


May 4, 2003, 08:36 AM
.. WE don't fit any stereotypical profiles ...

That is so true! I shoot with the 'Academic Shooting Club' at my university (actually, I'm the president :D), and we are a really diverse bunch. We have student and faculty members from all the uni departments, from computer science to theology. Members range from home guard sargeants to pacifists(!), from lefty socialists(!,again) to conservatives and liberterian-like minded folks. At the local and national competitions bluecollars and professionals alike meet and compete amicably. We are all joined by the love of shooting! Actually, it's nice in a kinda hippie, kumbaya sorta way :)

May 4, 2003, 09:26 AM
The only time I've been surprised by anyone at the range was a recent trip to the NRA HQ range. There was this very petite, very cute female cop practicing with her handgun in various shooting positions (kneeling, prone, standing, etc). Except for the badge and the serious demneanor about her, you wouldn't know she was a cop. Put her in street clothes and on the street and I'm sure she'd pass for a high school student.


May 4, 2003, 10:05 AM
Heck, my priest is an avid hunter, target shooter, gun collector. I sure would like to get one of our nuns to get the same interest. Imagine that combination on the firing line! Hey keyhole, where at in S/E Kansas - I am nearby!

carp killer
May 4, 2003, 11:29 AM
The people I'm most shocked to see are the jerks that say "What do you need one of those black rifles for?" :fire: :fire: :fire:

May 4, 2003, 11:53 AM

May 4, 2003, 10:24 PM
I am taking programming at brown college, almost everyone including the teachers are gun enthusiasts. Our teacher even announced in front of class when gov Pawlenty signed Minnesota's ccw into law, and everyone cheered. We talk about guns all the time, and were the stereotypical geek squad. :cool: :D :neener: :)

May 5, 2003, 08:33 AM
Hi, I'm Darrin, and I'm a telecommunications geek. Please, complain one more time about your phone not working. Really, I don't mind. After all, you just plug it in and it works, right? It's just a telephone.

:fire: *BANG* *BANG* *BANG* *BANG* *BANG* *BANG* *BANG* *BANG* *BANG* *BANG* *BANG* *BANG* *BANG* *BANG* *BANG* *click* *click* *click* :D

May 5, 2003, 10:52 PM
Bowlcut, where's there a free range around Nashville?

May 5, 2003, 11:15 PM
On the whole, engineers are a politically conservative bunch.

The gun club at the defense contractor where I work is the largest employees club.

We used to have a division a couple of counties over that was across the street from an indoor range. The gun club members would go across the street and shoot during lunch.

May 5, 2003, 11:18 PM
jade - when I first read your post, I thought that the guy might be staring at you because you had an FN P90 - that would be something to see. After realizing you meant the Ruger (right?), could it have been that the guy just thought you were cute? I'm always pleased to see females, especially those near my age, at the range. I'd love to meet a future gf at the range, I'm sure it'd be a match made in nirvana :D

May 5, 2003, 11:22 PM
Oh yeah, to answer the question that the thread is asking - I usually don't see many people around my age at the range around here, so I'm kinda surprised when I do see them. I guess all the younger people around here just haven't had the joy of firing a gun, or they're liberal after making it through the school system and think guns are bad. :confused:

May 6, 2003, 03:02 AM
The first thing I thought of when I read the question-

I sure wouldn't expect to find these people at the range:

Diane Feinstein,
Barbara Boxer,
Michael Moore,
Susan Sarandon,
That guy who plays the president on TV,
etc, etc.

And that's too bad. If they were there, maybe I wouldn't have as much of a problem with them....


May 6, 2003, 04:19 AM

It's in Cheatham County, just past Ashland City. (Wildlife Management Area) Send Bowlcut or myself a PM for better directions. Better yet, we may be going this weekend if you'd like to meet up!


May 6, 2003, 08:57 PM
Well, there was a range in Denver that had "lady's night" where women got to shoot free Monday nights (Jade you should check it out - it's a pretty decent range, but I don't remember the name). One time I had a business meeting right before and went to the range wearing a suit - I got some looks that night! I was wearing heels and the whole experience sucked - next time I went home first and changed!

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