Help me decide: Glock or AR?


July 12, 2006, 02:54 AM
I just bought a Sig P226 in 9mm...oh happy day!!!

So, my next gun is either gonna be a GLOCK 21 or I'm gonna build an AR-15. I'll eventually have both of these, but I just can't decide which to get next, so YOU get to decide for me.

Ok guys and gals...lemme have it!

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July 12, 2006, 03:02 AM
First of all, let me congratulate you on the 226. I have one, with Hogue grips, and I love it. Better than my old Beretta 92FS, which I do miss.

Now, to your question...go with the AR. You have a great handgun, no reason to buy the Glock crap. An AR will be a great addition.


July 12, 2006, 03:09 AM
Funny you should say something about a GLOCK 21 and building an AR15. I already own a GLOCK 21, my AR15 is currently being built.

Small world :D

Ala Dan
July 12, 2006, 06:03 AM
The evil black assault rifle~!:neener:

July 12, 2006, 08:40 AM
I'm sensing a pattern here.

July 14, 2006, 03:48 PM
Alright...I ordered the lower from Rock River today...gonna see a couple of buddies next weekend and put this thing together...I'll have baby pics soon thereafter. :)

Taurus 66
July 14, 2006, 03:53 PM
I WANT A SIG! (stomping my foot) :mad:

AR is what you want next, then a shottie (if you don't already have one), then the Glock.

July 14, 2006, 04:34 PM
That's like asking how to choose between a screwdriver and a hammer.

They are tools that do entirely different jobs, and you need both to have a functional toolbox. ;)

50 Freak
July 14, 2006, 04:56 PM
AR of course, you already have a pistol, now you need a EBR....
then shotgun...
then sniper.....
then 50 cal....
then beltfed....
then minigun.....
then twin barreled repeating cannon....
then.......:evil: :evil:

July 14, 2006, 06:05 PM
I'm not as far from achieving that list as you might think!

I've got a P226 (thar's yer Sig!), 12ga, SKS, .308 Weatherby (et cetera... don't wanna let Big Bro know about my entire arsenal) :evil:

It's gonna be hard to wait on the Glock...I've been eyeing the 21 for about a month now.

July 14, 2006, 06:55 PM
I would agree the AR is logical next step.
Edited to avoid starting a Glock bashing thread.

July 14, 2006, 06:59 PM
An AR of course. Then reward yourself by building a FAL. That is what I did, an Imbel FAL parts kit built on a DSArms receiver.

Few who badmouth Glocks have actually owned one

I have 2 Glocks (a G27 and G29) and find Glock to be my least favorite gun to shoot. I find my Sigs, my 1911s and my HK much more enjoyable to shoot. However, the simple fact is that Glocks are very well built and much smaller than most competitors platforms. This makes them a great choice for a carry gun. For example, I wanted a 10mm for a carry gun so the only available choice was a Glock 29. As for my 27, I came across too good of a deal to pass up so it ended up in my collection. If only Sigs (I have a 239 and 245) were made as small as sub compact Glocks.

July 14, 2006, 07:20 PM
Glock or AR?

Why, yes, of course!

July 14, 2006, 07:27 PM
You already have a good handgun (I would've went with the Glock;) ), so it's time for the AR, IMO.
BTW, I just like Glocks, not downing your Sig.


July 14, 2006, 07:38 PM
I WANT A SIG! (stomping my foot)

Funny you should say that. For a while I thought SIGs were good guns, but I wasn't going to be owning any. They just seemed expensive for what you got. The only one on my list of wants was the 239, and even that wasn't at the top. Well, recently I started to like the idea of SIG quite a bit more and found myself interested. Then, I finally decided I would spend a few more bucks than I usually do on a gun and get something nice. I shopped around several makes and models and ended up getting my CPO SIG 226 (being a CPO it isn't that much more than I usually spend on a gun). Then shortly after (before I ever shot that 226) I bought a used 229 online as well (I've been slow to set up the FFL transfer so I don't have it even though I bought it nearly a month ago).

So, I went from not wanting a SIG (except someday a 239), to wanting a SIG, to owning 2 (though only possessing one) in the course of about 2 months. Now, I'm becoming a SIG guy fast. I now NEED a 239, I'd like a 228, I may look for an old 225...

July 14, 2006, 07:39 PM
So, my next gun is either gonna be a GLOCK 21 or I'm gonna build an AR-15.

You already decided on the AR so I don't need to give my advice. I would have asked what you already own, how often you shoot handguns and how often you shoot rifles. Most likely I would have suggested the AR. I love mine, though I rarely shoot it since I don't get to the rifle range often (I get to indoor pistol ranges a heck of a lot more).

July 14, 2006, 07:49 PM
EBR definitely! The scarier looking the better :p
I have 2 Glocks (a G27 and G29) and find Glock to be my least favorite gun to shoot.
I prefer shooting mine (G23 and G26) over the others but if I had that teeny G26 in .40 S&W and a 10mm smaller than my G23, I might prefer the 1911 as well!

July 14, 2006, 09:50 PM
Congrats on ordering your RRA lower. You'll have much fun with the AR.

You might as well order a second RRA lower to register as a short-barrel rifle if legal in your state. It'll take 3-4 months for the paperwork to clear.

Then, save up for a Glock 17 if you still want a Glock. It's 9mm like your Sig, so you won't introduce another caliber you have to stock. If you really want a .45, perhaps consider a 1911 instead of the Glock 21. If your intent is to have one "sample" of each major firearm "flavor", you'll end up with a Glock, a 1911, and a Beretta to go with your Sig. Ask me how I know. :D (Though, I must admit, I long ago sold the Sig.)

For your third rifle, consider a Marlin 60 or a similar .22LR. The FAL is a great idea for your fourth rifle.

Yes, if you aren't careful, you'll end up with at least five handguns and four rifles. Not to mention two shotguns. Then you find out what a C&R FFL is and end up with a K-31.

Maybe I'm jumping ahead. Get that AR together and enjoy. :D

(And did I mention suppressors? I didn't? Oh my.)

July 14, 2006, 10:11 PM
You have your handgun. Now you need your rifle and shotgun. If you are not happy with your choice of hangun trade it for the Glock or AR.

July 14, 2006, 10:47 PM
now you need a .308 rifle

To go with your new AR

Stiletto Null
July 14, 2006, 11:03 PM
Dark horse choice: FN49.

July 15, 2006, 02:45 PM
On the 1911...

I don't want to start a religious war here between the Cult of Tupperware and the First Reformed Church of St. John Moses Browning. Both are good. All I can say is that I learn physical things very slowly if at all. More than once on the range I've picked up a pistol and either spent an embarassing time trying to knock down a safety that wasn't there or pulling the trigger and wondering why nothing happens. If there had been a decocker as well I'd probably still be there trying to figure it out. If you're a kinesthetic dunce like me pick something with an external safety and always expect it to be there or the Glock/revolver "point and click interface".

July 15, 2006, 04:44 PM
Colt LE6920. You already have one of the single best 9mm's out there (neck-and-neck, IMHO, with the G17/19 series). Sure you'll eventually want another handgun, but since you have the $$ and the laws are friendly -- for now -- then go for a nice AR.

FWIW -- don't build one unless you like tinkering and asking "how come that ain't workin'?" Lots of folks here have lots of experience on the AR platform and will recommend a build...but it doesn't sound like you have that backrground.

Buy a nice AR/M4-type gun and don't screw around with its guts, then build another one after you buy your Glock!

July 16, 2006, 02:27 PM
I started purchasing guns about 4 years ago...started with an SKS. My wife has been wonderfully tolerant of my want/need to further augment my collection which has grown very quickly. Last night I was telling her about this thread I'd started and that I then knew what my next firearm acquisition was going to be. Again, I had to remind her of my primary reason for owning firearms...which is not because they're very very cool (which they are, of course). My primary reason is for the same reasons the Founding Father's insisted on the 2A...I should have the right and duty to defend myself, my family, my countrymen, and my Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic, or those who would seek to deprive me of life, liberty or property. My wonderful, Liberal, Very-Uncomfortable-Around-Guns wife continues to support our ownership of guns and continues to support 2A.

Ok, so you must be wondering what in the heck that heavy philosophical schtick has to do with this otherwise light-hearted thread. Well, I told you all that so that the following would make more sense.

Without revealing to the world every gun I own, here's what some of you mentioned that I should have and, in fact, already do:

couple of shotties
Makarov (I admit it, I'm a Makarovnik...great little guns!)
Sig 226 9mm

Now, considering my little diatribe above (i.e., my primary reason for owning arms), here's why I own these (yes, this is leading somewhere...I promise) :)

SKS was my 1st acquisition. It was recommended to me (correctly) as one of the best multi-purpose rifles around. You can hunt, defend yourself, it's very reliable, inexpensive to own and operate, etc...

Then, the Mak. Concealable, reliable. Yea, less ideal than a lot of handguns (9x18, for example) but not too bad nonetheless. I still had much to learn about handguns at that point (and still do for that matter).

Then, the shottie. Nothin' says "you're about to die" like the "SHUK-SHUK" of a 12 ga being cycled.

Ok, here's where this all starts making a little sense (I hope). Those were the "Essential 3." I believe every household (well, that I'm in charge of anyway) should have a good hunting rifle, a concealable handgun, and a home-defense shotgun, so now you have an idea behind my buying patterns for firearms.

So, after I got the "Essesntial 3" I started getting guns that could be higher-quality replacements to the Essential 3, making my original guns very handy and reliable back-ups to nicer, newer guns ('cept for my shottie which I got brand new). I also purchased guns that filled in a few gaps that the Essential 3 leave. In my case, my handgun (a Mak) was a good concealable gun, but 9x18 isn't exactly the most powerful round. Don't get me wrong...I won't wanna get shot with one. But why have a 9x18 and have some lingering doubt when you can have a 9x19 or, better yet, a 45 acp or .357 mag and be sure your target is going down (provided proper shot placement of course)! So, I got a Sig P226. Alright...before you say "hey, that's not a terribly small and concealable gun, mister!", allow me to point out that I am 6'2" 240lbs. It's concealable on me. :evil:

Now, back to "present day" where y'all have helped me decide to go with an AR-15 forst instead of the Glock.

In answer to a couple of previous questions/observations...

Yes, the Glock is gosh-awful ugly. I asked my very non-gun-savvy wife to tell me, strictly from an aesthetic point-of view, which looked better to Sig or a typical Glock. She literally recoiled when she saw the Glock. She said, "It looks like a design based on a 6-year-old boy's drawing of a gun." ...and she's a teacher, folks. :p But I am bound and determined to get a Glock anyway. Why? Because I've had too many people, some of them recent combat veterans, tell me that they would (and have) put their lives on the line with a Glock and wouldn't trust any other firearm's reliability as much as Glock's ever again. That was kinda difficult for a Sig man like me to take...but I heard it over and over again. So, even though I'm still a Sig guy, I'm gonna have a Glock in there too.

This should be pretty obvious by now if you've followed my gun-buying pattern, but the AR is a replacement weapon for my SKS. Well, not a replacement, really...the SKS stays, but will now mack up my AR.

So, what's in my boom-stick future after the AR and Glock? I'm sure I'll add a revolver in there (prolly a .357). I don't think I'll need much more than the 9mm and .45 from a semi-auto handgun calliber perspective, but who knows what I'll think of tomorrow. ;-)

One thing's for sure though...what I read on THR day-by-day will be, in combination with my own opinions and on-going education, a very infuential factor in what comes next. Heck, I just let you guys make me buy an AR! ( "made" me do it...that's what I'll tell the wife). :evil:

July 16, 2006, 04:50 PM
An AR15 of course! :cool:

Harry Paget Flashman
July 16, 2006, 04:53 PM
I bought a used gen 2 Glock 21, then a Bushmaster Carbon 15 M-4. Do both, the order doesn't really matter.

July 17, 2006, 12:37 AM
Alright...I ordered the lower from Rock River today...gonna see a couple of buddies next weekend and put this thing together...I'll have baby pics soon thereafter.

Good luck on that, an RRA rep told me it was going to be a 4-6 week wait for my complete upper:uhoh:.

July 17, 2006, 12:51 AM
I don't know what your needs are, but if you don't have an AR you need one.

July 17, 2006, 05:26 PM
Guess I went against the grain here. I have 5 Glocks and 1 AR. I do love my Glocks.....

Either one will serve you well.

July 17, 2006, 05:29 PM
Get the AR.

Blastier, boomier, scarier to GFW's, more fun, better zombie nullification potential...

'nuff said.

July 17, 2006, 06:02 PM
You already have a pistol, and a really nice one at that. Go for the AR. It will fill a different role than your Sig. That and a 12 gauge pump are at the top of my list. Diversify the collection so you can handle all circumstances (and have more fun). :D

July 17, 2006, 06:04 PM
AR of course, you already have a pistol, now you need a EBR....
then shotgun...
then sniper.....
then 50 cal....
then beltfed....
then minigun.....
then twin barreled repeating cannon....

I couldn't agree more. :D I'm working on saving up $$ to check these off my list. :evil:

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