Remington 1858


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AmbulanceDriver
July 12, 2006, 03:04 PM
Ok guys. So earlier I posted that I hadn't had the opportunity to take my new Uberti Remmy 1858 out yet. Still haven't. But in preparing for hoping to be able to take her out this next weekend, I was going to do a full disassemble and reassemble to clean off all the preservative oil they put in and on this revolver.

I started with the fairly obvious, including removing the grips, cylinder, and the retaining screw so I could remove the loading lever and the cylinder pin.

However, when I got down to the trigger screw and the hammer screw, I decided to stop. For one, I can't get the trigger guard screw out. The one screwdriver I have with a thin enough blade gets distorted if I try to remove said screw. That sucker is in there TIGHT. So not being able to remove that lower screw, I stopped trying to perform any further disassembly.

Now, for you experienced shooters. How critical is it to get to the internals there for routine or thorough cleaning? I really would like to keep this revolver in good shape for as long as possible.

Your suggestions/instructions would be most helpful.


(oh, and don't think I didn't notice that there's a set of instructions stickied for disassembling a *Colt* revolver, but none for the Remmy.... You guys got something against that 1858??? :D )

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dwave
July 12, 2006, 03:18 PM
(oh, and don't think I didn't notice that there's a set of instructions stickied for disassembling a *Colt* revolver, but none for the Remmy.... You guys got something against that 1858??? )

No it's not that at all! The 58 NEVER needs cleaned! Even when firing corrosive powder. :) Seriously, I just figured that no one has done one yet. I own both a 51 navy and a 58 army and to me the army is easier to tear down maybe that is why.

Now on to cleaning! If I am using Black Powder or that horrible stuff Pyrodex I clean the internals of my gun every time after shooting it unless I am going to shoot it again the next day, then it gets done the next day. This goes for all my guns.

When it comes to 777 or American Pioneer I clean the internals every couple of times I take it out. Both of these powders are very low corrosiveness and I don't feel the need to clean the internals every time I use these powders.

Of course I am sure there are many opinions on this subject. Oh and the trigger guard screw on my 58 was very hard to remove. Get a tight fitting screw driver and watch that you don't strip the screw head.

Manyirons
July 12, 2006, 03:22 PM
Course, theys tha STAINLESS M58 option! Dunk tha sucker lika donut an oil er! :)

Old Fuff
July 12, 2006, 03:47 PM
First of all, get a set of screwdrivers and grind the tips to fit the various screws. A thin-bladed tip will soon ruin the screw, and may break besides.

1. Remove the screw at the front of the trigger guard and pivot the guard down and off.

2. Remove the screw holding the bolt and trigger spring (seen from the bottom of the frame after you remove the trigger guard).

3. Remove the screw holding the trigger and cylinder bolt and then wiggle these parts out.

4. Back off the mainspring tension screw (located at the bottom/front of handle.

5. Gently tap the mainspring out of its seat at the bottom of the handle.

6. Remove the hammer screw.

7. Push the hammer slightly downward and remove the hand pivot screw.

8. Remove the hand and then the hammer.

9. Reassemble in reverse order. You may have to use a pair of smooth-jawed pliers to get the mainspring started back into place in its seat in the frame. Then tap it into place. As a rule it is not necessary to remove the mainspring and hammer for ordinary cleaning.

AmbulanceDriver
July 12, 2006, 03:50 PM
Fuff, thank you. That was exactly what I was looking for....


Now to go hunt down that dremel........


(For the screwdrivers, you heathens, not the gun!)

Old Dragoon
July 14, 2006, 03:11 PM
AD,
Do yourself a favor and buy a gunsmith Screwdriver set. Chapman makes an inexpensive set in a yellow plactic box with several different drivers, handle extention and a rachet to fit the inserts or the extension. I think mine was around $25.00. There are blades that fit every screw in a '58 Rem. and the Colts too. Had mine for a few years and use it darn near every day. :what:

sundance44s
July 14, 2006, 03:34 PM
Thats true you do need to buy a set of gunsmith quality screw drivers to work on these pistols , too many different size screw heads to be useing one screw driver to fit all .. even a 13 dollar set from walley world would be better than nothing .. that screwdriver you keep in the kitchen drawer just isn`t gonna work ..lol ... and even if you aren`t gonna take out the internals it is a good idea to remove the trigger guard and grips when doing any kind of cleaning at all ..you don`t want to trap water anywhere in there ....and the screw that holds the lock up bolt and trigger spring can be a really tight one too from the factory .. i swear i think they used an impact wrench to tighten those on all of mine ...that screw just doesn`t need be that tight !
I just done some tradeing for a Euro Arms remmie ... great looking gun used .. but someone had bummed up the heads on all the screws .. and i replaced them all before i would even shoot it ..... it just looked bad that way .

Wwalstrom
July 14, 2006, 03:55 PM
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h242/Wwalstrom/1858RemNA-020.jpg

Wwalstrom
July 14, 2006, 04:08 PM
Internals Close Up (Hammer/Hand):
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h242/Wwalstrom/1858RemNA-013.jpg

Internals Close Up (Trigger/Bolt):
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h242/Wwalstrom/1858RemNA-012.jpg

Modification for Using Snail-Type Capper:
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h242/Wwalstrom/1858RemNA-003.jpg

Old Fuff
July 14, 2006, 04:55 PM
Well if some Mod can combine my post #4 with this one we should be in business. Then by all means make it a stickie... :)

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