Texas, Florida, Humidity, Guns, Rust, Comfort


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Pendragon
May 2, 2003, 08:25 PM
Two parts to this thread really.

Here in Sacramento, our humidity is usually just under 20% I have never had a gun rust or much of anything rust that was not under water or something.

It stil looks like we are going to move to hopefully either TX or FL (TN is a distant 3rd choice).

The one thing I really worry about is the humidity. My wife REALLY hates humidity - she says it will wreck her hair and makeup and she will not want to go anywhere.

I also worry about caring for my guns. I will probably have my Valtro hard chromed - that should help, and my revolvers should be SS and alloy - but how much more rust prone are things in those parts of the country?

Are you guys just used to it or does it bother you in the dead of summer? More importantly, how do your women handle it?

We get 110 degree temps here sometimes, but as they say say "it's a dry heat".

I am really interested to hear if the humidity affects your firearms, what you do about it and if anyone has move to those areas from a less humid place, what their experience was like. (especially your wives experience).

Oh - we are looking at Jacksonville, Dalas/FW and maybe Austin...

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El Tejon
May 2, 2003, 08:37 PM
Gets bad at times here. I carry a blued weapon. No problems if regular upkeep.

Pendragon
May 2, 2003, 08:48 PM
Indiana has bad humidity?

All the good gun states are plagued with humidity :(

synoptic
May 2, 2003, 09:15 PM
The humidity doesn't bother me much. You get used to it. As long as you keep your gun oiled and such it should be alright. Also a good idea to keep them inside, like not in the garage or trunk, the humidity may get to them in those places, but inside the air conditioning keeps the house pretty comfortable. One of those golden rod things in your safe may help as well...

Ledbetter
May 2, 2003, 09:22 PM
Goldenrod looks like the best anti-humidity deal going, put one in your gun safe and one in your wife's hair.:what:

I crack myself up. Congrats on getting outta here. I'm in Austin a few times a year and there's some real nice hill country around there you might like. Texans are real nice people too.

I/ve been thinking about Kentucky/Tennessee and I know it's humid there, but when the poop hits the turbine, I wanna be near water and away from town.

Lone_Gunman
May 2, 2003, 09:26 PM
I've lived in Georgia, Florida, and Alabama all my life, and still havent gotten used to the heat and humidity.

There is just no way to enjoy 95 degrees and 95% humidity, and thats what you get most of May, June, July, August, and September.

Make-up runs, and hair goes flat, for sure (note this is from observation, not personal experience).

I havent really had a problem with blued guns either, just keep them clean, dont get sweat on them, and wipe them down every so often, and they will do fine.

The only rust problem I have ever had involved a Keltec that fell into the Gulf of Mexico with me once, and then I forgot to clean it for a few days. It was a mess.

TarpleyG
May 2, 2003, 09:34 PM
If you hate **********, you'll hate Austin too... Just FYI. As for humidity, don't sweat it (pardon the pun). Just keep the hardware wiped down and get a good holster.

GT

Jesse H
May 2, 2003, 10:10 PM
I remember vacationing in California for a summer, then moving back to Houston....it took about a week to get used to it. My main carry gun is blued and I haven't had any rust problems. It stays in a kydex holster with a sweat panel that keeps moisture off the gun.

You hate it, you try to stay indoors as much as possible...but you get used to it. I've been through about 22 Houston summers and every year I complain about hot muggy it is, but you get used to it. ;)

Dorrin79
May 2, 2003, 10:21 PM
I was raised in Houston, and currently live in the Austin area.

Austin is a lot less humid that Houston, but probably still pretty unpleasant to someone from California.

I doubt it's really humid enough to damage things, though.

You need to be on the coast for that (like, Galveston)

Unless you're referring to sweat, in which case I recommend doing what we Texans do, and getting a severe case of heatstroke early, to switch off your sweat glands for the rest of your life! (It's not like they do you any good here anyway)

MacPelto
May 2, 2003, 10:39 PM
If you hate **********, you'll hate Austin too...

Not true. There are plenty of normal people in Austin, and it's just an island of liberals in a conservative state. The only places that are hard-core liberal are campus and coffee houses. And if it's really too much, it's not hard to live in Williamson county, Lakeway, Manor, etc. and work in Austin.

Now, as to sweat/humidity...bluing has to be kept oiled on a regular basis, hard chrome and tenifer are the easiest things to deal with, hence...Glock.

When it comes to makeup, I don't know; but a trip to Plano (a Dallas suburb) will teach you that there is no weather that can withstand an entire can of Aqua Net hairspray!

rick458
May 2, 2003, 11:27 PM
You said Dallas area right , Dallas is fairly dry Houston is definitely
High humidity but you just wipe your pistols down with your lube of choice I use FP-10 now. The only thing I had rust was a blued colt mag and it just had a light dusting of rust.

What you can wipe the wife down with to fix her hair I do not know

Drizzt
May 2, 2003, 11:31 PM
MacPelto: I lived north of Georgetown and drove into Austin for work when I first came back to TX. Unless the improvements they made on I-35 were nothing short of a miracle, I wouldn't wish that on anyone... SW Austin is now 'where it's at'. Living almost right next door to Red's works out pretty well for me.

I think a lot also depends on what you are carrying. I ususally either carry a Kimber Ultra Compact in Stainless, or a HK USP Compact in stainless, and have never really had any issues. I make absolutely certain, though, that I wipe them down as soon as I get home, though. Even in Winter...

Greybeard
May 3, 2003, 12:20 AM
Moving to Dallas from the dry Texas Panhandle, we got here just in time for the record-breaking summer of 1980: 40 something consecutive days of 100 degrees+. But ... even The Wife survived. Inside with AC going, humidity not a problem, but she is known to sometimes get the "big hair" once in the outdoors.

Depending upon the time of year, it can take about a month to get acclimated to DFW area humidity. Austin a little worse. The coastline ... I avoid if at all possible unless able to go in shorts and/or a swim suit.

Gun rust not too a big issue here unless ya do something often like ridin' 'em hard and puttin' 'em up wet. But then, that's why God sent Gaston Glock, huh?

Y'all come. :D

sm
May 3, 2003, 01:08 AM
In Ar we have humidity. One gets acclimated, unless they have respiratory problems.

Guns: Storage, mine are in a safe, in a walk in safe at an undisclosed location. Wiped down , stored in 'sack ups' , inspected on a regular basis. Used Formula 3 or RIG

CCW, Wiped down daily. Kleenbore Formula 3, RIG univeral grease. For ..well now I guess 30 yrs.

BF CLP has been very sucessful here for many years.

I did find that the ProTec products works well on internal/external also, if one prefers another synthetic choice.

Main thing is to inspect and maintain.

Drink lots of water;)

CZ-75
May 3, 2003, 01:16 AM
Guns will need a thorough cleaning when coming back from range trips. I've found that leaving crud in the barrel can lead to rust, as it wicks moisture. I got away w/ not doing this for weeks in the Midwest, but not in the SE, as evidenced by minor pitting in a Moisin-Nagant and CZ-52.

Sylvilagus Aquaticus
May 3, 2003, 01:19 AM
Humidity is nothing in Dallas compared to Houston. PVC plastic rusts in Houston. Granted, Dallas seems like an induction furnace from May through September but with the afternoon thunderstorm alerts and occasional baseball sized hail like we've had 2 days this week it isn't all that dry. I carry a P229 daily (concealed- either in a fanny pack or a IWB holster) and I've never had a problem. All my longarms are secure in a special closet and I've not had a problem with surface rust.

BTW, I grew up in deep east Texas in the riverbottoms; in the summer it's 100 degrees with 100% humidity with no breeze. I don't trust air I can't drink.

At least in Dallas there's always a 10 to 30 mph wind blowing. In the winter, the only thing between north central Texas and the North Pole is a barbed-wire fence. It does most assuredly get hotter in town than in the outlying areas likely because of all the concrete. 4 years ago the temperatures during August were frequently over 105 with 70% humidity. At least it'll keep your lungs moist if you can stand the ozone levels. God made Texas. Dave Lennox made Texas inhabitable.

The only other place I'd rather live is down the Texas coast, probably Corpus Christi or further south. Hurricanes are another story, though.


Regards,
Rabbit.

The most terrible job in warfare is to be a Second Lieutenant leading a platoon when you are on the battlefield. - Dwight D. Eisenhower.

Kentucky Rifle
May 3, 2003, 09:38 AM
Sometimes in the summer, I'll step out of the house and my glasses will fog up due to the humidity. The Ohio Valley is the worst. I have a lot of stainless steel guns. However I also have several blue guns. My new Marlin will be blue. They all, even the SS, get the "Rig-Rag". When guys like RJ Hedley (Florida) and CR Sam (Mountain top in Arizona) tell me to use Rig, I listen. Sam told me that he'd been using Rig for 60 years! A sheep skin Rig-Rag is inexpensive and good protection from rust.

KR

sm
May 3, 2003, 10:15 AM
Kentucky Rifle,
Don't you hate the fogged glasses?
when I worked in an OR the solution used to prevent fogging was mainly isopropyl alcohol. I've been trying the alcohol swabs to clean mine ...not sure yet.

My shooting glasses came with a cloth and worked fine for preventing fogging. Getting worn, and not sure what the preventative is.

Be at a disadvantage to have a situation occur about the same time glasses fogged...I just look over mine when it occurs...still...

TheFrontRange
May 3, 2003, 11:23 AM
Ditto those remarks about there being no way to enjoy 95 degree temps coupled with 90%-plus humidity...ughhh...I've lived in 'Bama most of my life and I'm still not used to it, either! The visits we make to see family in Colorado are SOOOOOO nice! :)

In the summertime I give my carry weapon a wipedown with some RIG lubricant...I've gotta check out one of those RIG-rags I've been reading about out here. I did have some rust try to settle under the wooden grip panels of my 1911 once, so now I even pull the grips off and wipe there after extended carrying. With the 1911, I'm normally packing outside-the-waistband.

I've just started carrying a SIG P239 in a Kramer Confidant holster shirt and the gun usually gets soaked in perspiration on the side facing in to the body. Again, a nightly wipedown is in order. The three mags I have for this pistol are all blued and I have had some rust develop on whatever spare mag I'm carrying in the offhand-side pouch on the holster shirt. I've actually had to do some careful sanding and then attack it with the RIG lube to stave it off.

tonerguy
May 3, 2003, 12:25 PM
Here in Houston we have some wonderful "festivals" that you will enjoy.

Right now we are having one of several "Allergy Festivals" where half of the folks are hacking and coughing and tearing up. This occurs twice a year for some, more often for others.

The big event, of course, is just beginning - our annual "Humidity Festival." It lasts from May 1st to October 30th give or take. If you take a shower in the morning now just add another when you get home from work if you work in the heat.

If you go from A/C house to A/C car to A/C office and then again in reverse order you can stay reasonably dry to the touch. If you mow the lawn take a towel.

Despite the heat and humidity, Houston is a great place to live, especially if you are a small business person. Entrepreneurship is honored and encouraged in the Bayou City.

Your wife will have an opportunity to test her adaptation skills.

rick458
May 3, 2003, 01:06 PM
You know the man that invented Automobile AC lived in Houstonhe paid $1000.00 in like 1924 to have a Kalvinator installed in his trunk.:D

Feanaro
May 3, 2003, 01:23 PM
I live in THE birthplace of American humidity, Alabama. It's never really affected anything I clean regularly, such as a weapon. If I left a gun outside for about five, six or seven days it would start to rust(I never leave anything with metal on it outside if I can help it. Rusts real fast). But I always clean 'em and bring them inside.

Florida and Texas always seemed dry to me. Florida is also hot as hell, I might add. TN is another story...

feedthehogs
May 3, 2003, 01:44 PM
:cool:
A resident of South Florida for 25 years teaches you to tolerate the heat.
I work outdoors everyday. During summer you learn to slow down and drink plenty of fluids.
Its not that bad other than the further South you go, the more Northern you get.

Guns kept inside do just fine in the AC. Keep a heating rod in the safe along with desiccant paks incase the power goes out during a Hurricane.

Lightly oil blued guns with a no evaporating oil. Don't use WD 40.
Gun X from corrosion technologies works great.

Don't use the silicone treated gun socks.
The socks absorb moisture and trap it next to the gun.
Can't tell you how many ruined finishes I've seen.

Drizzt
May 3, 2003, 02:41 PM
...and another thing tonerguy forgot to mention about Houston is: you had better upgrade to a high capacity, large-caliber handgun, because those mosquitoes don't go down easily. God forbid you only wing one of 'em...

tonerguy
May 3, 2003, 02:52 PM
...and another thing, tonerguy, I forgot to mention about Houston is: you had better upgrade to a high capacity, large-caliber handgun, because those mosquitoes don't go down easily. God forbid you only wing one of 'em...

Isn't that the truth! Rather deal with a wounded bull elephant!

Now I wait 'til they land on something before I shoot. Found I can't wing shoot worth a flip with a pistol, and my wife won't let me shoot the 12 guage in the house any more. (Anyone know a good sheet rock repair guy?) :D

Hutch
May 3, 2003, 02:59 PM
Was born in Alabama, and have lived here most of my 47 yrs. I STILL hate summer. You get used to it, but you're not likely to ever enjoy it. As far as the wife goes, point out that (usually) 4 or 5 of the 10 finalists for Miss America are from the Deep South. It obviously ain't botherin' THEM, is it?

Just take care of your guns. All the advice you're getting here is sound.

Be prepared, tho'. People wave to each other down here while in their cars. On foot, they make eye contact, often smile, usually nod an acknowledgement. "Sir" and "Ma'am" from the children. No feigned familiarity displayed to new aquaintances. Words weighed before spoken. There is much to be overcome, but much to be admired.

sm
May 3, 2003, 03:07 PM
Being as the Rice Capital of the World is close...we grow 'em big.
<how big>
big enough to stand flat footed and french kiss a chicken.

With 1911 in hand...

I missed the skeeter -trying to give that poor chicken some relief...
we had mashed taters/gravy/biscuits green beans,and fried pies to go with the chicken that night.:D

Kentucky Rifle
May 3, 2003, 03:49 PM
Fogged glasses are a problem alright. I'm afraid to use alcohol or just about anything but Ivory Soap because my glasses are supposed to be coated with this "Crizal" stuff. No glare and amazingly, NO scratches. Really--Two years and *NO* scratches!

KR

Pendragon
May 3, 2003, 06:08 PM
Well, I got enough health problems already so I am probably going to get my eyes laserblasted when I sell the house.

Contacts have to many problems - especially outside and glasses are even worse. My 17 month old has about wore out my hi-tech titanium flexi frames - he just yells "GLA!" and rips them off my face - cute but these used to be nice spectacles.

Feanaro
May 3, 2003, 10:08 PM
My glasses(needed 'em all my life) never fog up. Maybe it's just me.

BTW, Hutch is right. Whenever I pass someone on my infrequent morning walks I wave and say "g'mornin' " and they respond in kind. And I don't know them. "Ma'am" and "Sir" are common, though not enough. It's hard to understand us sometimes. But just remember we can't understand plain English either. :D

Few tips if you move to the Southeast(Southwestern people are a whole 'nother ballpark :)). It isn't soda, it's Coke. Even if it's a Pepsi you ask for a Coke. And hushpuppies ARE cornbread. Too many people have eaten them in front of me whilst denouncing cornbread. :)

Down the road is one mile, twenty or somewhere inbetween. And don't be suprised if there are twenty churches on an eight mile stretch of road. ;)

tonerguy
May 3, 2003, 10:21 PM
Watch out for the "tea." In parts of the south it ain't iced tea, it's "tea." Yes, it's iced and already loaded with sugar in some places. If you want unsweetened tea you often have to ask for it.

Feanaro
May 3, 2003, 10:30 PM
Right, forgot that one. And if you ask for hot tea people stare at you. Rightly so, I think. Hot tea sucks. ;)

synoptic
May 4, 2003, 01:03 AM
glasses generally fog up on a warm day after a rain, usually between the cool inside and the humid outside... The south is great, lived here for the majority of my life, be careful though, once you get here you won't want to leave...

sm
May 4, 2003, 01:27 AM
Glasses:
Well my eye DR and I conversed today since this thread came up.
My glasses have a coating also. He said I probably can get by with the alcohol swabs, suggested I not. Since he does surgery, he said the "Fred's Fogger" the solution used inthe OR is the sterile version of what one buys, or can make up at home. Basically its "mild"dishwashing liquid (like Ivory) water and a bit of alcohol. Always use a soft cloth, never any wood products (paper towels etc.)

Some leave a soap film to alleviate, but that really doesn't work. The cloths have a silicone type impregnation, this wears off quickly and some times all one ends up doing is reapplying dirt back onto the lens , taking a chance on scratching.

He said to put a small mix of soap and water in one of my empty Naphcon A eye drop bottles and use my hankerchief to clean as need. Label of course, soap would really give my allergic eyes a fit. Fogging is well part of wearing glasses, to work around it. If I run into a door because I was watching a girl on campus, and not where I was going..."my glasses fogged". :)

Southern born and bred, I drink unsweetened tea . Drink coffee black. I rarely use sugar...bought a 3# bag 4 years ago, I finally gave to a neighbor.

Unsweet tea...yeah well been called a rebel most my life.

TheFrontRange
May 6, 2003, 12:35 AM
A hearty "amen" to all these remarks about politeness and courtesy in the land of the South...I've never seen such anywhere else.

...and another good thing about the Southland...the food! Like barbecue (my personal favorite being from The Golden Rule in Hoover, though Bob Sykes' BBQ in Bessemer is darn good, too) and burgers from none other than Milo's!

To keep this gun-related...I pack either a 1911 or a SIG P239 in all those places, plus just about anywhere else I go. I "made" my first CCW'er in The Golden Rule a few years back...fella sitting at the counter was inadvertently displaying a snub-nosed revolver in an ankle rig as the hem of his jeans leg rode up just a bit too high. :)

mummac
May 6, 2003, 01:12 AM
I think the sweet tea and BBQ makes up for the humidity. If you move to FL, expect heavy rain everyday for 15 minutes at 5:00PM from June to Sept. I live in a house without central AC and my guns don't rust so long as I whipe them down with oil every month or two. People in TX and AL are WAY more polite than people in FL but the fishing is much better here. You'll get used to the humidity.

CatsDieNow
May 6, 2003, 10:57 AM
When I moved to DFW from Northern Indiana, everyone down here told me about how bad the humidity was. They misled me. Northern Indiana is a swampy marshland. The 110 degree days here feel like 90 degree days back home. It is far more dry here than in say, Houston. Of course, these are the same people who told me that it snows in Fort Worth. :rolleyes:

Him: "Oh sure, we can get about an inch of snow or so."

Me: "Is that per hour or your yearly cumulative total?"

What S.A. said about the wind is definitly true. I seem to recall that the highest recorded wind speed in the U.S. was right here in Fort Worth, I think it's in New Hampshire now.

Silver Bullet
May 6, 2003, 04:55 PM
All the good gun states are plagued with humidity
Say what ? :)

Jack19
May 6, 2003, 07:43 PM
I live in North Carolina, and yes it's hot an humid in the summer, and, well, most of the spring, and pretty much a good part of the fall. I've learned two things.....

1. Buy CLP or RemOil
2. Use CLP or RemOil

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