No more cheap Walmart ammo


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Guy B. Meredith
July 12, 2006, 10:03 PM
I did not see the normal stock of ammo at the local Walmart (Dublin/Pleasanton) and asked the clerk about that. He begain to say that in Contra Costa and Alameda counties and then paused and said Wally is not selling ammo. Said it is political.

I really need to say that the clerks in this WalMart are not the usual wimpy puppy teen ager. These guys are very helpful and give me none of the grief so often described on this forum. This clerk felt my pain.

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carterbeauford
July 12, 2006, 10:19 PM
Would really like to know more about this if what the clerk said is true. Either way that is incredibly lame, but it is their loss, not yours. I buy everything other than milsurp from Cabelas. Those OD plastic ammo boxes have a plethora of uses.

OldSchooler
July 13, 2006, 12:02 AM
Those OD plastic ammo boxes have a plethora of uses.
So do the metal ones.

LadySmith
July 13, 2006, 07:24 AM
I did not see the normal stock of ammo at the local Walmart (Dublin/Pleasanton) and asked the clerk about that. He begain to say that in Contra Costa and Alameda counties and then paused and said Wally is not selling ammo. Said it is political.
Same thing happening down in the South Bay. I stopped at the Walmart in Milpitas, noticed the skimpy ammo selection and the clerk told me the same thing. They're phasing out ammo, and only the Walmarts in Milpitas and Mountain View have any left. I went to a Walmart in San Jose to verify the clerk's story. I'd bought a few boxes of ammo there a few weeks ago. It's true. There is now airsoft gear behind the glass cases where ammo used to be. Sad and creepy. :uhoh:

ilbob
July 13, 2006, 07:30 AM
This has been discussed on other boards at infinitum. About 1/3 of all WalMarts are no longer going to sell guns. I think all the stores in CA are going to stop selling ammo as well because of the problems WalMart has had in obeying the law there.

This is not so much political as it is a marketing shift.

Have you noticed their latest commercials? Sort of Targetish. Guess where their latest VP marketing came from.

They have made a conscious decision to try to be a little more upscale. Whether it works or not is something else.

Guy B. Meredith
July 13, 2006, 09:38 AM
Well, no ammo means no patronage. There are few things that draw me to the big box stores--can't handle rude crowds--and now there is one less.

One of the few things I bought there is 12 GA 00 buckshot.

Third_Rail
July 13, 2006, 10:01 AM
Main thing that had me going to Walmart was the $4.50/15 rifled slugs for 12ga, and the $5.00 for 25 00 Buck!

Lou629
July 13, 2006, 10:12 AM
Depending on the area, many Wal-Mart stores won't sell ammo or guns...not PC enough with the locals here in NJ for example, but across the river in PA you can get both guns and ammo in their stores. As far as prices go, they have always been within bounds from my experiences with them. However, "cheap" ammo is a thing of the past, the prices are increasing nearly every month just about everywhere, and even Wally world has had to follow suit when their costs go up. There are at least some manufacturers that Wally can't dictate to when it comes to what they'll pay for something.

Deanimator
July 13, 2006, 10:29 AM
No guns, but plenty of ammo at the North Olmsted, OH store. Too bad you have to call ahead and make an APPOINTMENT to buy any! Otherwise, you can wait for an hour and not get any help, even after asking several people for assistance.

Lupinus
July 13, 2006, 10:58 AM
still guns and ammo at my local wally world, but I have told myself that I am not buying either there anymore. I have decided to grunt bear it and spend a whole two extra dollars on my .22 bulk packs at the gun shops. Same goes now for everything but cloths, mainly because for my work I need khakis button down shirts and ties and I need those savings to buy my ammo elsewhere :neener:

armoredman
July 13, 2006, 11:03 AM
Since Sportsman's Warehouse opened down the street, I need nothing firearm related from WalMart, but we do quite a bit of normal shopping there.

trapperjohn
July 13, 2006, 11:28 AM
its not any kind of nefarious antigun plot by walmart. It is simple business. Some stores sell very little ammo and guns. Guns have low markup, high cost to stock, and tend to sit a long time before selling. From a pure economic standpoint it makes perfect sense to not sell them.
Remember walmart is a corporation, its responsibility is to its stockholders to maximize the holders investment. It is not a no profit organization or political action group whose purpose is to further 2A rights.

that being said i would be sad to see walmart stop selling the stuff because it does keep firarms in the mainstream to be seen and because the cheap prices allow some to start into firarms who might nto otherwise be able to.

kfranz
July 13, 2006, 11:32 AM
Still fair amounts of cheap ammo at WalMart in the "free" states...

taliv
July 13, 2006, 11:46 AM
hey, the ammo in walmart isn't "cheap" anymore. it's "free"! as long as it's under $25 of course

Radjxf
July 13, 2006, 11:54 AM
Awesome, yet another reason to avoid that crowded, loathesome place!:barf:
I've been doing fairly well ordering online with my C&R discount even considering the shipping charges.

Kodiak AK
July 13, 2006, 12:56 PM
Kewl . Maybe they will finaly bring WWB up here .

Mikee Loxxer
July 13, 2006, 01:32 PM
Is Walmart your only source of ammo? If so I can understand your consternation. If not you should remember that Wally World does not need to sell anything firearms related to stay in business. Support your local gun store, firearms and related products are their lifes blood. They will support your right to keep and bear arms whereas Walmart seems to be more concerned with keeping the PLA well funded and could care less about the US Constition.

10 Ring Tao
July 13, 2006, 01:40 PM
Those OD plastic ammo boxes have a plethora of uses.

They sure do!

http://pixpipeline.com/s/dd14b89ed46.jpg

RNB65
July 13, 2006, 01:42 PM
The only Wal Mart problem around here is getting ammo while it's in stock. The popular cals (9mm, .40, and .45ACP) go out the front door about as fast as they bring it in the back door. I've learned the hard way to not wait 'til the last minute to buy ammo before heading to the range. :(

Lupinus
July 13, 2006, 02:01 PM
there aren't any strictly gun stores around here, one in gradys which is an outdoors kinda place. Lots of guns, lots of ammo, lots of knives, lots of fishing gear, lots of other outdoorsy stuff....so I aint complainin. And the other is white jones hardware. Lots of guns, lots of ammo, lots of fishing stuff, and tools and hardware stuff...so agian not complaining lol. Either way, I have gone from buying most everything at walmart to as little as possible from wal mart.

rev214
July 13, 2006, 02:21 PM
its not any kind of nefarious antigun plot by walmart.

i dunno...al gore :barf: and wally world teamin' up again the global warming monster :what: ...
i smell moonbats in the makin'...:neener: :neener:

cbsbyte
July 13, 2006, 02:48 PM
for Californians. Walmarts decision on not selling ammo in CA does not effect the rest of the country. Though I never shop at Walmart so it really would not matter to me.

ArmedBear
July 13, 2006, 05:28 PM
Local stores here still have ammo, or at least some of them do.

They don't have any 8x56 Hungarian, though, so it doesn't matter to me.:p

torpid
July 13, 2006, 05:35 PM
cbsbyte

No more cheap Walmart ammo for Californians. Walmarts decision on not selling ammo in CA does not effect the rest of the country. Though I never shop at Walmart so it really would not matter to me.

So you neither live in CA nor shop at Walmart.

And the point of your post is what exactly?

Ah, that you neither live in CA nor shop at Walmart so it really doesn't matter to you.

Riiiight...

:rolleyes:

Geno
July 13, 2006, 05:42 PM
Somehow that picture brings to my mind, images of "Falling Down"--the movie--the golf course. :)

That's good! In fact, that's darned good!!

Doc2005

Jac
July 13, 2006, 05:47 PM
Is that an assault wheelbarrow, 10 Ring?:neener:

Still get ammo at WallyWorld where I am... Not that I'd care to, if it wasn't so cheap. I like the guy at the local gunshop, but ammo's a bit hard on my budget there.

Yeager
July 13, 2006, 05:49 PM
Has everyone forgotton their old comercials? :uhoh:

"If wal-mart dosen't have it you just don't need it! teehee" :eek:

How could this not be a anti-gun plot?

darthlung
July 13, 2006, 07:13 PM
i have seen the same in Tx aswell . Wally still carrys ammo for shotguns but not much else . but i normaly shop at academy any way but they are out of 7.62x39 most of the time as are everyone else around here .

Deer Hunter
July 13, 2006, 08:02 PM
I just bought 80 dollars (exactly $80.00) worth of ammo from Walmart tonight. Actually, it was a present for helping out my mom with her shop in town. She used and abused me, especially when she dropped that damned Armoir on my arm, twice. I bought 200 rounds of UMC JHP 9mm and 200 rounds of winchester white box .45 ACP.

And do you want to hear the funniest part about it? A box of 50 .45 ACP WWB cost 19.88, a box of 100 cost 20.88. I asked the guy to double check it, but that's what the prices were. I was floored. I would expect wally-world to have a better grasp of mathematical ratios than that.

Mortech
July 13, 2006, 08:21 PM
I noticed that too, thats why I get the 100 count boxes , heck they even carry 357 Sig at almost 9mm prices .

RNB65
July 13, 2006, 08:23 PM
A box of 50 .45 ACP WWB cost 19.88, a box of 100 cost 20.88.

You sure it wasn't JHP? The 50 box of WWB is normally JHP and costs around $20, twice what FMJ costs.

Deer Hunter
July 13, 2006, 08:26 PM
I'm positive, both were WWB. The only difference was quantity.

RNB65
July 13, 2006, 08:30 PM
Somebody screwed up somewhere. Someone who wasn't paying attention or doesn't know the diff between JHP and FMJ and priced the FMJ 50/box at the JHP 50/box price.

Deer Hunter
July 13, 2006, 08:33 PM
That could be it. I'm not saying that it wasn't a mistake.

I AM saying that I found it funny.

Stauble
July 14, 2006, 10:51 AM
the wal-mart by me stopped selling guns, but they keep selling the ammo, and all the ammo is pretty decently priced. i normally just buy my ammo in bulk off the internet so thier prices dont really bother me

Davo
July 14, 2006, 03:39 PM
I both live in CA and shop at Walmart. I usually buy cleaning supplies and .22 bulk pack ammo there. They are my only local source of federal bulk pack ammo-im hoping its not one more thing ill have to get mail order.

redneck2
July 14, 2006, 05:13 PM
Since Sportsman's Warehouse opened down the street, I need nothing firearm related from WalMart, but we do quite a bit of normal shopping there.I pretty much quit shopping for anything at WalMart. I have no illusions that the Walton family is going hungry tonight because of the loss of my business, but it makes me feel better.

I suspect the incredible influx of Chinese crap into the USA was started/promoted by WalMart. Some of the WalMarts in rural Indiana quit selling guns. Hard to believe but true.

There are always threads about "which brand of rifle?". Well, I'm sure Tikka and Sako's are superb, but I'm sticking with Savage and Remington. I'm buying American as much as possible. All you guys that buy guns and ammo from Wally World will do it just long enough to drive your local store out, then Wally World dumps the business and you'll be bitching that no one is selling guns and ammo locally.

whm1974
July 14, 2006, 11:32 PM
All you guys that buy guns and ammo from Wally World will do it just long enough to drive your local store out, then Wally World dumps the business and you'll be bitching that no one is selling guns and ammo locally.

Where I live there isn't a gunshop. The nearist one is 18 miles away. So if I want ammo I have to buy at Walmart most of the time.

Gunshops should sell stuff Walmart WILL never sell. Such as AK's and AR-15's. The fact they don't sell handguns helps keep gunshops in business as well.

-Bill

No_Brakes23
July 15, 2006, 01:42 AM
3 WalMarts right here in San Diego still sell ammo. About the only thing I go there for, these days. If I want Chinese made goods, I can get them cheaper at Harbor Freight.

Of course, I am bailing on Cali soon, so I could care less about whether Wally world carries ammo. I only buy the stuff the ranges and local gun stares don't sell anyway, like WWB, and $5 15pk slugs.

bang_bang
July 15, 2006, 02:38 AM
The Wal-Mart in my locale is still selling guns and ammo, I've heard that they will still sell for several years because they are the #1 gun and ammo selling Wal-Mart in the nation. Taking guns out from Wal-Mart around here, they might as well take out the food too.

ugaarguy
July 15, 2006, 02:53 AM
I have to agree with the posters who've stated the reasoning as economic based on store sales of the product. In smaller towns where there is no Academy/Cabela's/Sportsman's Warehouse/Bass Pro close by they can easily outsell the smaller stores. I like my local shops, but they can't compete on wal mart's WWB prices. One has Black Hills 38 reloads I bought before buying my reloading press, the other is a Class III dealer so he definetly has stuff Wal Mart won't touch. The keep selling ammo but not guns policy also makes sense. Ammo is cheap, moves quick, and has huge markup. Guns are the exact opposite. Any gun store owner will tell you that you make your money selling ammo, and accesories, not the guns.

chrisbob
July 15, 2006, 03:37 AM
where I live wal-mart still sells guns and ammo BUT THE LOCAL STORES ,I.E, GUN DEALERS & MOM &POP SHOPS HAVE BEEN DRIVEN OUT BY THE CORPORATIONS! I have to drive 20 miles to buy anything not sold at wal-mart. And that is if it is IN season!



FISHING I KNOW THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH GUNS BUT EVEN THE MOM AND POP BAIT SHOPS ARE GONE . I NEVER THOUGHT WHEN I WAS A KID THAT I WOULD HAVE TO BUY MY LIVE BAIT, AMMO ,BREAD, MILK, RAW, MEAT, AND CAGED PETS FROM THE SAME STORE WHO'S REVENUE SUPPORTS ANOTHER STATE OR COUNTRY!!! :cuss:

I would like to receive any info to further my cause in restoring the rights of citizens and the rights of private retailers to keep these shops open.

No_Brakes23
July 15, 2006, 12:09 PM
I like my local shops, but they can't compete on wal mart's WWB prices.

Our local shops and even our big chain, (Turner's) don't even carry the same stuff Wal-Mart does for the most part. $20 per 100 rounds .45ACP WWB is filthy ammo, but it costs less and functions more reliably than some of the stuff the local guys want to charge me $50 for. I still support the little guys, (Firearms & accy,) when I can, but I ain't running a charity, and I ain't handing out an extra $30 every time I want to go shooting. So I still buy WWB, and some other ammo at Wally World.

But my latest ammo purchase was 00 that I got at Turner's.

UnintendedConsequences
July 16, 2006, 03:25 AM
While I understand the need to buy "cheap" ammo there is a limit and consequence to what you ask for. I will comment about the customers I have in the area of my gunsmithing gun shop here in rural Missouri. My customers generally either reload and never buy any commerically loaded ammo or they are so tight they can turn a penny into a circle the size of a half-dollar and will nickle and dime you to death, throwing the comment in, "I will buy from you as long as you can get sell it cheaper than Wal-Mart."

Don't get me wrong, I understand everyone, even myself, has to watch a budget. I work full time as a reporter for a local weekly newspaper and run my shop right now as an economic sideline until I have business up to the point that I can do it exclusively, though that may not happen.

Alright, to the point. If someone wishes to buy on the cheap, they also cut off their nose to spite their face since if that one cheap place quits selling ammo you may not have a choice but to drive tens of miles to find a small time gun shop because your local shops closed up from not being able to make ends meet through being nickled and dimed down on their prices.

My policy for lower costs is a customer needs to buy at least a case, if not a minimum of five full cases of ammuntion from me to be able to offer a discount that would match the out-the-door price (with the sales tax figured in) someone shopping a Wal-Mart for the same ammunition. Why do I require by the case sales to get the price? It is because for me to afford the acquistion cost of so many types of ammuntion I generally order in bulk quantities that someone wants, but only when they want it. I can't afford to stock every flavor and hope it sells fast enough to cover the bills so I offer a price break on bulk sales.

I will say this though, one customer in particular is nice as can be, but he is the worst nickle and dimer I have ever known. He will only buy if he thinks it is a "steal" not just a reasonable deal. Even with my fair prices I get the same comment of "if you sold it cheaper than Wal-Mart..." from him. I can't please everyone, but if price alone is what drives all your purchases then I would point out that you might get stuck between a rock and a hard place if that one place quits selling the ammo.

Additionally, since I get the Wally World price is better mantra so much, I rarely stock anything that would be found in those stores. I even quit carrying anything their stores begin carrying. This makes it interesting regarding firearms since everyone is looking for the base or basic models for hunting season, but they don't want to pay my fair price because they think they can get it cheaper at a gun show or the Wal-Mart. I don't stock the low end models because of this, but if someone wants to consign one I glady accept it. I focus on the higher end or more promoted models, some of which are so popular they are hard to find due to high demand and short supply.

OldSchooler
July 16, 2006, 08:02 AM
Some interesting comments here. Thanks to all.

I have only a few dealers in my locale, and they charge what really are exhorbitant prices for just about everything. Full MSRP. The competition is almost non existent, and yet they persist. I am sure they have their costs - which ever increase - and I am very much in favor of supporting my local small business. So I try to, by buying something from them whenever I can. So lets put that to rest. I wish I was brave enough to open a competing business...

However, my local WM has my beloved .35 Remington CoreLoks at 12.50$ a box. And they will special order, according to the girl at the counter. My dealer? $22. Im glad my dealer is there, as he does things the WM cannot do - 'smithing, stocking the "goodies," etc. But, Ill take WM at 12.50$ a box.

I hate to see ANYBODY out of the gun business, including Wally. But I recognize WM's position on the issue. In the latest redesign of our WM store, sporting goods was moved to the far corner of the store, while jewelry and womens clothes got front billing. Guess that says something.

Push comes to shove, I can clean my gun with old tshirts and milsurp accoutrements. Hell, I do that anyway. I will go see my dealer frequently and buy some items - but I doubt I'll trade my ammo money with him except at Xmas.

redneck2
July 16, 2006, 08:34 AM
The local dealer here (which has a rather substantial inventory) does not stock 870's. I asked him why. He showed me their cost in a wholesale catalog. It was something like $15 more than WM was selling them for.

As I cruised thru the aisles at WM, you can see that the stuff they sell (at least the stuff I'd buy) is pretty much junk. I'm talking fishing gear, tools, etc.

I guess it's just going to get worse. I suspect gas will be $3.50-$4.00 in a few months. Costs are going to be such that people will not have disposable income and need to pay about all they make just for necessities.

UnintendedConsequences
July 16, 2006, 09:27 AM
I see your all's sides of things as well from the customer viewpoint. This is why I am a gunsmith as the main focus since I know keeping existing firearms working, due to tight finances, makes more sense economically than buying a new firearm. I'd rather make sure a customer's currently owned firearms stay functioning as long as possible since I know many people have just one or two around for just deer and turkey hunting seasons, which also double as home defense. I can also afford to be flexible with payment with my time and can work out trades in exchange for my repair services.

The high costs of shipping, hazardous materials fees (for primers and powder shipped) and similar charges are why I prefer to have customers order in bulk by the case pack. If they order a large quantity I can afford to drive my personal vehicle to my some of my distributors, which range from 1.5 to 2.5 hours away one way, for less cost than all the fees to move their order from the distributor to my shop. I save costs and so does my customers.

Taurus 617 CCW
July 16, 2006, 09:41 AM
I am currently in Alaska and was shocked to find Glocks, Springfield's, and S&W's in the sporting goods section. Not only that, they are for a good price. I guess it depends on the state/market you currently reside in. :evil:

OldSchooler
July 16, 2006, 10:05 AM
I'd rather make sure a customer's currently owned firearms stay functioning as long as possible since I know many people have just one or two around for just deer and turkey hunting seasons, which also double as home defense. I can also afford to be flexible with payment with my time and can work out trades in exchange for my repair services.

The high costs of shipping, hazardous materials fees (for primers and powder shipped) and similar charges are why I prefer to have customers order in bulk by the case pack. If they order a large quantity I can afford to drive my personal vehicle to my some of my distributors, which range from 1.5 to 2.5 hours away one way, for less cost than all the fees to move their order from the distributor to my shop. I save costs and so does my customers.

You, I like. 'Wish you lived 'round here.

OldSchooler
July 16, 2006, 10:06 AM
I am currently in Alaska and was shocked to find Glocks, Springfield's, and S&W's in the sporting goods section.

EEhah! North, to Alaska!

I'd rather make sure a customer's currently owned firearms stay functioning as long as possible since I know many people have just one or two around for just deer and turkey hunting seasons, which also double as home defense. I can also afford to be flexible with payment with my time and can work out trades in exchange for my repair services.

The high costs of shipping, hazardous materials fees (for primers and powder shipped) and similar charges are why I prefer to have customers order in bulk by the case pack. If they order a large quantity I can afford to drive my personal vehicle to my some of my distributors, which range from 1.5 to 2.5 hours away one way, for less cost than all the fees to move their order from the distributor to my shop. I save costs and so does my customers.

You, I like. 'Wish you lived 'round here.

GHF
July 16, 2006, 12:34 PM
What would be the case number break points and - if possible people to contact relative to central Florida - to get the best price for FMJ for practice?

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