[Captal_de_Buch]

It looks as if left wing British MP George Galloway wasn’t the only allied politician on Saddam’s payroll. Anti-Bush loudmouth Jim McDermott, D-Wash has also been sleeping with the enemy. I wonder how may more in the anti-war movement received payoffs?

Link to story (http://www.newsmax.com/showinsidecover.shtml?a=2003/5/1/121213)
Rep. Jim McDermott, D-Wash., who famously traveled to Baghdad last fall and pronounced President Bush a liar, accepted a cash payment less than a month later from an Iraqi-American businessman with ties to Saddam Hussein. McDermott collected the payment from Shakir al-Khafaji, the same Detroit-based Baghdad apologist who paid former U.N. weapons inspector Scott Ritter $400,000 two years ago to make a pro-Saddam documentary about Iraq.

Link to story (http://www.mrc.org/realitycheck/2003/fax20030430.asp)
In the May 5 Weekly Standard, Stephen F. Hayes summarized the story and added that American politicians also received cash: Rep. Jim McDermott, so memorably featured from Baghdad attacking President Bush as a liar last fall on ABC’s This Week, accepted $5,000 for his legal defense fund from Shakir al-Khafaji, a Saddam supporter (and contractor with the Ba’athist regime) who arranged his Baghdad trip. Where are the national media on this developing storyline?[/URL]

Link to story (http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/002/605fgcob.asp)
On October 25, McDermott received a check for $5,000 from Shakir al-Khafaji. The money, first reported by Amy Keller in Roll Call, had been deposited in an account for the McDermott Legal Expense Trust, a fund the congressman set up to pay legal bills in a lawsuit brought against him by Rep. John Boehner.

(edited by sven to fix URLs)

[UnknownSailor]

Ya need a close URL there, buddy.

*edit*
NM, they are 3 different links.

[Standing Wolf]

Why am I not even 1% surprised?

[HBK]

So are they gonna kick his *** out of congress, perhaps prosecute him for treason or what?

[Sergeant Bob]

So are they gonna kick his *** out of congress, perhaps prosecute him for treason or what?

If they raise enough of a stink about it, he'll just give the money back and "POOF", it didn't happen!:fire:

[CZ-75]

I'm volunteering for the firing squad, though that and hanging are too good for him.

[HBK]

I'm serious, the guy committed treason and should be treated like it.

[Wildalaska]

Of course all you fine American treason yellers, hangers and shooters simply forget about the presumption of innocence...

OOps I forgot, his politics are not your favorite, ergo he is guilty...

Now of course, if it was a pro gun Republican, it would be media slander....

WildidlaughititwasntsopatheticAlaska

PS: If allegations are correct indict him and try him toot sweet (sorry I refuse to type real French). If guilty, punish him according to law.

[El Tejon]

Anyone have the e-mail address for the USA of his side of Washington or DC's USA???

[Sir Galahad]

Yeah, Wild Alaska! He was just "holding" that money for them so they didn't spend their rent money in a shopping binge at Dillards.:rolleyes: That shows what a nice guy he really is. That he would offer to hold that money for them to make sure they paid their bills instead of buying expensive shoes in an impulse buy. He ought to get a medal for that selfless concern for his fellow man! Or maybe they all had a big poker game and he won it. Yeah, that's it! He won it fair and square in poker! Everyone knows what a cardsharp McDermott is, right? No, wait, he sold his vintage Happy Meal toy collection to them. Yeah, that's it! :rolleyes:

[HBK]

Nice try with the spin there, Wild Alaska. The thing is, pro gon republicans usually don't take money from our enemies. They also don't usually try to turn our country into a socialist state but that's an argument for another day.

[WR Olsen]

If you think that accepting money is bad for a Congress critters future you forget that we have the best Congress that money can buy. The local media has had nothing to say about this allegaton and has, in fact, not reported on it.

Rep. McDermott is the guy who released the tape of a political phone call by Newt Gingrich and nothing was ever done to punish him for that bit of illegal activity.

[Sir Galahad]

No, no, no...he was just HOLDING the money! He was going to give it back! Honest! Or was that the Happy Meal toy collection money? Or was it traitor pay-off money? OOPS! Who said that?! Not true! He was going to give it back. Ask them! They'll tell you it was for their rent!

[Wildalaska]

Nice try with the spin there, Wild Alaska. The thing is, pro gon republicans usually don't take money from our enemies.

And if or when one does or did, Id same the same thing...innocent till proven guilty...

Unfortunately, many here selectively apply well settled constitutional rights for only "friends" not enemies...

WildillneverbeahypocriteAlaska

[HBK]

Can't argue with that logic, but isn't it a fact that he took money from a country we considered an enemy? I'm all for innocent until proven guilty, but if it is a fact, then he is guilty. If that's true, he's a traitor, if it's not, it's not.

[Wildalaska]

but isn't it a fact that he took money from a country we considered an enemy? I'm all for innocent until proven guilty, but if it is a fact, then he is guilty. If that's true, he's a traitor, if it's not, it's not.

Well then let the numbnuts be tried in a Court first...not in the newspaper...before we "hang " him.

Everytime the news reports abbout some "crime" involving a gun dealer, howls of indignation go up here about the lack of journalistic integrity..just becasue some newstwerp reports somehting does not make it true....

Maybe a prefacing of the more idiotic comments about hanging and shooting with the simple words "Wow, if he is tried and convicted...." would make the tenor of this Board a bit more mature...

WildtakethehighroadAlaska

[HBK]

So my original suggestion that he be prosecuted for treason...would that not require a trial? Do I have to lay out every piece of the judicial process or can I trust that most people reading posts know how the judicial process works?

[Wildalaska]

So my original suggestion that he be prosecuted for treason...would that not require a trial? Do I have to lay out every piece of the judicial process or can I trust that most people reading posts know how the judicial process works?

Your original post was:

"I'm serious, the guy committed treason and should be treated like it."

That follows right after the cries of hang em high started...evidently you meant more than agreeing with the hanging sentiments....

WildgladtoseeyousharemyviewsAlaska

[Sir Galahad]

Pardon me, Wild Alaska, but you're on one hand signing off as "wild'takethehighroad'alaska" then on the other calling someone on here a de facto idiot by calling their comments in their posts "idiotic". To say nothing of calling the "maturity" of said remarks into question. Hardly consistant, sir. Stone casting, anyone?

[DonQatU]

From the Newsmax article: McDermott proclaimed, "The president of the United States will lie to the American people in order to get us into this war."

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Well...... did the President lie in order to get us into this war??!

Don

[HBK]

Wrong! Check again buddy, about three posts ABOVE that one. And "treated like it" means prosecuted thanks.

[hammer4nc]

A mature response would be to take the firing squad comment for what its worth. Casting generalized aspersions on fellow THR members as pathetic, idiotic, hypocrites, sets the mark for not following the "high road" ethic in this thread. What's with the flaming?

Back on topic, Jim McDermott used his "get out of jail free" card to win a dismissal of the lawsuit filed over the Gingrich illegal phone tap, which McD leaked to the press. Even judge Hogan, who dismissed the case,reamed Mcdermott for lack of ethics...

Hogan continued to criticize McDermott who, "successfully located and exploited the loopholes" in Florida and federal law. "It is unfortunate that a United States representative, who had chosen a position that supposedly illuminated him as a beacon of ethical behavior, should so eagerly seek to capitalize on the skullduggery of would-be party operatives to win petty, partisan victories in the press," said Hogan.


Anyone wondering why McDermott maintains a legal defense account for a case that was dismissed 5 years ago? Add to that his Baghdad tour last fall, after which he said: "The president of the United States will lie to the American people in order to get us into this war." Moments later, despite 12 years of evidence that the Iraqi regime had lied about its weapons program, McDermott said, "I think you have to take the Iraqis on their face value."

I can connect the dots on this guy...but I'll listen to exculpatory evidence, from anyone who feels so compelled to come to the defense of Rep. Mcdermott. Your turn, WA.

[DonQatU]

I'm not defending Jim McDermitt. But, THEY (the neocons) wouldn't dare trying to bring treason charges against him!

McDermott's statement , "The president of the United States will lie to the American people in order to get us into this war." ...would also be examined ....... and VERY closely!

DID the president lie to get us into this war???!!

Don

[HBK]

I'm thinking no. I'm sure everyone has an opinion though.

[DonQatU]

Looks bad for the president on the "lying for the war" issue right now!

Don

[Wildalaska]

A mature response would be to take the firing squad comment for what its worth.

O really? Whats it worth then..tell me how you feel about people publically calling for the execution of some one who has been accused OF NOTHING in a Court of law..

Perhaps when you are on this Board a little longer you to will be sick of the cries for violence and execution we get over and over again here...as far as I am concerned such statements are pathetic and idiotic....

I can connect the dots on this guy...but I'll listen to exculpatory evidence, from anyone who feels so compelled to come to the defense of Rep. Mcdermott. Your turn, WA.

I'm not defending him, I think he is a first rank numbskull. As far as I am concerned he doenst even belong in Congress, but thats the fault of his constituents who I hope are embarrased by his silly antics. That being said, he's still entitled to his day in Court like every other American. Try him and convict him, the body politic will proceed very nicely without him.

WildbutgivehimthesameconsiderationyouwouldgiveothersAlaska

[Sir Galahad]

Sirtiredof holierthanthouonlyIhaveanopinionofworthandtherestofyouareimmatureidiotsespeciallyallyounewbiesontheforumGalahad:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[HBK]

Let me think, we haven't even searched the entire country yet, there is a STRONG possibility a lot of the stuff got fettered out into Syria and god knows what other terrorist haven nations, and you are already judging Bush to be a liar. Give it time.

[DonQatU]

Let me think, we haven't even searched the entire country yet, there is a STRONG possibility a lot of the stuff got fettered out into Syria and god knows what other terrorist haven nations, and you are already judging Bush to be a liar. Give it time.

And the "Intel" that WMDs were being exported into Syria came from where?

OK! Let's give it time! BUT..... let's NOT forget the ORIGINAL question! PROOF of Iraqs further DEVELOPEMENT of WMD since 1991???!!!

A victorious war against Syria would best be timed JUST before the next elections!

Watching the economy too!

Don

[HBK]

I'm not going to start a holy war over it, especially since I have no information to back up my beliefs. I believe Bush is a good man.

[DonQatU]

I'm not going to start a holy war over it, especially since I have no information to back up my beliefs. I believe Bush is a good man.

I hope so too! But ALWAYS check for TRUTHFULLNESS and ACCURACY!

Don

[ahadams]

he thinks that somehow, because he, or at least the people he *chooses* to believe, have not seen sufficient evidence of a WMD program in Iraq there was no justification to attack the country. If he/they choose to believe that, it's sort of like usamma bin ladin choosing to believe his false god is on his side, even as he is in whatever his current situation might be, which is undoubtedly uncomfortable. I'd suggest that the best result for usamma is for him to be hunted down and his case resolved by special operations folks; and for dqt that he, and his fellow egomaniacs be ignored - in both cases it's the one thing they believe will never happen.:neener: :neener: :neener:

[DonQatU]

ahadams, PROOF that WMDs/ or development of same found since 1991? Don

[CZ-75]

Treason is a capital offense, hence the man can be executed for it when he has been ajudicated guilty. I would volunteer at such point.

Nice try, spinning it as though we're calling for a lynch mob.




SteveboyamIdenseCochran :rolleyes:

Perhaps you should stick to bad-mouthing your competitors with scurrilous comments about their merchandise.

[Justin]

Closed before it turns into a real nasty mud slingin' and 'My God can beat up your God' fight.