CZ 75 Compact questions
skers69
July 25, 2006, 03:44 PM
I have decided that the cz75 compact will be my ccw gun. I see Impact guns has some good prices. Any other dealers I should be looking at? Also, I am not sure If I want the de-cocker model or not....so any pros or cons from the cz fans would be great. How are the grips? Can I get Hogue grips for the gun? How expensive are extra mags? Any other input would be great.
Thanks
Bob
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HorseSoldier
July 25, 2006, 04:04 PM
I'm extremely happy with my P-01 which is more or less the same as the CZ-75 compact with decocker.
CDNN has 14 round Mecgar mags for under $20.
JDGray
July 25, 2006, 05:39 PM
Another dealer
http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/index.php/cPath/21_82
The factory rubber grips are great, I also like the Hogues, but their not for everyone. The PCR & P01 come with rubber grips, cant go wrong with with any CZ!:)
nwgunslinger
July 25, 2006, 06:24 PM
I thought I'd get the Hogue grips too but I found I like the factory rubber grips just fine. It's an excellent CCW piece, BTW. If I do get new grips for it I'll get the Crimson Laser grips when they're available.
I also use standard CZ-75 16 round mags often. They stick out a little bit but not enough to bother me.
Furncliff
July 25, 2006, 10:02 PM
I recommend : http://www.44mag.com/ For mags. I bought 3 for my cz75b they were very inexpensive and all work great.
http://www.44mag.com/images/pm-mag08.jpg
CZ compact blued 10 rd $9.99
Pilot
July 25, 2006, 10:50 PM
I use the CZ-75D PCR for CCW and range work. Great, lightweight alloy, compact hi-cap pistol. Very accurate and reliable.
modifiedbrowning
July 25, 2006, 11:12 PM
Keep in mind that the CZ-75 Compact has a steel frame while the PCR (with the decocker) has an aluminum frame, so it will be easier to carry.
CZguy
July 25, 2006, 11:27 PM
For CCW the PCR is (arguably) the best.
It has a light weight frame and a de-cocker.
The compact is a wonderful pistol but a little heavier, and has a safely.
The PO-1 is a excellent duty pistol, but has a bulbous nose to accommodate the accessory rail.
Have you considered the RAMI ?
aubie515
July 25, 2006, 11:47 PM
I have the compact and P-01...both good pistols...get the rubber grips from CZUSA if you go with the compact.
12 Volt Man
July 26, 2006, 12:03 AM
You can use Hogue grips on a CZ compact, but they require some creative modification. They don't make any specific for the Compact, so you have to buy the full size ones and cut them down.
Steelharp
July 26, 2006, 01:09 AM
I love my CZ compact. I really like the "old world" feel it has; I like the weight of the steel frame, as well. When I feel like CCW with a 9, that's the one I grab.
308nato
July 26, 2006, 01:13 AM
I bought the CZ-rami about 3weeks ago and have put about 300 rds
through it .It fits my hand very well. when I go for my ccl thats the one I
will carry .you can get it in 9mm ,40 s&w or 45.
comes with 2 10 rd mags in 9 mm.
skers69
July 26, 2006, 09:40 AM
I have considered the Rami and P-01. I do not like the rail on the p-01. The Rami is to small for me. I am a good size guy with big hands. My grip swallows up the rami. Thanks for the info on the mags and grips. I have a de-cocker on my p-226 so I may go that way to keep things similar on my ccw gun. As far as weight gos...according to the specs the p01 is 1.71 lbs. The compact is 2.06 lbs. That should not make that big of a difference to me.
I see the PCR listed in the specs but did not find a pic of that gun. I will go the the cz web site and check it out.
12 Volt Man
July 26, 2006, 10:00 AM
Sounds like you might want to go with the PCR. It has an alloy fram like the P-01, a little different sights, and a trigger that is shaped a little different than the P-01. No accessory rail. It does have a decocker.
http://www.gunshopfinder.com/CZ/cz75dpcr.jpg
armoredman
July 26, 2006, 10:58 AM
The PO1 is touted as having improved metallurgy than the PCR, but the PCR was certainly tough enough to win Czech National Police approval. The PO1 reportedly has a forged alloy frame as opposed to the PCRs' cast alloy frame.
Cast or forged, I have both the PCR and the PO1, and both are outstanding pistols, reliable, durable, and accurate.
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b13/armoredman/PCRPO12.jpg
The CZ-75 Compact is a steel frame pistol, is also available in 40 SW - but the .40 comes with the M3 rail. The major differance is the Compact is traditional CZ DA, cocked and locked, or half cock carry. I prefer the half, where the decocker on my two drop it.
I carry the PO1 every day, IWB and OWB and the M3 rail doesn't bother me in the slightest. A good holster will remove that complaint.
Grips...well, I can't help you there.
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b13/armoredman/Hakanposter.jpg
I will say the original rubber grips on the PO1/PCR do work quite well, better than the plastic. Still have one original
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b13/armoredman/czilentnight.jpg
The 14 round mags can be slightly difficult to find, and more expensive than say, 1911 mags, but I even found one rare one marked LE only from the ban era...no Compacts were adopted by an LE agency during that time.
The RAMI is a good solid pistol, one my wife loves.
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b13/armoredman/Newavatar.jpg
With the extended 14 round mag, it becomes very easy to shoot, and still conceals well.
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b13/armoredman/czsurefire1.jpg
After all is said and done, maybe this expresses it best....
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b13/armoredman/choiceschoices.jpg
skers69
July 26, 2006, 11:20 AM
CZ75 D Compact is the PCR. Alloy frame. Rubber grip. De-cocker. I want, I want, I want. Can not find anyone with any in stock.
HorseSoldier
July 26, 2006, 11:50 AM
I think the PCR's slide is marked "CZ 75D Compact" versus "CZ 75 Compact" indicating it's the decocker version. You might want to look at the CZ Forum, as there is at least one thread over there dealing with variation in slide markings and such (different marketing strategies in Europe and the US apparently mean the same pistol may be marked differently here or there).
jlbraun
July 26, 2006, 12:41 PM
For the magazines, ask CZ. They make really nice Compact magazines with rubber baseplates. Helps during speed reloads - steel bases hurt!
click-rip-insert-SMACK("ow!")-rack.
Steelharp
July 27, 2006, 08:23 AM
Is there a compact model without the rail, with the C&L option (safety), with a lightweight frame?
skers69
July 27, 2006, 09:22 AM
The CZ2075 RAMI is sub-compact with the alloy frame and safety...no rail. The cz p-01 is alloy frame, rail, de-cocker. the cz75 compact is steel frame. the cz75 d pcr compact is alloy frame, decocker, no rail.
You may be able to request special features on your cz. I would contact them and find out.
Walt Sherrill
July 27, 2006, 07:16 PM
There is also a CZ-75 Compact in .40 which has the same frame as the P-01 (accessory rail), but in steel, with a safety rather than decocker.
GAC
July 28, 2006, 09:50 PM
I've had a PCR and used it as a carry gun when I lived in Arizona. The PCR is a great pistol.
I have one 14 round magazine that I used when the gun was holstered. The 14 rounders are difficult to find but 16 rounders are not and would be good spares.
Buck Nekkid
July 29, 2006, 01:38 AM
Of course, on a slightly different tangent, there is the VERY ACCEPTABLE CZ 40P--a compact, alloy framed, steel slide, decocker, with accessory rail in .40 S&W.
As stated above CZhoices, CZhoices!
GAC
July 29, 2006, 04:37 PM
The CZ .40 that was the result of a partnership with Colt was really neat. had a 1911 still grip angle and, I think, a single stack magazine. What was the model number of that one? CZ40? Or, was it the 40P?
Walt Sherrill
July 29, 2006, 07:57 PM
The gun was the Colt Z-40. It was originally designed for the US LEO market, but Colt got cold feet. It was pure CZ, except for the grip angle (and a slightly different barrel lock up design.) Standard CZ double-stack mags work.
About 900 or so Colt guns were produced and sold in the US. They've got a small collector's value. They were DAO with very, very nice triggers.
The 40B was the same gun, with a CZ rollmark and DA/SA and a safety. It was originally sold for under $300, and one heckuva bargain.
The 40P was supposedly offered to use up leftover 40B slides; it had the P-01 alloy frame and the 40B slide. The frame had to be tweaked to do it, and the slides won't work on a standard P-01 frame. CZ now seems to be offering the 40P as new production guns.
sdacbob
July 31, 2006, 05:55 AM
The stock rubber grips on my PCR are fine. I have one 14rd mag and 2 10rd mags as spares. Full size CZ 75 15 rd mags also fit but hang down.
Steelharp
July 31, 2006, 07:21 AM
Will the 14 rd mags I have for my 75 Compact fit a PCR flush as well?
Seven High
July 31, 2006, 07:58 AM
CDNN has high capacity magazines for CZ compact 9mms from time to time. They are Mecgar brand. $17.99. They work real well. :)
Walt Sherrill
July 31, 2006, 09:59 AM
Compact mags will fit all of the "compact" CZ that are based on the 75B interchangeably.
Many of us use Pro-Mag (that ugly word) 75b Compact .40 mags in the 9mm guns, as they work fine, and hold 14 rounds of 9mm. (These are the ONLY Pro-Mags I recommend to folks, but they've done these mags right.) They won't work in the oldest compact CZs, however, as those guns have tighter mag wells.
I've never seen any true factory (14 or 13 round) Compact CZ mags on CDNN, and I check there all the time. All of us on the CZ Forum are constantly looking for them...
Full-size hi-caps will work in the compact guns, but won't fit flush. They'll stick out an extra 1/2" or so.
GAC
July 31, 2006, 02:13 PM
I just checked the CDNN website. They do have Mec-Gar compact 14 rounders now, for $17.99. First time I have seen any standard capacity CZ magazines there.
skers69
July 31, 2006, 02:45 PM
What is CDNN? Can you post a link to that site?
mdao
July 31, 2006, 04:04 PM
www.cdnninvestments.com
Just picked up four of the 14 round mags myself.
DirksterG30
August 1, 2006, 12:50 PM
These are the mags that I have found to work in the CZ P-01/PCR/75 Compact.
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y217/dirksterg30/CZs/variousP-01PCRmags.jpg
I believe you can also use the 19-rd SP-01 mags as well.
HorseSoldier
August 1, 2006, 01:57 PM
SP-01 mags will fit into the P-01 etc, yes. CZ's other monster high cap 9mm (Sport Tactical? or something like that) will not, if I'm not mistaken (and may be -- I have an SP-01 and P-01, but haven't seen the other model).
Walt Sherrill
August 1, 2006, 02:37 PM
Any fullsize 75 mags will fit in a compact version of the 75 (CZ) -- they just won't fit fllush. (The 40P is based on the 75 design, even the 40B can use standard CZ mags -- only the base plate is different. The SP-01 and the P-01 are 75s: 75B SP-01, and 75B P-01.)
The larger (fullsize mags) are excellent backup/carry mags. Put a smaller one in the gun, and carry the fullsize mag on your belt.
(The 40P mag shown in the photo above is a full size mag with a cosmetic baseplate added to make it look like an extension of the grip.)
The Pro-Mag CZ-75B Compact .40 mag works well and fits flush, and when used in a 9mm gun, holds 14 rounds. This is the only Pro-Mag I recommend. Many of us on the CZ-Forum use this particular Pro-Mag and have done so for several years with good results.
skers69
August 4, 2006, 10:01 AM
I ordered the cz 75 d compact pcr. Shipped it next day air so I should get it today. I am waiting on the call from the dealer that handled the ffl for me. I will be leaving work early today to pick up my new gun. I can not wait to get my hands on the gun so I can break it down and give it the first cleanning. I plan on going to the range on Saturday to test her out. Range report will follow.
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