"Slicking" Rossi 92 Action for CAS & Such


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jjohnson
July 31, 2006, 08:39 AM
Hi, Guys!

I have a pair of Rossi 92 carbines, maybe 10 years old (I guess they've gone through changes in machining and whatnot) that are essentially new guns. They seem to be well made, even if the levers rattle a little, though they are "rough" in the action.

I was wondering what I might do as a tinkerer to smooth the actions a little. (I'm not talking GRINDING here, maybe polishing a little). Anybody slick one up for Cowboy Action or something? Neither of these came with disassembly instructions. I'm pretty good at firearms assembly, cleaning, disassembly, and do parts replacement, so I'm not an absolute beginnner, but lever guns are new to me.

I'd like to take the things apart, get the old gunk out of them, polish up what's necessary so I get smooth lockup and fix those awful triggers if I can, and put them back together with a little proper lubrication.

Any suggestions on what I might need to do? Websites? Detailed disassembly instsructions? Any and all help is appreciated. Thanks! :D

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mrmeval
July 31, 2006, 09:17 AM
All you should need. I have not done this nor do I own one. I just have good google foo.

http://www.carolinacowboys.us/DepGene/TheRossi92.htm

Springs
http://www.brownells.com/aspx/ns/store/productdetail.aspx?p=1577

Sistema1927
July 31, 2006, 09:29 AM
I just received my .45 Colt Rossi 92 back from Steve Young (http://www.stevesgunz.com) and it is hard to imagine that it is the same gun.

Very much slicker (if that is a word) and much faster than before with perfect feed and ejection. I even tried bullets seated at different depths, and it doesn't seem to care.

Well worth the wait, and the price wasn't bad either.

jjohnson
July 31, 2006, 10:15 AM
Wow, thanks, guys! Since this is the "first pass" on unaltered carbines, before I send it off for professional work I want to have a shot at it first myself. Mrmeval probably already saved my skin with the instructions in the link about what NOT to do! And THAT was what I was looking for, 'cause I do pack an unregistered mototool and know what THAT means in the hands of a guy who likes to tinker.

I'm also looking for tips from the CAS boys on stuff to keep things slick like proper lube. Right now, I'm using Brownell's own mix of teflon (this stuff is pink and acts like military LSA) and Brownell's Action Grease. I KNOW you CAS folks have ideas and tips to share... so thanks in advance!!!:D

mrmeval
July 31, 2006, 11:04 AM
Anything to keep from removing metal is good. :) Brownells has good stuff.
Lube? There's a thread on that with as many opinions as ... as air molecules.

I like Ed's Red for cleaning and CLP for followup on everything I have though I do use a spot of swiss grease on the K31. I'm also looking for period grease for a Webley Mark VI. I would pre-treat the firearm according to CLP's directions.

I did find Rangoon Oil, used on older British firearms. Mostly of interest for period reenactors though I've heard good things about it but have not tried it yet.
http://www.woodcockhill.com/Toys.htm
http://cgi.ebay.com/Rangoon-Oil-by-Holland-and-Holland-The-Very-Best-Oil_W0QQitemZ7209974580QQcategoryZ22700QQcmdZViewItem

roo_ster
July 31, 2006, 11:44 AM
jjohnson:

Rest assured that Rossi 92s can be slicker than greased owl scat through a tin horn.

My wife's .44mag 92 was a CAS shooter's rig until he went "more authentic" and got a 73 repro in a more cowboy-ish caliber.

Her 92 is the slickest lever gun I have ever, uh, levered. I don't know if he ever sent it off or if it was just the thousands of lead .44spcl or .44russians he sent downrange.

Second* thing I did was download parts & disassembly diagrams & disassmbled it. Friend, if you have not dis-assembled a lever before, you are in for it! A very elegant design, but nothing familiar to my bolt guns & semi-autos. It took me one evening to dis-assemble, clean, & lube...and a week of evenings to put it together again! Patience and a willingness to walk away and come back tomorrow are required. I did not modify the action in any way, other than cleaning & lubing it. No need to gild a lily.

I use CLP on its innards & lemon oil on its exterior. It cleans up easily, even after shooting lead, as my Trail Boss relaods are clean.

* First thing I did was buy some .44mag ammo, load 'er up, crank the lever, & promptly jam the cartridge on the accumulated lead in the chamber, making it un-fireable. A home-made Outers Foul Out got the lead out.

ball3006
July 31, 2006, 11:49 AM
Rossi and it is like warm butter now..........chris3

jjohnson
July 31, 2006, 12:03 PM
Hey, smart idea on downloading diagrams before disassembly. I got some written instructions from another poster (THANKS!) but if you have a website I can download diagrams from before I get the first one all apart on my kitchen table, my wife will thank you :D Thanks, guys!

roo_ster
July 31, 2006, 01:20 PM
Don't do it on the kitchen table.

Do it where you can leave it be for a week an dnot lose parts. It took me 14 hours to get it back together. Granted, I was patient and took my time, careful not to force things. There are innumerable little tricks to getting it together which must be discovered by trial & error.

Here is the dis-assmbly & parts diagram website:
http://leverguns.com/articles/taylor/field_strip.htm
From the web page:
Assembling the bolt, ejector, and lever can be a tough job.

Good luck!

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