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MyRoad
August 2, 2006, 08:45 PM
It seems the general consensus is that 7.62.x54R is roughly equivalent to a 30.06.

What is 7.62x39 roughly equivalent to?

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rangerruck
August 2, 2006, 08:47 PM
30 waters, 257 roberts, some say 30.30, 300 savage.

MyRoad
August 3, 2006, 12:11 AM
thanks for the reply -

I know people hunt deer with SKS's, and I was wondering how 7.62x39 fit in compared to the calibers I most often hear about as "perfect" deer cartriges -- 30/30, .270, etc.

I have an AK, but I wouldn't want to hunt with it. But since I "stock" 7.62x39, the CZ 527 Carbine looks interesting...
http://www.cz-usa.com/data/productimg/main015.png

ugaarguy
August 3, 2006, 12:21 AM
My buddy, who shoots 03 Springers and M1 Garands in High Power matches, rates 7.62x54R as a bit hotter than 30-06, and he knows the -06 as well as anyone I know. 7.62x39 ballistically is almost identical to 30-30, and with its pointed bullets it quickly begins to beat the 30-30 as distance gets beyond 200 yds.

DoubleTapDrew
August 3, 2006, 01:00 AM
What kind of ammo selection is there for that caliber? Isn't most of it steel cased russian ammo? I know Wolf has a thick copper jacket that is pretty horrible for expansion, not sure if it ever fragments (which you definitely don't want in something you plan to eat). I use soft points for hunting and recovered a bullet from a deer last season, nice mushrooming and retained weight.
That's a good looking rifle. If it's a shooter and they make ammo that'll work good then I'd say go for it!

OldSchooler
August 3, 2006, 01:59 AM
roughly equivalent to .30-30. Was never intended to be a powerhouse, merely effective out to 100 meters or so.

The case is a smallish case, but allows plenty of room to explore handloading and that is going to be the best and higest use of the thing IMHO. Another round that reminds me of this is the .35 Remington. Loaded to silly low pressure levels, it can be bettered handily with handloading. Ditto the short Russian.

MyRoad
August 3, 2006, 02:08 AM
There's actually a pretty good range of American made soft point ammo in 7.62x39. There's also some hollow point around - I know I have some Wolf JHP.

Winchester Super X (http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=244739) comes pretty highly recommended.

dfaugh
August 3, 2006, 11:31 AM
roughly equivalent to .30-30.

This is the most common comparison. However, with equal weight bullets, the 7.62x39 will have a significantly lower velocity. However, in real world, practical terms (say as a short range "brush" gun for deer,) they're roughly equivalent in utility.

OldSchooler
August 4, 2006, 12:03 AM
However, with equal weight bullets, the 7.62x39 will have a significantly lower velocity.
Absolutely correct. The Short Russioan carries a 125-130 gr bullet at something like 2300-2500 fps. The .30-30 carries a 150 gr bullet at about 2200-2300 fps.
If the Russian were loaded with 150 grain bullets, there would b less room in the case and thus less powder. Lower velocities would be the result.

Again, it wasnt intended to be a powerhouse. Merely functional out to 100 meters, + or -

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