[6.5 MPC Advo]

Hello, High Roaders-

For those of you who have (or haven't) heard of the proprietary new round being released by SSK Industries, called the 6.5 MPC (Multi-Purpose Cartridge), here is a link (below my signature) where you can learn more, and if desired read the magazine article that largely got all the buzz:scrutiny: started. Please support Harris Publications by purchasing the issue of Special Weapons For Military and Police (good 'til Nov) at your local newsstand (6.99/US) if they carry it, and request it if they don't.

Information on it is still pretty scarce, but the basics are there for those
wanting a brief introduction to 6.5mm MPC for the AR, and others to follow.
Drop me a line here or over there for more on this exciting development in
the world of firearms.

http://www.harrisoutdoorgroup.com/specialweapons.html

Good reading!;) -

[Ol` Joe]

Are you talking about the 6.5 Grendel? It has been around the target circuit awhile....ammo is available from Wolf.
http://www.65grendel.com/faq.htm

[6.5 MPC Advo]

Joe said: >Are you talking about the 6.5 Grendel?

Hello, Joe-

NO!No!No!:banghead:

Grendel is spelled g-r-e-n-d-e-l, MPC is spelled m-p-c:confused: . They only
share the 6.5mm, nothing else is the same-totally seperate cartridges; two different companies. Please read the link(s), before making assumptions.

Thanks For Sharing-
Dar

[jonnyc]

Another 6.5/6.8 Holy Grail: 6.5 Grendel, 6.8 SPC, 6.5 MPC, etc. They all have benefits and might be great rounds, but until the US Army agrees, you ain't gonna see a whole lotta ammo out there for any of them. All are available in equally limited quantities.

[6.5 MPC Advo]

Hello, jonnyc-
As I mentioned to Joe, did you even READ:what: the info on the MPC?, because you list the (3)
as if they are all equally user-friendly and fail to mention the fact that the MPC is the ONLY ONE that requires the user (civilian or military) to merely change barrels to make the switch, rather than the upper/bolt/magazines like the other two.

The ammunition supply will soon be addressed by Mr. Jones at SSK and other aftermarket companies, I'm sure, as the word gets out, because it is in his (and their) best (economic) interest to do so. Also, in regard to this, remember the MPC is again the only one of the three whose casing is based on the .223/5.56 NATO, rather than the 7.62 Russian (Grendel) or .30 Remington [a now-defunct cartridge] (6.8).

Guys, please quit comparing apples to pears, and stick with apples to apples.;)

Regards-
Dar

[Creeping Incrementalism]

Are you talking about the 6.5 Grendel?

Hello, Joe-

NO!No!No!

Grendel is spelled g-r-e-n-d-e-l, MPC is spelled m-p-c

So are you talking about the Grendel?

The only 6.5 I saw on the magazine is about the Grendel.

[jonnyc]

Mr. MPC, I did read it, and I stick by everything I said. Did you read, and understand my post? You want to reform cases...fine. You want to buy and reload the other two VERY LIMITED-PRODUCTION calibers...fine, but...

"they all have benefits and might be great rounds, but until the US Army agrees, you ain't gonna see a whole lotta ammo out there for any of them. All are available in equally limited quantities."

Many agree the .223/5.56 is less-than-perfect, but your 6.5MPC is just another in a line of potential solutions. Time will tell which of the three, or four, or five, etc., will dominate and become available in enough quantity to justify significant consumer investment in new rifles, uppers, or barrels.

[Glock Glockler]

http://img206.imageshack.us/my.php?image=enchim9.jpg

I wonder what would happen if they used the propellants in this modified 5.56 round, maybe they'd be able to get better than Grendal ballistics in the 5.56 case.

[270Win]

Was the original post a heads-up... or an ad? "Exciting development in the world of firearms"??

Also... surprising rudeness for someone with ~5 posts, trying to get people to spend money on some magazine.

No thank you...

[berettashotgun]

Rude,crude, and generally socially unacceptable. Normally describing ME, but that's how I thought the dude came across.

[Wes Janson]

I dunno, I can understand the guy's frustration with people not reading before posting. It would be like starting a thread titled "Hey guys, who's a fan of the .45 ACP?" and having a bunch of SASS fans post "You mean the .45 Colt?" while the Glockers post "You mean the .45 GAP?".

I've read the article on the 6.5 MPC that was printed recently, and I'm intrigued. I'm curious as to what the operating pressures are, however. But if it actually does perform as advertised, then it certainly looks like it would be a more enticing proposal for the bean-counters.

[Outlaws]

Am I the only one that read this thread and immediately thought "Spam"?

[Ol` Joe]

Joe said: >Are you talking about the 6.5 Grendel?

Hello, Joe-

NO!No!No!

Grendel is spelled g-r-e-n-d-e-l, MPC is spelled m-p-c . They only
share the 6.5mm, nothing else is the same-totally seperate cartridges; two different companies. Please read the link(s), before making assumptions.

Sorry, I must have missed it when I looked...:scrutiny:

I just went back to your link and the only "6.5" cartridge I saw listed on the magazine cover or in the ads table of contents that came up, was again, the 6.5 Grendel... with a mention of the 6.8.
If you can show me a "6.5 MPC" at this link without me buying the rag I`m open to looking. Then again these eyes are getting old maybe I miss read it once again......................

[ugaarguy]

No need to buy a gun rag - here's the info from the maker http://www.sskindustries.com/6_5mpc.htm

[.45Guy]

I'll be sure to whiz my money away on a barrel in this new wonder caliber! But first I have to get a 5mm Remington, or a .358 Winchester, or maybe a pistol in .41 AE.:rolleyes: I hope you see where I'm going with this...

[6.5 MPC Advo]

Hello Again, THRers-

Yeah, I've only got 5 posts up, but to call me rude because I'm frustrated people can't follow/properly read provided links is pretty rude on y'alls part, in my view. If those of you who say this is spam will just READ, you'll see that I have no connection to SSK or the magazine (financially or otherwise) and have spent my own limited time and my web talents to try to get the word out about the MPC for those of you who share my interest in firearms.

Hey, if this is how newbies are 'welcomed' on this board, there's a whole lot of other gun shows available on the web for me to go to. There is also always the option to utilize your own computer skills and just put my user name under the "ignore posts" category, and then you won't even have to
read my "rude, spamy, whatever" posts.

To the guy who (rudely) called the SWFM&P a 'rag', he's the same type who'll
go to the local gun shop, ask questions for two hours, and then say 'thanks',
and head over to ____-Mart to buy a gun! Talk about support? for the RKBA
and those who publish (very well done) firearms magazines. I guess he thinks
the writer, paper, ink etc. are all available for free!? Anyway, the entire (word-for-word) text is right there in the link, and it should be obvious that
it a'int talkin' about no Grendel!



I'm done venting now-I MIGHT read the replies to this post.

[270Win]

Thanks for the advice - my ignore list has been incremented by one.

And for the record, it was the manner in which you handled your frustration which was rude.

"NO! No! no!:banghead:" and "Did you even READ:what: " and trying to teach Ol' Joe how to spell MPC... is just plain, old-fashioned rude. Especially since they all had valid points. If you read other posts here, you'll notice a lot of other people find civil ways of expressing frustration.

As an Advocate for this product (the cartridge or the magazine), I'm sure you'll agree you attract more flies with honey than vinegar...!

[Grump]

Oh, yes, I share your frustration with people who reflexively and ignorantly post replies that ask questions which CLEARLY show they didn't put even minimal thought into reading and understanding your post.

grrrr...:fire:

But I have NO TOLERANCE for people arrogantly putting "thoughts" or "words" or ACTIONS into other people's heads or alleged habits, just to criticize them:
To the guy who (rudely) called the SWFM&P a 'rag', he's the same type who'll
go to the local gun shop, ask questions for two hours, and then say 'thanks',
and head over to ____-Mart to buy a gun! Talk about support? for the RKBA
and those who publish (very well done) firearms magazines. I guess he thinks
the writer, paper, ink etc. are all available for free!? Anyway, the entire (word-for-word) text is right there in the link, and it should be obvious that
it a'int talkin' about no Grendel!

You sunk lower than your critics with that one, buddy!:neener: :neener:

You have exactly five more posts to prove yourself, otherwise you're on IGNORE.

Moderators: Don't you dare call this a personal attack--I've observed unfair behavior and called the offender on it without exaggeration and with only fair comment for his own words.

[Grump]

BTW, Folks, it's the link BELOW the poster's signature, as he stated in his first post.

[Taurus 66]

I dunno, I can understand the guy's frustration with people not reading before posting. It would be like starting a thread titled "Hey guys, who's a fan of the .45 ACP?" and having a bunch of SASS fans post "You mean the .45 Colt?" while the Glockers post "You mean the .45 GAP?".

Ah yes, 6.5 MPC Advo means the 6.5 Grendel. Jolly good cartridge. :neener:

[6.5 MPC Advo]

Hello, Fellow THRers-

The High Road? Huh, I wonder if that might be some sort of misnomer...ignore away fellas, it's a free country-why wait for 5 more posts? It only takes a few seconds.

You're welcome, 270.

Later-

[Magnum Wheel Man]

I'm a newbie here, so I won't get into the politics, but seems this cartridge is similar to a whole slug of the old TCU cartridges based on the 223 case...

most similarly to the 6mm TCU ??? of which I have a barrel, dies & loading data for, but not the time to really play with...

[Outlaws]

I still call it spam. All 5 of your posts post before these couple about people being "rude" were all about promoting the 6.5 MPC. ...that coupled with your love of that magazine and the link only equals one thing to those of us with internet experience. Maybe you are not spamming, but it sure looks like it. Sorry if I call you on something wrongly, but you haven't posted to anything outside of this. Maybe you will become a member here and post on other subjects....but then again maybe you won't.

[HorseSoldier]

If Stanley Crist likes 6.5mm MPC I'm inclined to regard it as a bad idea. That guy's been on the wrong side of every argument I've seen his name associated with . . .

[6.5 MPC Advo]

O.K., Outlaw-

If I'm spamming, follow the money-where am I getting any $ for what I posted, and have done in the past several weeks in regard to the MPC? What you're calling spam, I call ENTHUSIASM for a new idea/product that I get no bucks from. I did the same thing when the 6.8 came out, and never was accused of spamming, nor did it ever put one penny in my account. How is that spam?

All my posts have been about the MPC?
Hm-m-m; that might be because that's what my thread was about originally
(before it de-generated to this drivel) and that is what I am most interested
in presently in the realm of firearms. Ya tink?

Do any of you critics of my style or content (which smilies are included on
this THR forum-maybe you should tell the creators you want to ban them!) actually have a pertinent question about the cartridge, company, article etc., or do you just like to gang up on the new members for fun?

Wondering:confused: -

[Magnum Wheel Man]

so... ok ... balistically what is the difference between this "new" cartridge, & a 6mm TCU out of a 16" TC Contender barrel... & couldn't I just rebarrel an AR or equal gun for 6mm 6.5mm 7 mm TCU ???

been a while since I looked at these TC barrels, let alone shot them... I think most of the other wildcats were based on other cases, but I think there are 2-3 others for the 223 case I'm sure I'm forgetting...

[Correia]

Strangely enough, thousands of new members join here every year, and never have an issue. Wonder why?