ruger 10/22 hang-ups


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Superpsy
August 7, 2006, 10:22 AM
I recently bought a new Ruger 10/22 as my plinking gun. I'm using Federal .22 LR ammo. I've been taking it out the last couple of days...On the first day there were maybe two or three failures to properly eject, resulting in misfeeds. After that day I took it, cleaned it out and lubed it up, especially the action. Took it out again yesterday and still had the same problem...this time at least once every 10 rounds or so...I've even tried different mags. I'm going to clean it again tonight.....any suggestions on anything else to do? A buddy of mine said that the gun is still being "broken in"...what do you guys think?

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Bridger
August 7, 2006, 10:40 AM
My 10/22 was perfectly reliable out of the box with Federal 550 rd packs from wal mart. I think it went thousands of rounds without cleaning or extraction errors. I got a few failures to extract during rapid fire (wasting ammo :rolleyes: ) and cleaned it and the issue was resolved. I then installed a Volquartsen extractor and have never had anymore extraction issues.

You might want to try some other brands of ammo first and see what happens.

Owen
August 7, 2006, 11:26 AM
.22's are notoriously picky about ammo. You may want to try one of the other brands of bulkpack ammo first.

Superpsy
August 7, 2006, 04:15 PM
Went out to the range today to try out a different ammo brand. I went with CCI high velocity. A little more expensive than the federal but it was all K-mart had...:) Shot 100 rounds straight and no hang-ups whatsoever. Switched to federal and had failures to eject with the first mag.

Before I went to the range I cleaned and lubed the gun up. Does this little experiment mean that I have to purchase more expensive ammo for a .22? :scrutiny: I think I'm going to experiment with more brands...oh, well...just means lots more shooting in the next few days. :D

Jim Gross
August 7, 2006, 05:40 PM
I have had a 10/22 for about 22 years and I have put thousands of rounds through it. I have found that it is very pickey when it comes to extractions. The CCI minimags work the best for me. When I use the cheaper ammo it will consistently have ejection problems. The CCI's have absoultly no problems. Just thought I would let you know your not the only one with this problem. good luck and good shooting.

Outlaws
August 7, 2006, 05:58 PM
Mine has problems with certain ammo. I don't recall the Federal 550 round bulk packs giving it any problems, but then every gun is different.

Federal Lightning (the red boxes) are aweful though in my 10/22. Won't feed, won't extract, and won't hit anything. Same with Remington Thunderbolts.

jman74
August 7, 2006, 06:01 PM
CCI's or winchester. I've never had any issues with either in my 10/22. If it will cycle the action, the gun works perfect.CCI standard velocity seem to be the most accurate though.

rra_casper
August 7, 2006, 07:09 PM
I've put probably 3,000 rounds through my 10/22 in a year, and Federal Champion bulk-pack seems to be its favorite. However, try to feed that stuff to my dad's 10/22 and you'll spend more time clearing jams than shooting. His likes the AE and Rem Golden Bullet, both of which cause mine to gum up like crazy. I've met a few people who only shoot CCI because that's all their guns will take. Hope you find something cheap and reliable for high-volume ammo-wasting.
Oh, and Win Super-X is a rare treat for my baby. Love that stuff...

ArmedBear
August 7, 2006, 07:14 PM
Mine doesn't care for unplated bullets or American Eagle ammo.

Remington Golden Bullet bulk ammo from Wal-Mart has worked flawlessly in it, and of course a lot of more expensive stuff.

Phenom
August 7, 2006, 07:33 PM
I've seen a 10/22 eat everything reliably except Federal's American Eagle. That stuff is total garbage. Winchester WildCats work wonderfully and cost about $9.00 a brick.

johnsonrlp
August 7, 2006, 09:44 PM
Mine works good with the Rem plated bulk. But then I hate getting lead on my fingers so I only use plated:) I'd try all of the cheap stuff first.

rustymaggot
August 7, 2006, 09:56 PM
both my rugers used to be picky about ammo. i got volquartsen exact edge extractors and both the 10/22 and the mk1 have eaten everything ive fed em.

dmckean44
August 7, 2006, 09:58 PM
I've found that not just the 10/22s but semi-auto 22 LRs in general prefer high velocity ammo. Especially CCI minimags and Remington High velocity.

stdlrf11
August 7, 2006, 10:35 PM
I only shoot high velocity JHPs in my 10/22, and I found that Remington, Federal and some Winchester bulk packs are too dirty. They cause feeding problems after about fifty rounds. If I remember the name correctly, Winchester's Dyna points are my choice when I can find them. If not, I go with CCI or Aquilla. The cheaper the better.

DWARREN123
August 8, 2006, 11:07 PM
Try over at

WWW.RIMFIRECENTRAL.COM

They may have an answer for you.

rangerruck
August 8, 2006, 11:35 PM
the extractor is everything! I thought buying after market parts for rugers was crap. i finally broke down last month and bought my first 10/22. My usual test of 22 's includes using at a minimum 50 diff brands of ammo, in all shapes and weights. After this first test, it only reliably fed 6 rounds, thats it. Mind you I allready had some after market parts, and work. Trigger job, bolt buffer , s.s. take down allen screw, mag release extension, but i had bought or used no after market parts in the action itself. I was seething not to do this. i finally did, and got an exact edge exractor, Volquartzen also makes one. This is the only action part i replaced.
Waalaa! Magic baby! Performed the exact same test again, this past weekend, and only one type of ammo had any problems. Just one. The extractor is no doubt a pain to replace, but it was worth every penny.

KINGMAX
August 9, 2006, 02:17 PM
I have purchased my LAST box of FEDERAL ammo. I have had problems w/ FEDERAL ammo in a Remington 597, Walther P22, and if you can believe it a RUGER 10/22. I went back to REMINGTON in the 550 packs, no problems. The CCI mini-mags and Stingers work well in anything I put them through. I use the Stingers and Mini-Mags for hunting and personal protection rounds. I seldom use them for target. I do carry my P22 for personal protection on some occasions. I like light weight and ease of concealment.

Radjxf
August 10, 2006, 02:08 PM
Often some of the cheapo 22 ammo doesn't have the "oomph" to work the action properly. Also has too much dimensional variance that can cause poor extraction along with the gumminess.
Clean the chamber, make sure the extractor isn't "rounded off" and I used to polish and chamfer my bolts and guide rod when I had a 10/22. Also check that the filler screws or scope mounting screws aren't protruding into the bolt area (maybe that was a 597 issue?). Good luck.

made2cut
August 10, 2006, 02:28 PM
I've been using CCI mini-mag too with good results. Funny how many people have problems with the Federal AE .22 ammo. That is the only stuff I buy for my 9mm and 45 pistols, it's always worked well.

Davo
August 10, 2006, 03:37 PM
Break in and a good cleaning will help. I use federal bulk pack in my 10-22 almost exclusively, and it works fine. When a rifle is new, I will manually cycle it several hundred times and this smooths things up also.
I highly recommend that you look into the VQ exact edge extractor-its not needed, but it improves the reliability of the 10-22 quite a bit, even when the gun is dirty. Since I put one in my 10-22, I have had NO stovepipes.
Id you check out rimfirecentral there are dealers that sell the VQ extractor, and a recoil buffer for about $20, shipping included. I recommend it.

Robereno
August 10, 2006, 03:55 PM
Having the same problem though I haven't had a chance to try all the different combinations of ammo.

Found the extracter at Midway here. (http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=363360)

Doesn't look like it would be too hard of a fix.

MISTER
August 10, 2006, 04:03 PM
Try Wolf Match Target......Very Reliable and won't break the bank either.

Crosshair
August 13, 2006, 03:50 AM
I feed my guns Remington or Winchester brick ammo. None of my autoloaders will reliably feed Federal 22LR ammo. (S&W 22A, 10/22, MKII)

Superpsy
August 14, 2006, 03:40 PM
ordered volquartsen extractor and recoil bolt buffer from WeaponKraft (I'm no no way affiliated with them ) Like I mentioned before I was having extraction probs. I received the parts today...installed them in about 5 minutes, went off to the range and shot until I was tired of wasting ammo I had zero problems... I heartily recommend Weaponkraft and these parts... Now I'm off to shoot something again. :D

Davo
August 14, 2006, 08:05 PM
Glad we could help you out...FYI the VQ extractor aids reliability in the mkII series pistols as well. The buffer is not needed, but it reduces stress on the rifle, especially the reciever. I look at it as cheap insurance.

rustymaggot
August 16, 2006, 09:04 PM
davo,
they work in the mark1 as well. with 300 rounds and absolutely no cleaning we had 1 failure to eject and one failure to chamber(failure to chamber was a first day shooter i took out and he admits he thinks he only let the slide go half way back in then rechambered causing the feed problem) anyway, i think 300 rounds of dirty .22lr with only 2 problems is noteworthy. ammo used was the ultra cheepo stuff. i believe it was thunderbolt or some other thundername.

i use the volquartsen exact edge extractor in both my 10/22 and my ruger mark1. i wish i had goten them years ago.


EDIT: bolt buffers do not keep 10/22's from being damaged. the original steel pin will not damage anything ever. a bolt buffer only avoids the knocking against the pin that feels uncomfy to many shooters. i have documentation of this somewhere but not handy.

foghornl
August 17, 2006, 08:48 AM
A great deal of the fun with .22's of all description is finding the 'best' ammo for YOUR gun.

My 10/22 hates the Remington "Thunderbolts", while my MKII pistol will shoot them OK. Single-Six is fair-to-middlin accurate with the Thunderbolts. Marlin 99 shoots any brand/style of .22LR ammo about equally

Another thing..the Rem Nylon 66 I had as a teen ate anything it was fed except for the Rem "Golden Bullet' HP. Choked on those verytime.

poncaguy
August 17, 2006, 06:59 PM
I have the new 16" Carbine 10-22, it shoots very accurately with the Wal Mart Federals 550's, no malfunctions of any kind........

10-Ring
August 17, 2006, 07:30 PM
Initially, my 10/22 was a load of fun...100% reliable and fantastic accuracy. Now, every session involves the frustration of FTE, FTF...ARGH! :banghead: I've detail stripped it a couple times & cleaned it VERY VERY well and both times the initial shooting session was okay. Now, I dread shooting it and I'm even contemplating a new 22 :banghead: :confused: :(

10 Ring Tao
August 17, 2006, 09:04 PM
Does this little experiment mean that I have to purchase more expensive ammo for a .22? I think I'm going to experiment with more brands...oh, well...just means lots more shooting in the next few days.

No, I don't think remington golden bullet value packs are more expensive. Those have been the best bang for the buck I've had. No gun related failures in my 10/22, AA kit g19, or 22/45.

leftwingliberalweeniehater
November 8, 2006, 07:38 PM
I recently purchased a 10/22 ruger here in NH. Had ejection/cycling issues immediatley. Talked to the smith at the store who suggested I contact ruger in Newport, NH where they manufacture the rifle. I did so and after 10 rounds of boxing with them, I finally got them to see my pov. They repaired the rifle and I still have the issues. Called corporate in CT and they told me that the 10/22 is ammo sensitive and each one is different. You should not use low velocity without question. I cannot use Federal brown box at all. Higher than 10% ejection issues. I can use CCI mini mags and they are great, however they are $$$$ 30- 35 per brick. Remington thunderbolts high velocity for approx $10 per brick are perfect for my rifle. Ruger is no longer the rifle that will accept any ammo as I had been told. Now that all that is resolved I have no problem. Do not need to change out your extractor. Just find the appropriate ammo. High velocity only! From the State of NH soon to be an annex of MA over my dead body!

dispatch55126
November 8, 2006, 07:42 PM
All guns are that way. You can two of the same rifle and it's possible they each will like seperate ammo. Even on an mass production assembly line, there are still differances in the manufacturing that causes this.

Davo
November 8, 2006, 08:42 PM
I recommend you manually cycle your action several hundred times by pulling the bolt back and forth on an unloaded gun, you do not need to pull the trigger. This gives breaking in a head start, and your not wasting money.
Clean your rifle again, noting areas that collect dirt.
Most new 10-22's have hangups for the first several bricks of HV ammo(say 500-2000 rounds), then these problems become much less frequent. Some prefer certain ammo, and usually standard velocity does not work as well as HV
Check your magazines,clean and tension them. They are very important.
The $10 VQ exact edge extractor will take care of most ejection problems, Keep in mind that Ruger will not admit that there are better aftermarket parts out there. This part is not absolutley needed-there are many rifles out there that function fine without it, BUT its cheap insurance that really works.

Master Blaster
November 9, 2006, 09:07 AM
One thing I have not read here is an absolute must for good maintenance and long term reliability.

You need to disassemble the magazines periodically and clean them. The wax coating on the bullets will build up inside the magazines along with some junk from [powder residue. When this happens the bullet noses will drag on the wax build up slowing the feeding from the magazine and causing FTF.
If you have shot a large number of rounds and never cleaned the magazines you will be surprised at the large amount of buildup inside.

You can find directions on rimfire central for the disassembly and reassembly, you need to properly tension the spring as well.

As far as Federal 550 copper plated bulk packs go, I have shot many thousands of rounds of these through two different 10/22s, and I find them to be very reliable and accurate.

Both my 10/22s have aftermarket target bull barrels on them and volquartsen hammers, I have not found it necessary to change the extractor.

When you take the gun appart, you may also want to check the the extractor is centered in the extractor channel, and not rubbing on one side or the other. One of my 10/22s new from the factory had the extractor rubbing on the channel in the barrel and was having some FTE new from the box. This is easy to fix by removing the barrled action from the stock and slightly loosening the barrel clamp (the ones holding the barrel to the receiver) screws and rotating the barrel one way or another very slightly.

NeoCon
November 10, 2006, 12:32 PM
I've had terrible results with Federal in the 10/22. I had the same problem you had. So I tried Federal ammunition in my wife's 10/22 and had the same problem. I've never had trouble from any other brands though!

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