I am so happy my state got an F+ :D


August 7, 2006, 01:59 PM
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August 7, 2006, 02:02 PM
How can WA have a D+ with worse grades than Florida? I think they are picking on Jeb or maybe, they don't know what they are doing????:scrutiny:

August 7, 2006, 02:09 PM
I saw on their website that they have a "Stop the NRA" action-alert mailing list. I am debating signing up for it just so I know what they are trying to do. Kind of an advanced intel on the Brady Bunch:evil:

August 7, 2006, 02:21 PM
I am debating signing up for it just so I know what they are trying to do. Kind of an advanced intel on the Brady Bunch

That's a good idea. I think I will do the same thing.:what:

August 7, 2006, 02:23 PM
Illinois got an A-, go figure.:barf:

August 7, 2006, 02:24 PM
You Florida boys got beat by sweet home Alabama! F!

August 7, 2006, 02:30 PM

Crap, we've got a C!

I will not stop until we have an F-!


But hey, I just learned that you must be a minimum of 12 years old and buy a long gun here.

Looks like it's party time when I go to the Dixie Gun & Knife Classic next weekend!

August 7, 2006, 02:30 PM
How can WA have a D+ with worse grades than Florida?

Florida gets the F because they allow NFA stuff. Washington doesn't.

August 7, 2006, 02:32 PM
Has the Brady Campaign come up with a defensible distinction between violence and self-defense? :confused:

August 7, 2006, 02:33 PM
Also read this on my "report card":

Demerits: Prohibits local government lawsuits against gun industry.


That's almost as dumb as filing a lawsuit against McDonalds for making you obese :rolleyes:

Oh wait, it's already happened :uhoh:

August 7, 2006, 02:42 PM
We'll have to try harder. Texas only got a D-!;)

Deer Hunter
August 7, 2006, 02:42 PM
What the hell? Texas got a D-!

That's absolutely horrible! Forget college, I'm going to squander all my funds on ammo and guns just to make sure we get an F- next time! :neener:

August 7, 2006, 02:44 PM
You Florida boys got beat by sweet home Alabama! F!

I want an F- :neener:

August 7, 2006, 02:46 PM
I'm wondering how Ga got a D with worse grades than Fl? Odd, but good.

August 7, 2006, 02:48 PM
We went from D to F when the "make my day" law passed :D . Joe

August 7, 2006, 02:50 PM
I am incensed! Florida has 6 "Yes" answers and two "Partial" while Arkansas has only two "Yes" and one "Partial" and we still got a worse grade! D???? From Carlos Hatchcock's home state?

Florida gets the F because they allow NFA stuff. Washington doesn't.

Arkansas allows NFA stuff, so that can't be it! Who do I write to correct this travesty? :evil:

August 7, 2006, 02:54 PM
damnit, we only got a D :fire:


And we allow class 3 toys, open carry (outside of the people's republic of Denver and Boulder), and even ccw on college campuses. Hmm, maybe we need to allow ccw on K-12 to get that tasty F.

August 7, 2006, 03:00 PM
These grades aren't for the sake of merely rating anti-gun legislation within each state, they are for: "on Laws Shielding Families From Gun Violence."

You see, it's for a moral reason. :D

August 7, 2006, 03:05 PM
well we only got a D also i think we should work towards that big F.

PS maybe we should go ahead and send the F with it LOL:D :evil:

Ohio Rifleman
August 7, 2006, 03:05 PM

We got a D- from the Brady Bunch! I know there are lots of Ohioans on here, so let's work to get that F! ;)

August 7, 2006, 03:20 PM
Oh NO!!! We only got a C-! That's unacceptable. We allow NFA stuff, have shall-issue CCW, but no Castle Doctrine yet :mad:
The "stop the NRA" alerts might be good to get. Know thy enemy.
We need to kick the Dems out of office and work hard to earn a big fat F! It's for the children! :)

August 7, 2006, 04:26 PM
Yay! F! with demerits, even!

August 7, 2006, 04:36 PM
"gun traffickers" resulting from non-"1-handgun per month"?

Non-10 round mags make you evil? "military style", (can we say VAGUE???) "assault weapons" (even though a lead pipe used in an assault is, technically, an AW) must run rampant on your streets!!! Call in the national guard!!!!:rolleyes:

no "safety locks"? Geez, most companies provide one IN THE BOX WITH THE GUN nowadays. You don't need to be sold an additional one. Wow, that's stupid.

Florida - State law forbids city and county governments from taking any legal action to hold gun manufacturers accountable, even when they act irresponsibly in the way they design, market or distribute weapons. No other industry enjoys such special immunity for irresponsible conduct.When's the last time someone sued Louisville Slugger when someone uses one to beat down someone else (quite illegally, I might add)?

If I don't stop reading this, I'll get angry:fire: . And you don't want to see me when I'm angry, Brady Campaign----I go buy more HICAP MAGS and ASSAULT WEAPONS to cool myself down.

HAHA, KENTUCKY BEATS FLORIDA!!!! We got a regular F.:D :D :D

August 7, 2006, 05:05 PM
As far as I'm concerned you can all kiss my arse. :banghead:. I'm still looking for anyone in a "D" or "F" state that needs an IT Project Manager and will help pay relocation expenses. :D

August 7, 2006, 05:31 PM
crap...i get A's all through school, and now my state gets an A-minus...i can't win for nuthin'...:D :eek:

i'm trying to think why the "minus"...must be that contingent out in the Pinelands...thank God for the Pineys...:)

Jamie C.
August 7, 2006, 05:33 PM
This one really cracks me up:
"No state requirement that there be a waiting period for gun sales beyond the "instant check" in federal law. Police are not given any additional time to run a criminal background check to make sure the gun buyer is not prohibited from acquiring firearms. There is no "cooling off" period to help prevent crimes of passion."

The reason I find it so hysterically funny is because prior to the Brady Bill going into effect, TN had a 15 day waiting period for handgun purchases.

So I guess I should say "Thanks Sarah, you stupid cow" for that one. :evil: :evil: :evil:

Still, we gotta work on these two - "Defeated NRA effort to allow carrying of hidden handguns into bars. Defeated NRA effort to force businesses to allow loaded guns in the workplace." - so we can get that "F" we should have.


1 old 0311
August 7, 2006, 06:07 PM
I guess next to a AIDS test, that is the next best one to fail.

August 7, 2006, 06:19 PM
MO gets a D+... but it looks as if it'll go down when we get the 'Permit to Aquire' legislature repealed (we're working on it!)


XD Fan
August 7, 2006, 08:44 PM
Congrats to all those states that got Fs, but here in Missouri, we are chasing you! Our F is coming!

Thank God for the Brady Bunch. We really need them to keep us informed on how we're doing. F for fantastic, right!

August 7, 2006, 09:08 PM
:D finally an f i am proud of. :D

eliminated the 48-hour waiting period on handguns for secondary sales.
Why wait when the background checks just take a few minutes.

Nathan Williams
August 7, 2006, 09:16 PM
Sigh, I live in Illinois. Oh well so far most everything fun is legal here in the southern half (the gun laws dont get wacky till you find your way north). But our Govenor has been working hard to change that, hes been wanting legislation passed that would ban semiautos.:what: Im on the western side of the state next to the river, and have thought long and hard about moving to Missouri.

August 8, 2006, 02:15 PM
Georgia received a D. That will certainly change to a F since our Gov just signed the Stand Your Ground Law on July 1st.


August 8, 2006, 02:43 PM
Has the Brady Campaign come up with a defensible distinction between violence and self-defense?

But that would invalidate their entire premise for existence...

August 8, 2006, 02:47 PM
ALABAMA GETS AN F!!!!!!!!!!!

August 8, 2006, 03:47 PM
I've never been so proud of such a "bad" grade.

August 8, 2006, 09:44 PM
Kansas got a C- I'm sure that will change when they figgure out we passed a CCW bill & it go's into effect Jan 1st, 2007!:neener: :neener: :neener:

Ala Dan
August 8, 2006, 11:03 PM
we are proud of our:


from the Brady Bunch~!:cool: :D

August 8, 2006, 11:39 PM
I'm so sad I wanna cry. Arizona only got a D! sob,,,,,sob,,,,,sniff,,,sob

OK I'm over it now! On behalf of all Arizonians (or are we Arazonites?) I vow we will work hard and strive for an F!

August 8, 2006, 11:58 PM
Let's Play... Calculate a GPA!!!

A (4) - Juvenile Possession
A (4) - Juvenile Sale/Transfer
B (3) - Child Access Prevention
F (_) - Gun Safety Locks
D (1) - City Preemption
D (1) - Secondary Checks
F (_) - CCW
13 Credits

13 / 7 = 1.86... is a C

C != F

August 9, 2006, 12:04 AM
well we got an :cuss: A-. and whats worse is many are deluded that it will get better..i know better and am counting the days when i retire (3 1/2 years to get full retirement at 55) so i can move to a full blown they know how to live F- state. :cuss: california

August 9, 2006, 09:54 AM
I didn`t realize there are so many `civilized` states in the U.S. all those `f`s, heh heh. :evil:


August 9, 2006, 12:06 PM
D-? Crap. That sucks.

August 9, 2006, 02:45 PM
A solid D! Much better then my previous home of PRK, glad I moved here 8 years ago.


August 9, 2006, 02:48 PM
we got a d :(

partialy I think cause the ccw here kind of sucks

August 9, 2006, 03:33 PM
Puke! MA got an A- oh well, nothin new there.. *sigh*

Carl N. Brown
August 9, 2006, 03:46 PM

I guess I'll have to download the FBI UCR for the year of the Brady Grades
and do a Brady Grade--crime rate chart and sort by grade, sort by
crime rate, and demonstrate the oobvious: there is no correlation between
Brady Grade and crime rates. Some of the highest crime areas get
As and states like Idaho graded "F" are relatively crime-free compared to
some of the As. Brady grade is a predicter of nothing.


Whoever dreamed that crap up needs to sit in a corner wearing a dunce cap.

I bought handguns under the 15-day rule in Tennessee.
In one case the application for permission to purchase was
approved as I stood at the window at the police station;
in another purchase, I took the form to the county
sheriff and the approved form was mailed the next business
day. If the Chief or Sheriff had denied the purchase, the
sale could not be completed; but, if they did nothing, at
the end of fifteen days, the dealer was to assume there
was no objection to allowing the sale. Good riddance
to the fifteen day waiting period.

August 9, 2006, 08:32 PM
Yeah, D- in Utah just missed the mark. We ALMOST eliminated the weapon in vehicle exclusion for non-permit holders. If we can do that next year, I think we might make the grade.

I have to rationalize giving a click to that website.

Don't you love how thay think that police should be the ones who decide who is and isn't good enough to carry?

August 9, 2006, 09:28 PM

First, no flames intended, but let's please get the gentleman's name spelled correctly.

"From Carlos Hatchcock's home state?"

It's Hathcock.

Secondly, both Wyoming & Montana are F states. Hardly surprising, but gratifing nonetheless.


Carl N. Brown
August 10, 2006, 12:40 PM
There is no "cooling off" period to help prevent crimes of passion."

More proof to me that Bradyites get their knowledge of crime and guns from dime novels and not real life.

Ballistic Fingerprinting - Must handguns be ballistic fingerprinted prior to sale?

Ballistics marks are not like fingerprints or DNA: they are like dental records, and change sometimes radically during the lifetime of the gun. The Brady inspired Maryland "Ballistic Fingerprint" database has been a waste of millions of dollars with no benefit. Vrady deserves a dunce cap.

Background Check At State Level - Do state police perform a background check in addition to federal NICS check?
Gun Show Checks - Are background checks required at gun shows?
Secondary Sales - Are background checks required on 'private' gun sales?

Background on Background Checks:

It is a federal crime for a convicted felon to try to buy a
gun -- filling out and signing the form 4473 is a crime for
a convicted felon. If a million and a half criminals have
tried to purchase guns, why have not a million and a half
criminals gone to jail? There are virutally no prosecutions
of felons for trying to buy guns under the Brady Act.

This issue was raised during the Clinton Admistration:
why no prosecutions of these felons blocked from buying guns?.
The Clinton Justice Department spokesman explained that
virtually all Brady Act background check "stops" are
technicalities that do not actually qualify as felonies.
Therefore, the Clinton Administration declined to prosecute
people who tried to buy guns but were stopped by Brady Law
background checks.

Here are examples of "criminals" who run afoul of the Brady Act.

o An elderly man tried to buy a shotgun; his background check
showed a police record: he had been convicted in the 1950s of
owning a card deck with pictures of naked women.

o A local man had a background check show he had been
charged with a felony; as a teenager he was night clerk
at a hotel that was robbed. He has a videotaped deposition
from the local chief of police that he was charged because
at that time hotel clerks, expecially teenagers, were routinely
taken under suspicion in hotel robberies until cleared. He
was cleared but the original charge shows on background check.

o Another local man always is denied on initial background
check because he has a felony arrest record: he had the same
name as a suspected felon: he was arrested then released on
grounds of mistaken identity. Everytime he goes to buy, sell
or trade a gun he takes copies of his appeals form and the
court records showing it was a mistaken identity arrest.
When the background check kicks out denied, he sends in a
appeals form and a copy of the court record and in a few
weeks the transaction is approved.

These are examples of why, although over a million "criminals"
have been denied the right to purchase a gun, there have not
been over a million arrests of felons for attempting to buy guns.

August 11, 2006, 08:00 AM
California A-, Connecticut A-, Hawaii A-, Illinois A-, Maryland A-, Massachusetts A-, New Jersey A-, New York B+:

All with higher grades than the District of Columbia with a B. :o

Stand tall and be proud. Wear that report card with honor. :neener:

August 11, 2006, 08:30 AM
Did you take a close look at the District of Columbia's grade of "B"?


Look what dropped their average. "Ability of Congress to repeal DC's gun laws."

Damn those pesky legislative powers! If we made it so Congress couldn't pass laws, DC would be a gun utopia! (Compared to the state of crime emergency they declared a couple weeks ago.)

I say we just make Sarah Brady Queen.

August 11, 2006, 08:42 AM
Alaska only got an F+. I guess we got a couple things to work on...

August 11, 2006, 09:22 AM
Alaska only got an F+. I guess we got a couple things to work on.

Relax Tigger, we dropped from a D- last year.:D

That grade is likely to drop again during the Brady Pukes' next grading period since we have two new pro gun laws going into effect. (Castle Doctrine and Emergency Powers)

Their criteria is also a bit misleading regarding juveniles. First off no responsible person is going to transfer a firearm to a juvenile and has never been a problem. So a law really isn't needed here.

The one regarding juvenile posession requiring a juvenile to be 16, is rather subjective as enforcement really depends on the situation. In rural areas it isn't likely to be enforced unless the juvenile in possession of the firearm is acting in an irresponsible manner or otherwise endangering others or property. I've seen 14 yo and younger in this community and others I've worked in, hunting and carrying firearms. I don't find it a problem as long as the kid has their parent's permission.

My guess is that the Brady Pukes only mentioned juvenile possession to fluff up their own image as not to appear completely irrelevant and without influence in Alaska.

The restriction on concealed carry on school grounds needs to be axed though.

August 11, 2006, 12:31 PM
"Did you take a close look at the District of Columbia's grade of "B"? "

It's just very deceptive (intentional on the Brady's part) that DC with the most restrictive gun laws in the country gets a B grade.

Essex County
August 11, 2006, 01:24 PM
Got all F's except for a couple of C's. Life is GOOD......Essex

August 11, 2006, 01:35 PM
Indiana has worse grades that Florida too, yes we still managed to scrape by with a "passing" grade. :neener:

August 12, 2006, 12:15 AM
New Mexico got a good solid F. *snif* I'm so proud. :)

August 12, 2006, 02:26 AM
Yea we got an F....I'm so proud....:D

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