Hi-Point carbine question...
Clipper
August 8, 2006, 09:03 AM
...I just picked one of these up and bought an ATI stock for it at the same time. Went home and, following the instructions, disassembled the Hi-Point and dropped it into the ATI stock. Thus began my problem. The front action cross bolt didn't line up with the holes in the stock, and I had to take the drill press to it to get things to line up enough to bolt it together. However, once all the screws and bolts were tightened, the bolt would bind up about halfway through the cycle, and I spent my first box of ammo yanking on the action handle and smacking it forward into battery. This problem became less frequent the more I shot, and I fully expect that after a couple hundred rounds it will free up, or if it doesn't, the rub marks will tell me where to file off some stock. Although I have to make some allowances (I have wide hands & shortish fingers and because of the joiner at the bottom of the pistol grip can't quite rotate my hand enough to reach the mag release or the safety lever with my shooting thumb and must use my off side hand), this gun is a ball to shoot. I also found I cannot just shove the magazine into the mag well like with a pistol, otherwise the latch finger pops out of the mortise in the stock and gets wedged sideways and won't engage the mag until I disassemble it and reallign it in it's slot. So I push the release button before GENTLY inserting the magazine. Overall, I can't complain. At the price, I didn't expect finesse, and I'm sure I can deal with any issues easily enough myself. The gun is fun and accurate when it functions smoothly (naturally I found MilSurp hardball to be more reliable at this point than hollowpoint ammo) I just wanted to find out if my experience is unusual, or if the ATI stock might be contributing to some of this.
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dracphelan
August 8, 2006, 09:35 AM
I would say that the ATI stock is the source of your problems. I bought a non-functioning HiPoint carbine at auction and HighPoint completely rebuilt it. It looked new when I got it back and functioned flawlessly.
Bigfoot
August 8, 2006, 07:53 PM
The rear of the bolt usually rubs on the inside of the ATI stock, some dremeling or sandpaper work solves this.
Many others have had the same problems getting the bolts to line up.
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patriot2980
August 15, 2006, 11:07 AM
I had the same problem as you did. A little sandpaper and some patience will take care of it no problem. It's certainly better than the factory stock.
SHOOT1SAM
August 16, 2006, 09:27 AM
I had the same problem with mine. I had to clearance out the holes & use a C-clamp to get the carbine into the stock. I had to brace the stock against SOMETHING sturdy in order to pull the bolt. It would also wear my trigger finger out as I was testing it for accuracy with a red dot sight (scarily accurate!).
After about 100 rounds, the bolt is as easy to pull as an AR or AK, and the trigger has lightened & smoothed up incredibly. I did put some blue Loc-tite on the bolt threads as it had a tendency to work loose rather quickly. I have about 500 rounds through it now and couldn't be happier with it. The only other thing I've done is to put a little bit of oil on the action; it has yet to be cleaned and I plan to keep shooting it until it is required, just to see how long it'll go.
Sam
dfaugh
August 16, 2006, 09:55 AM
The only other thing I've done is to put a little bit of oil on the action; it has yet to be cleaned and I plan to keep shooting it until it is required, just to see how long it'll go.
It'll probably surprise (if not shock) you....I've got about 5000 rounds through mine, and I've never done anything more than clean the bore, action and lubricate. Alot of that was shooting Wolf (which is very dirty) and other cheapo ammo, but includes a variety of ammo, including +P+ Black Talons and Ranger.
Clipper
August 16, 2006, 03:12 PM
I disassembled it yesterday and relieved some of the stock alongside the slide, and after close inspection, I suspect that when I tightened the two action bolts, it caused the receiver cover to draw the sides of the stock inward to contact the slide, as there were some rub marks on the slide. I didn't tighten the cross bolts as tightly when I reassembled it, and it functions smoothly without hangups. I'll get to Wally World tomorrow and pick up a couple boxes of WWB and try 'er again...
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