How to spot a ccw holder?


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BIGDADDYLONGSTROKE
August 9, 2006, 11:28 AM
Yesterday as my visiting in laws and I were out and about and naturaly Im carrying a hand gun I got to thinking, I wonder how many other people in this building are carrying a firearm. So I was wondering how do the good folks here on THR spot someone whos got a weapon on them. I mean I know the typical bulge in the pocket or thigh or hip or under the jacket bulge.

And please I already know, a good ccw holder you wont be able to spot, but seriously folks what to yall look for when trying to spot a ccw holder?

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Pilgrim
August 9, 2006, 11:33 AM
Someone constantly fidgeting with something on his belt under his shirt or jacket.

Pilgrim

Silver Bullet
August 9, 2006, 11:33 AM
The confident, rugged individualists.

geekWithA.45
August 9, 2006, 11:43 AM
How to spot a CCW holder?

Sneak up behind him.

Pick his pocket.

Look under his driver's license.

:neener: :neener: :neener:


In seriousness, behavioral cues are usually the biggest giveaways.

das028
August 9, 2006, 11:45 AM
A grown man wearing a fanny pack, is a dead give away, unless he is from europe, of course.

marklbucla
August 9, 2006, 11:48 AM
A wilderness tactical instructor's belt is a dead giveaway. Royal Robbins pants are too to a lesser extent.

I also think one of those pocketknives with the clip for the end of the pocket gives the impression of gun owner, at least. Not sure about CCW though.

TallPine
August 9, 2006, 11:52 AM
I really couldn't care less - neither does it bother me to meet someone openly armed as long as they are not acting belligerant (sp?). We were out fighting a fire a few weeks ago and a neighboring landowner walked up with a 1911 (i think?) in a shoulder holster. It didn't bother me and I don't think it bothered anyone else either.

Sometimes I meet someone who I would expect to be armed, so out of curiosity I discreetly try to discern if/how he/she is carrying.

Iggy
August 9, 2006, 11:54 AM
Look for the guy looking at every other guy's waist, pockets, armpits, etc.:evil:

Byron Quick
August 9, 2006, 11:57 AM
I like simplicity in my life. I simply assume that everyone is armed, act accordingly, and forget about the non-issue.

FilJos
August 9, 2006, 12:09 PM
I second the fanny pack thing. Any time I see a grown man wearing one who doesn't look "special" I tend to think that he is packing.

Rumble
August 9, 2006, 12:15 PM
I have noticed that I have a "tell," which I'm trying to break myself of in all but the required moments: I tend to flip down the right side of my shirt hem (carry IWB on the right side) to make sure the shirt hangs free. Now, I do it when I get out of a car or out of a seat just to make sure the shirt hasn't rucked up or snagged on a part of the gun, but I catch myself doing it when it's totally unnecessary, and it strikes me that it would be a pretty good giveaway that something is under there.

So yeah, somebody fidgeting with their belt, shirt, etc. might be worth watching to see if you can "make" them.

mattk
August 9, 2006, 12:43 PM
Always have one hand free(usually their strong hand).

Whirlwind06
August 9, 2006, 12:44 PM
Anybody wearing a vest in 95 degree weather. Unless he is getting off/on a Harley. If that is the case I'm pretty sure is his carrying anyway.

atlctyslkr
August 9, 2006, 12:44 PM
Someone who is constantly scanning the area in a crowded place is a good give away. I got busted that way once by an off duty cop. Was waiting in a long line with groceries. As I was leaving I was approached by this cop and he asked me what department I was with. I told him I was not a cop and why did he ask. He said the haircut and the fact that I was constantly sizing people up never looking in one place for very long. He said he noticed I wasn't talking on my phone or fidgeting with something and the fact i was alone with a cartload of stuff in the middle of the day.

He smiled and said be safe and went on his way. He knew and he knew I knew he did.

the naked prophet
August 9, 2006, 12:48 PM
Someone who, while wearing an unbuttoned shirt, keeps the wind from blowing it around to their sides. That's my biggest thing, but I try to usually button just one button about 2/3 of the way down, so I can still sweep it away from my gun but that it won't blow away exposing me.

Exposed reloads are a dead giveaway. Saw a guy with a fanny pack, and I started wondering "is he carrying" when I saw two speedloaders on his belt :rolleyes:

The_Shootist
August 9, 2006, 01:00 PM
...about reloads. here in Texas, you have to keep your sidearm CONCEALED - no printing or exposure of the gun or else its bordeline "brandishing".

But I've often wondered if my reloads were to be exposed, would that be the same thing? I'm less concerned when I carry one of my revolvers....probably most people out and about wouldn't know what a speedloader is anyway.

I think I've only been made once. Years ago, a couple weeks after I got my CHL was carrying my 1911 and standard garb was shorts and a dark t-shirt (untucked) with the .45 in an IWB.

Coming out of the grocery store (both hands on bags) the wind was pretty gusty and hit me dead on, pressing the shirt briefly against my body. I noticed a grizzled old timer coming towards me going into the store giving me a REAL hard look and then sort of shaking his head and walking on. As if to say "Young whipper-snappers these days just don't know how to pack!"

I guess he thought I didn't fit his threat profile (30ish guy, white. glasses, short hair carrying two bags of groceries). Not sure if I should be relieved or insulted :evil:

Thats the trick to CCW - be obscure and ordinairy so that nobody gives you a second glance.

Taurus 66
August 9, 2006, 01:32 PM
He was most likely thinking, "Sheesh, next time just put your gun in the grocery bag, preferrably between the milk and eggs, alright whippersnapper? :rolleyes: Sheesh."

Every time it's windy and I'm wearing a 2x pullover shirt, I try to make it not look so obvious I'm trying to reduce the print by taking my right hand and gently pulling down and out on the right side while walking along. I've gotten pretty good at it. I make it look natural and only someone who knows what to look for is going to suspect I'm packing. I look for others doing the same.

Seminole
August 9, 2006, 01:49 PM
Someone who is constantly scanning the area in a crowded place is a good give away.

I once walked into a restaurant (Ruby Tueday? TGI Friday?) and as I walked to my table, began scanning the crowd as I normally do, sizing up the apparent threat level, locating the exits, etc. A gentleman seated across from his wife, with his back against the wall where he could see the entrance, made definite, purposeful eye contact in a way that let me know he knew exactly what I was doing. I looked back in--I think--such a way as to let him know I knew he knew what I was doing, and took a seat with my back against another wall from which I too could see the entrance as well as him. Though I didn't see any evidence of his weapon, there is no doubt in my mind that he was carrying and that he knew I was carrying, too, though I'm certain he didn't actually spot my own weapon. It was nice to know there was another sheepdog in the restaurant.

Trebor
August 9, 2006, 01:58 PM
Look for the "Tactical" folder clipped to their pants pocket. That's the most reliable "tell" I've found.

ambush
August 9, 2006, 01:59 PM
Living in NJ, its not something you would think about:mad: ('cept when you're in Newark, Camden, etc., then its for the wrong reason).

Hazwaste
August 9, 2006, 02:16 PM
Look for the guy looking at every other guy's waist, pockets, armpits, etc.

That could also indicate something else.

Soybomb
August 9, 2006, 02:16 PM
I can't help but think some of you don't have the ESP you think you might. ;) I fiddle with my shirt and belt all the time. Its no indication that we have some sort of unspoken concealed carry bond, I'm just trying to keep my butt covered especially after I get out of a car. :neener:

Short of seeing belt clips that disappear mysteriously inside the pants or obvious printing I don't tend to think most people are carrying. And really they aren't.

Vitamin G
August 9, 2006, 02:24 PM
1) People who keep looking around.
2) People who get into brief verbal judo with the friends as to who "gets the window seat" (facing the exit) based on who "has the right of way" (bigger caliber) (Then again, all my friends carry so maybe thats just our own little code/honor system)
3) People with fanny packs, especially with "tactical zippers" (small piece of material attached through the eye so that the zipper is easier to grasp)
4) People with photographer vests
5) Hawaiian shirts, unbuttoned.
6) NRA hats, sheepdog Tshirts, Molon Labe polo's, etc. (actually saw one)
7) People who are eating at a bar, and not drinking (It seems like some of the best food in Pittsburgh can only be had in bars)
8) The guy with an overloaded left or right arm, but nothing in the opposite hand. (Think a guy carrying 5 bags of groceries all in one hand, and nothing in the other)
9) The guy with a suit coat in 90degree weather, who doesn't take it off.
10) Exposed clips from a "tuckable" holster.

And my favorite... The guy who just started carrying who keeps pulling his pants up, that isn't between 11-22 years old.

I agree with the above statement that all of these people aren't automatically carrying, especially vests and fannypacks, its just such a higher probability that its worth taking a closer look.

KINGMAX
August 9, 2006, 02:32 PM
I consider that everyone is armed. If not they should be. It is a crazy world out there. Your best defense is your SA, (situational awareness, not your single action). :uhoh:

Remember: Hope for the best, be perpared for the worst !!

xds&gsps
August 9, 2006, 02:52 PM
"I second the fanny pack thing. Any time I see a grown man wearing one who doesn't look "special" I tend to think that he is packing."

Hey my Dad wears a fanny pack doesn't carry & isn't special!! j/k :)

I too think the fanny pack is a dead give away, though, all the above mentioned things are also good. I have trouble noticing, as I am a rookie myself, but I am picking it up more & more. I noticed an off duty LEO (I don't remember how, but I know he was LEO) the other day with a shirt that was a bit too tight to be carrying under, printing pretty bad. I don't know that anyone else would have noticed (that wasn't looking for it), but I did (I was actually pretty excited I know it is a rookie thing)

:neener:

One of Many
August 9, 2006, 03:01 PM
Fanny Packs and Clip-on Pocketknives are not reliable indicators of concealed pistol carry. I always have my knife clipped to my pocket, and I usually have a small belly-bag on, yet I do not carry a concealed pistol. My belly-bag is just large enough to conceal my J-frame .38 special, but I use it to carry a second pair of eyeglasses, eyeglass cleaner solution and medication.

I was once asked by a police officer to open my belly-bag, when I was entering a racetrack grandstand area, where handguns are prohibited. He saw my eyeglasses and let me enter. I am sure he suspected I had a gun in the bag, and that is why he wanted me to open it.

If you assume that a fanny-pack or belly-bag is being used to conceal a gun, it could cause you to overlook a gun hidden in a different location on that persons body. It could also divert your attention away from another person that is a real threat.

I have considered getting one of the vests that have multiple pockets (safari or photog type) and getting the stuff I usually carry on my belt (PDA and Cell Phone) and in the belly-bag off of my waist; that would not mean I was carrying a concealed gun anymore than I do now.



What is the concern about identifying other people that are carrying concealed guns? Do you suspect anyone that you do not know, of being a criminal, if you think they have a gun? Do you suspect that they are CPL holders? What is the point? If you see someone performing a criminal act with a gun, then you need to be concerned, otherwise why waste the time and energy to constantly look for a concealed gun. Most people planning to use a gun to commit a crime in the immediate time frame will have it in their hand (and the hand may be concealed); those that are minding their own business and carrying out normal activities in a normal manner, are not a threat, so why try to detect their hidden gun?

Frandy
August 9, 2006, 03:01 PM
I also think one of those pocketknives with the clip for the end of the pocket gives the impression of gun owner, at least. Not sure about CCW though.

Hey, I resemble that remark. :D

HankB
August 9, 2006, 03:47 PM
Guy wearing a vest is a good giveaway.

(Unless it's leather, and goes with matching pants, studded neckband, and hat. Then it may just indicate . . . uhhh . . . an alternative lifestyle.)

HighVelocity
August 9, 2006, 04:36 PM
Anybody carrying anything desert tan that says maxpedition on it. :neener:

bamawrx
August 9, 2006, 05:48 PM
Good thread. I too try to find people CCW but it is hard indeed. Heck, even hard to pick up on people that you know are CCW. No one and I mean no one would ever guess by wife has a G-19 in her purse. Women are the tuffest for this reason.

My hair cut guy made me once, and I consider him to be the only one to do so honestly. Others can make you if they already know its there. Once after a dinner with guy buddies one asked me in the parking lot if I was CCW, because they didn't see one and it wasn't like me to not have a gun. I had a full sized 1911 on my person at the time. I asked everyone else to "find the gun" well after a few wrong guesses someone got it, but the wrong guesses show just how hard it is to find a well placed firearm.

Moral of story is that if you can't see the gun when you KNOW its there, then how in the heck are the dumb sheep going to find it?

cane
August 9, 2006, 05:53 PM
A dead give-away is the person with a "fanny pack" and a wallet in his back pocket.

armedandsafe
August 9, 2006, 05:56 PM
People who get into brief verbal judo with the friends as to who "gets the window seat" (facing the exit) based on who "has the right of way" (bigger caliber)

This I have to share. Back in the late 70s, a friend of mine who didn't/doesn't carry was insistent on sitting with a good view of the door and a clear path to an alternative exit. It had something to do with having spent time in "NorthWest Pakistan," I suspect. I found a new Greek restaurant in Solana Beach that I liked very much and invited him to lunch one day. Now, visualize this: A man who wants to sit facing the door, with his back to the wall. A "rainroad-flat" restauurant, with an entrance at each end, 5 seats at the bar and 3 tables along the wall. The choices were: face the front entrance, with your back to the rear entrance, OR face the rear entrance, with your back to the front entrance, OR, sit at the bar, with an entrance both left and right of you and your back to some of the clientelle.

He dithered and I laughed, for quite awhile. :evil: The food was good, though.

Pops

Jesse H
August 9, 2006, 06:03 PM
I also think one of those pocketknives with the clip for the end of the pocket gives the impression of gun owner, at least. Not sure about CCW though.

That's practically everybody here in Texas. :)

jman74
August 9, 2006, 06:09 PM
Somebody who's always looking around, scanning everytihng is a pretty good indication. Maybe they're not packing that instant, but that is somebody who's aware of what is going on around them. Not many people in this world do that today. Mostly it's a cop or somebody carrying that does. People these days don't pay attention at all. I swear you could get away carrying open here in CT as long as you were dressed either in tactical blue pants/tight t-shirt or a dress shirt and dress pants. People here would just assume you were police.

Correia
August 9, 2006, 06:17 PM
It's easy. Go into a crowded place. Then shout, as loud as you can: "Oh no, that person is carrying a GUN!"

Then watch for all the people who hurridly grab their shirt, pull down their jacket, look at their ankle, pat their pocket, etc. :)

KimKommando
August 9, 2006, 06:21 PM
I WANT people to know I am packing. I could care less if a passer-by or cop knows I am packing. There is less of a chance of a would-be criminal acting up if they think there is someone packing nearby. I personally prefer open carry, but I have been told that open carry tends to "make people nervous". :confused: But I don't go out of my way to let folks know, if they notice, they notice.

Glock_10mm
August 9, 2006, 06:41 PM
I agree with whrilwind on this one, those bdu vests are the best tell tale of packing (also ex ops guys). I think they hide the best, but in south FL, I only get to wear it maybe one day in February, lol. The last one I bought I think I've worn a total of two weeks in the past four years!

No offense to the southern boys (I are one), but if you have a mullet your packing. (or at least have an arkansas toothpick strapped to your leg)

Another way to tell is look around the place when you first enter, anyone sizing you up is probably packing.

Any establishment open past 6PM -> assume all emploees are packing.

Anyone with more than 3 gold teeth is packing.

Anyone driving a late 80s muscle car (Camaro, Z, 5.0, vette, etc) is probably packing.

Anyone on THR is probably packing

Anyone over the age of 20 wearing camo is probably packing (except those camo bikini's because where would you hide it, but I bet there is a gun in the car!)

If they are wearing, have a bumper sticker, or are flying the confederate flag, their packing!

I like the pick their pocket thing (read their drivers license)...one things for sure, you'll find out if their packing, and might find out first hand.

The pocket knife this is good too, I also resemble that!

Lastly, this is more for ex military/police, look for the best vantage point in any place (restaurant,starbucks,etc) and see whos sitting there. When you walk in, if they look at you without really looking at you, they're packing.

I just thought of this too - anyone wearing a trenchcoat in florida is packing more than a handgun.

marshall3
August 9, 2006, 07:31 PM
When I'm out and about I try to figure out who is likely to be a bad guy, not who is carrying ccw. I don't care who is ccw.

Double Naught Spy
August 9, 2006, 09:13 PM
I don't buy into the clothing accessories mentality to spotting gun carriers. I know too many folks who dress in manners that folks here would think meant they were carrying when they were not, for example, fanny packs. Things like fanny packs and vests give reason for a closer look, but are not necessarily an identifier.

However, if I was going to go with identifiers, I would look for folks in Il. with ICARRY t-shirts, people with NRA shirts, or other gun related shirts like COLT, Beretta, Sig, Glock, etc.

Folks who are only looking at vests, fanny packs, emblems, Royal Robbins gear, etc. are potentially defacto missing critical parts of the picture around them by out of hand assuming said folks are carrying guns. If you think they are carrying a gun, what else could they be carrying...assuming they are not good guys?

rangermonroe
August 9, 2006, 09:24 PM
It's easy. Go into a crowded place. Then shout, as loud as you can: "Oh no, that person is carrying a GUN!"

Then watch for all the people who hurridly grab their shirt, pull down their jacket, look at their ankle, pat their pocket, etc.

in church :evil:

pete f
August 9, 2006, 09:35 PM
I just went to a working guys bar for weds night all you can eat fish fry, yummmmmmm I was looking, 11 guys walked past me, 8 had clip on knives, I think two were carrying, the rest reasonably sure they just had the knives....


The signs here are probably different than anywhere else, here a vest may be a sign, but most of them are harley vests or carhart (not tonight too hot) but a vest here is a clothing article. A manbag or fanny pack means metro sexual or WORSE. A brief case carried in after hours is carrying. camp shirt, fishing shirt, hawaiian, depends on his size, either belly camo or carry cover. sometimes both.:rolleyes: I watch them stand up, its hard to stand and not double check the piece. If the hand hits the hip or pulls only oneside down, carrying. The man lightly but firmly grabbing his companions arm to steer her away from the seat he needs to sit in, carrying.


And the all time give aways, the guy who gets up from a booth and leaves the gun showing until his wife pulls his shirt down, or the your taking an leak at the urinal and when he opens his pants in the stall you hear the clank.

Ops Officer
August 9, 2006, 09:52 PM
Uh, yell gun in a crowd?:what: You're kidding, right? I can visualize an ND. That would not be a good idea in the Washington, DC area or Northern Virginia area. There would be at least one of the many LEOs and bad boys who might react carelessly. Besides, there are enough firefights that erupt in those areas.:)

rangermonroe
August 9, 2006, 10:14 PM
Uh, yell gun in a crowd? You're kidding, right?

Yeah. :scrutiny:

If that doen't work, try "fire"!

Come on, sarcastic wit! Try it some time.

If I yelled that in church, the only person who would be noticed would be me. It would be like shouting , "Hey! That is Jesus up there on the cross!"

Kurt S.
August 9, 2006, 10:23 PM
Fat middle aged white guy, wearing dockers, loafers, and nicely pressed short sleeved dress shirt driving a pickup truck or 4WD SUV that looks like it is used as intended.

If they're female, young, non-caucasian, or wear piercings-tshirt-jeans then hell I dunno, but you might be surprised.

1911 guy
August 9, 2006, 10:46 PM
Vests are big. Especially on folks who don't fit with the image. Jackets that don't come off even when the dude is drowning in sweat.Noticeable scanning of a crowd. Someone sitting with their back to a wall, looking around the room every time someone changes position. Here's a biggie. A lot of the copos around here carry, but none of them know how to conceal. They all wear light colored shirts one size too small to pull off a full size pistol. Big bulge on the hip rather than behind it.

It's a moot point, though. I don't mind walking into a room where everyone has a gun. I just don't want to walk into a room where I'm the only one without one.

hankdatank1362
August 9, 2006, 10:55 PM
And my favorite... The guy who just started carrying who keeps pulling his pants up, that isn't between 11-22 years old.


So you're telling me that when I turn 23 next May, my .40 will magically quit tugging at my side?;)

ball3006
August 10, 2006, 12:19 PM
anymore. I guess the word got around that they scream "gun". I use a man-purse. Usually because I wear gym shorts and tshirt when it is warm out. It is big enough to carry my wallet in an outside pocket. As I am a very good powerlifter, I don't get any flack about it except for my lady friend that runs the Vietnamese eatery I go to. She always asks me if I have my gun in my purse today. I always reply of course. Vests stand out around here because the outside temp is around 100 every day in the summer. I always have my second gun in my pocket and my wife is also armed. We have planned out what we will do if approached by a bad guy. I always look for the possible bad guys, I don't worry about the CHLs. I have formal security training so I can scan a venue without seeming to.....chris3

Correia
August 10, 2006, 12:32 PM
Ops Officer, yes, I'm totally serious. :rolleyes:

(I was being SARCASTIC).

I'm a CCW instructor. I enjoy trying to spot people who are carrying. It is fun, but I don't take it serious, and mostly I do it so that I can give advice to my students on how to avoid stupid mistakes.

That said, Utah ain't NoVa. CCW is common here, and is not seen as a big deal. Open carry not so much, but some people open carry constantly, and in the vast majority of the state, nobody bats an eye.

CajunBass
August 10, 2006, 12:32 PM
I've never wondered about it at all. Nor have I ever worried about if anyone "makes me." The longer I've had my permit, the more I "open carry" anyway.

carterbeauford
August 10, 2006, 12:36 PM
Half of a P11 grip sticking out of my right jeans pocket and an NRA shirt are usually a good indication I am carrying.

mindwip
August 10, 2006, 01:28 PM
pocket clip knife wont work with me as i have been carry it off and on sence i was 10. But hopefully i will get my ccw within a few months then it will.

madmattmd
August 10, 2006, 01:29 PM
In Maryland, we have to worry about who's carrying concealed because most likely they DON'T have a permit. :banghead:

Recently, while waiting for my wife outside the A.C. Moore in Hanover, PA, I did notice a guy wearing a "5-11" tactical/photographer vest. I thought it was a bit strange considering the heat wave we were experiencing. The breeze caught it a little and I got a glimpse of a 1911 on his right side. Since then I play a mental "who's carrying" game when I'm in PA.

Matt

Vitamin G
August 10, 2006, 01:45 PM
And my favorite... The guy who just started carrying who keeps pulling his pants up, that isn't between 11-22 years old.



So you're telling me that when I turn 23 next May, my .40 will magically quit tugging at my side?

No, im telling you that you'll be getting a good belt for your birthday :neener:

WolfMansDad
August 10, 2006, 02:11 PM
About people scanning, being aware of their surroundings, and sitting with their backs to the wall, I do that all the time, and I almost never carry. I learned these habits from karate. Someone practicing situational awareness is just being smart, not necessarily carrying.

I have seen a lot of people print where I live, mostly "urban youths." I used to think they were all carrying until I saw one of them reach into his pants and pull out an airsoft pistol!

Be aware of your surrounding, but make no assumptions.

PressCheck
August 10, 2006, 02:43 PM
A wilderness tactical instructor's belt is a dead giveaway. Royal Robbins pants are too to a lesser extent.

I also think one of those pocketknives with the clip for the end of the pocket gives the impression of gun owner, at least. Not sure about CCW though.

I agree.

mindwip
August 10, 2006, 02:45 PM
white pride

^^ I dont get that?

Matt King
August 10, 2006, 02:47 PM
white pride

^^ I dont get that?

White Pride is a racist, who just had an anti-Jewish thread closed. Pay no attention to him.

mindwip
August 10, 2006, 02:58 PM
ah

Sistema1927
August 10, 2006, 03:06 PM
Don't feed the trolls. That little "warning sign" should be clicked to alert the mods of wierd behavior.

geekWithA.45
August 10, 2006, 03:41 PM
The Troll's been defenestrated. (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/defenestrated)

Carry On.

Cosmoline
August 10, 2006, 04:03 PM
I looked back in--I think--such a way as to let him know I knew he knew what I was doing, and took a seat with my back against another wall from which I too could see the entrance as well as him.

But did he then look back in a way as to let you know that he knew that you knew that he knew that you knew what you were doing? Because that's the vital part!

depicts
August 10, 2006, 04:33 PM
I like to look for other CCW people because I think it helps me hide mine better. It's also fun to make someone and point it out to my wife as if to say, "See, it's a good thing I'm carrying" or "I may need a better carry gun."

As for clip pocket knives, I keep mine at the bottom of my weak hand pocket. I don't want to let anyone know I'm carrying that for the same reason I don't want them to know I have a gun. I want the element of surprise. I think wearing it clipped in plain sight is only asking for trouble. The possible exception might be if you were on a job that required you to use the knife a lot and keep it handy, but even then I'm not so sure

benEzra
August 10, 2006, 04:40 PM
The person who picks up a bottle of Windex with their index finger in register along the nozzle instead of on the trigger, or the person at the gas station who lays their finger alongside the pump handle when picking it up...

Man wearing fanny pack, even though he's wearing pants or shorts that have pockets. +1 for Cordura nylon pack, +2 if black, +3 if it's the size of a small carryon suitcase.

Someone wearing a sport coat over a polo shirt or T-shirt at the grocery store.

Ex-MA Hole
August 10, 2006, 04:50 PM
A couple of years back I went to a function for ex CIA and FBI agents.

I got there early to play the where are they carrying game.

Out of the 150+ that walked by me, I made 2.

I'm going to go out on a limb and ASSUME that more than 2 were carrying. (Sarcasm)

I was impressed.

The two?
1. Wind blew open coat.
2. Coat was a TAD too tight, saw the butt from the shoulder holster imprint on the way by.

MAURICE
August 10, 2006, 08:23 PM
I work in corrections, and am not a police officer, but I always* carry my Sig with me.
A dead giveaway is when your cop friends are with you and pat you on the side to see if you are packing.
I try to only check my rig in public when in between aisles at the store, discretely when entering and exiting my vehicle, etc. I second the riggers belt comment. I carry mine on a Galco (iirc) rigger type belt right side in a leather slide holster.
Typical dress is jeans or slacks with an untucked polo. If you are one of us it should not be hard to spot. Most people have no clue, even when I find I am printing.

*Anytime I am not out at the local watering holes or other places prohibited by local, state, and federal laws. On duty we can carry, but not off. Odd, isn't it?

akodo
August 10, 2006, 10:25 PM
while I am against wearing extremely obvious cloths like shirts that say NRA, Colt, etc, I must say I am intrigued by the idea of wearing items that only fellow gunners would recongnize, almost a secret code amongst us, Things like the triangle with two stick arms (old hobo sign for 'armed man lives here) on a shirt, molon labe gear, less well known gun brand shirts, etc. Browning makes some very sedate hats that unless you already knew browning did guns you'd never figure it out.

shooter503
August 10, 2006, 10:45 PM
Was checking into an airport hotel behind a very obvious Fed Air Marshal (thick rubber soled shoes, slightly badly dressed, age, build). The desk clerk asked for something and he bent down to his suitcase revealing a couple of inches of holster to the rest of the queue.

IZinterrogator
August 10, 2006, 10:52 PM
Anyone driving a late 80s muscle car (Camaro, Z, 5.0, vette, etc) is probably packing.Hey! My Camaro is a '97 model Z28, thank you very much. :neener:

wolf_from_wv
August 11, 2006, 09:10 AM
What about a hairless spot on the arm on the opposite side of the pocket clip knife? :D

wingnutx
August 11, 2006, 01:57 PM
What about a hairless spot on the arm on the opposite side of the pocket clip knife?

Knife-fighter's mange.

Essex County
August 11, 2006, 02:04 PM
Vests,Hiawaian Shirts,etc are a good giveaway. I mean Who would wear an Hiawaiam unless they we're hiding something? The only folks with a fanny pack that I assume aren't carrieng beter be wearing spandex and are riding a bicycle....Essex

sevesteen
August 11, 2006, 09:06 PM
Stolen from another site: Someone who keeps their finger indexed, when they pick up a Windex bottle...

Travis McGee
August 11, 2006, 09:32 PM
Look for the guy who is telling everybody "Make my day" and "Do you feel lucky, punk?"

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