Creative ways to hide gun in car


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357wheelgunner
August 10, 2006, 09:38 PM
What are some creative ways to hide a gun in a car? Is there a way to modify a seat to make a pocket to slip the gun in or something like that? I was going to bolt a pistol safe to the floor behind the passenger seat, but that is a bit out in the open for me and I'd like to put it somewhere a smash and grab crackhead would not think to look. Any ideas are welcome. By the way I drive a small economy car if that helps any.

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1 old 0311
August 10, 2006, 09:42 PM
In a wrinkled up McDonalds bag on the floor?

'Card
August 10, 2006, 09:51 PM
Get an empty tampon box, put the gun in it, and toss it in the back.

No male of the species will ever look in there. I promise ya.

Outlaws
August 10, 2006, 10:01 PM
Remove the passanger side airbag and install a hidden compartment.

The_Shootist
August 10, 2006, 10:04 PM
+ 1 to the McDonalds bag. However I have an empty cup (with straw) and balled up cheesburger wrapper at the top of the bag giving it a more tawdry appearances. Takes a desparate thief (maybe looking for spare fries :D ) to paw thru your fastfood garbage.

But I DO like the empty tampon box idea :evil: ALOT

KINGMAX
August 10, 2006, 10:15 PM
I remember seeing Robert De Niro using a very large SLURPPY cup to hide a little back-up palm pistol .38 revolver type in a movie once. :cool: He left the straw in the cup. :banghead: I can't remember the name of the movie right now. :banghead:

:confused: Does anybody re-call the name of / or remember seeing the movie?????????

hjrocket
August 10, 2006, 10:20 PM
I have a lock box called Secure It. Meets TSA specs and comes w/ a 1500# test aircraft cable to wrap around whatever. Will hold a full sized semi-auto and will defeat a smash and grabber unles he has a bolt cutter on his person. I hook the cable around the seat frame and then stick the box between the seat and the door and it is invisible in our car and the SUV. It's really handy when we go out to NV (where our CWP's are not honored) just park the car on the UT side of the parking lot, lock up the firearm, and walk into the Casino and eat King Crab (which will happen tomorrow!!!):)

cassandrasdaddy
August 10, 2006, 10:24 PM
horn in center of steering wheel comes off will take a small gun gotta tape over wires first. i stole an idea from an old easyrider mag for my bike had a custom sissy bar with a compartment sealed for a browning and 2 clips and a box of rounds. you needed a knife to cut cover but it was well concealed

ScottsGT
August 10, 2006, 10:27 PM
Careful.....Check your local laws first. If you get caught with a gun in SC in any other place in the passenger compartment other than the glovebox or the console, you could be in a heap 'o trouble. Unless you have a CWP, then it has to be on you or your pocketbook, or GB or console.
Now if you're talking about safe storage while the car is parked, I could probably come up with a dozen places if I thought about it long enough. Maybe a flap on the carpet where you could store it under the padding?

lawson
August 10, 2006, 10:49 PM
i have a Secure It box as well, i keep it under the driver's seat, with the cable attached to the seat frame. i figure it will stop a smash and grab thief well enough, and it wasn't that expensive.

Wes Janson
August 10, 2006, 11:06 PM
In Florida, "securely encased" supposedly means that you have to physically open or undo something to access the weapon. In a snapped holster, in glovebox, inside a box with a lid, in a compartment, something. I think the lawyer who wrote the book of advice and info specifically mentioned having a pistol in a paper bag would be really pushing the limits of the law, and would likely wind up a test case (bad).

qlajlu
August 10, 2006, 11:33 PM
I have a lock box called Secure It. Meets TSA specs and comes w/ a 1500# test aircraft cable to wrap around whatever.
Check out Center Of Mass (http://www.center-of-mass.com/). Make sure you scroll to the bottom of the page. Take the cable and wrap it around one of the seat mounts in your car then put the safe under the seat, or under a floor mat, or throw a towel, rag, or something else that is convenient on top of it.

ksnecktieman
August 11, 2006, 01:02 AM
Using a holster with a clip on belt fastener, cut a slit in the front of your drivers seat,,, low center, as low as it takes to get to the cross bar, clip the holster on it, and take a piece of fabric similar to your seat, and crazy glue it to the front of the seat, so it comes up and falls over to the front to cover it. Totally cover it, so IF/WHEN it is discovered, it can only be through a search, nothing visible from outside.....

ONLY if it is legal, of course....... wherever you are

spin180
August 11, 2006, 02:58 AM
I remember seeing Robert De Niro using a very large SLURPPY cup to hide a little back-up palm pistol .38 revolver type in a movie once. He left the straw in the cup. I can't remember the name of the movie right now.

Does anybody re-call the name of / or remember seeing the movie?????????

Showtime (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0284490/) was the movie.

;)

Bergerboy
August 11, 2006, 04:41 PM
Here in Georgia, you can carry a pistol in the compartment or open in your car without a permit.

I have a center console right up next to my front seat, so I stick my holster'd .38 revolver right in between them, sliding from the front. The clip on the holster keeps the holster from coming out w/ the gun, if pulled. I'll try to get a pic later...

Travis McGee
August 11, 2006, 09:23 PM
'Card: Where do I send the bill for the new keyboard, after spewing my Rum and Coke all over it??????

kentucky_smith
August 11, 2006, 09:56 PM
Lincoln Town Car has arm rest in door that swings up to reveal console. Took me a couple of weeks to notice it when I bought the car. Nice place and it meets Ky law.

Zrex
August 11, 2006, 11:28 PM
Just slip your pistol in this wonderful safe:

http://www.shomer-tec.com/images/site_images/tbs_med.jpg

No one will dare touch it.


http://www.shomer-tec.com/site/product.cfm?id=99887213-F553-E130-7F2BE5BED6A1828B

rocknrollhd
September 26, 2009, 02:31 PM
Well i don't think American citizen should have to hide a gun in their car, Truthfully i believe if you have a gun and you have a permit you can holster it.
Everyone respects a man with a gun. On another note the movie with Robert D.
i believe it's Taxi not sure though. By the way this is my first post i love this website

c919
September 26, 2009, 02:41 PM
Truthfully i believe if you have a gun and you have a permit you can holster it.

Depending on how you carry, it can be rather tricky to safely and successfully draw while seated in a car. It's preferable to many to have a separate one for quicker access. That's why I support car carry, but one should do what works for them.

Country_boy_88
September 26, 2009, 02:43 PM
SC law :

a) secured in a closed glove compartment, closed console, closed trunk, or in a closed container secured by an integral fastener and transported in the luggage compartment of the vehicle; however, this item is not violated if the glove compartment, console, or trunk is opened in the presence of a law enforcement officer for the sole purpose of retrieving a driver's license, registration, or proof of insurance; or


that would be the deal breaker if you were to have it out in the open

Oyeboten
September 26, 2009, 03:36 PM
Driver's seat cushion...a slit, horizontally, in the front allows a Pistol in a Holster or not, to be slipped in...stays put...towel or folded blanket on seat drapes over the front...

Also, under folded blanket where Seat cushion meets seat back...but, making sure it cannot slide down into a crevice, it goes in a fold of the Blanket.

Older Vehicles, always lots of room up under the Dash for as secured strap-snap Holster in any position...


Older vehicles also, espeially, under the floor Carpet, to one side...

jakemccoy
September 26, 2009, 03:43 PM
http://i25.tinypic.com/2dj9amh.jpg
http://i31.tinypic.com/3133hqu.jpg

chuckusaret
September 26, 2009, 08:13 PM
I have a lock box called Secure It. Meets TSA specs and comes w/ a 1500# test aircraft cable to wrap around whatever.

Best $29.95 I ever spent. I bought one for all my cars.

PT1911
September 26, 2009, 08:15 PM
I always thought the soiled undies method would be (theoretically) quite effective...:D

Mandolin
September 26, 2009, 08:31 PM
Card's method, while gross, would proabalby be very effective.

bigfatdave
September 26, 2009, 09:09 PM
it can be rather tricky to safely and successfully draw while seated in a car. And if you are seated in a car, either leave or run over the threat.

wilkersk
September 26, 2009, 09:29 PM
Gross? Its just a cardboard box with a picture of a tampon and a name on it.

You think that's gross, try being the only driving male in a house full of hormone-enraged females. Nothing proves your manliness like walking up to the cashier at your local grocer at 11pm with the jumbo box of sanitary napkins.

When I go to the range before work, I slip the slide group off the frame and put it in my back pocket. The frame and range bag get locked in the trunk. No problem.

Erik M
September 26, 2009, 09:32 PM
And if you are seated in a car, either leave or run over the threat.
That is signature line quote worthy.


I keep my weapon inside a folded up hoodie in the floor behind my passenger seat. It is completely out of sight and I can draw it with one smooth practiced motion. I never leave it unattended.

bigfatdave
September 26, 2009, 09:44 PM
Perhaps the people who feel a need for a firearm in the car are left-handed, and can fire while driving?
Seriously, what is up with this perceived need for a readily-accessible handgun while driving? I understand that you went to the trouble to get just the right handgun for carry, and I understand a desire for effective self-defense ... what I can't understand is why you need the handgun while seated in the vehicle. If on foot, then yes, carry! But a handgun can't be both properly secured against theft and readily accessible/deploy-able, so why so many threads about where/how to stash a handgun in a car/truck?

PT1911
September 26, 2009, 09:45 PM
and if you carry a gun on a daily basis and find yourself in a situation in which you are unable to carry your gun inside? What then?

bigfatdave
September 26, 2009, 09:56 PM
Then it goes in the lockbox ...
or I change my plan for that trip ...
or sometimes I only notice the sign on the way out (whoopsie!) ...
or it goes in the trunk through the split rear seats (really fast, and a one-way trip for a holstered pistol) ...
or I go in and MrsBFD stays with the car/guns (or the other way around)

My issue is with the concept of the pistol needing to be readily accessible, because I don't see much need for something between on-body carry or locking up. Hiding a gun in the cushion of your vehicle is both foolish and unlikely to be more useful than just carrying on your person or in a purse/man-bag/urban-assault-bag.

9MMare
September 26, 2009, 11:27 PM
Perhaps the people who feel a need for a firearm in the car are left-handed, and can fire while driving?
Seriously, what is up with this perceived need for a readily-accessible handgun while driving?

Rangemaster gave me an excellent example of why it can be good to have it handy while driving just the other day.

We were discussing lasers, but I think it would work without it.

Female range regular was forced off the road by a road rage idiot one nite. He came up to her window, she red-dotted his chest....and that was the end of that encounter. Most likely if he saw the gun in her hand he would have reacted the same.

9MMare
September 26, 2009, 11:28 PM
and if you carry a gun on a daily basis and find yourself in a situation in which you are unable to carry your gun inside? What then?

This is my main concern.

PT1911
September 26, 2009, 11:39 PM
I was more reading the OP as a inquiry as to what one does to HIDE their gun not to have it readily available... tampon box in the back seat is not readily available. Nor is a wrinkled fast food bag or the like.

Then it goes in the lockbox ...
This is your answer... as was the trunk between the seats...

as to readily available.. well.. if I feel the need (which I sometimes do depending on where I am and when) the passenger seat under a shirt.. not much more readily available than that and there is no fumbling for it.

scrat
September 27, 2009, 12:28 AM
In a wrinkled up McDonalds bag on the floor?
That would be a total dead give away in my shiney clean spotless inside and out BMW

c919
September 27, 2009, 12:49 AM
Seriously, what is up with this perceived need for a readily-accessible handgun while driving?

Well post 33 (irate road enraged morons) is a good example. Car jacking in general is another.

It's improbable, but so is somebody breaking into your house and attacking you in the middle of the night, but I still sleep with a gun right next to me.

Any way you look at it, I will agree that there are very few situations where a driver would shoot someone from their car and not do jail time for it.

DeepSouth
September 27, 2009, 12:59 AM
and if you carry a gun on a daily basis and find yourself in a situation in which you are unable to carry your gun inside? What then?

This is my situation on a basically daily basis. I can't carry where I work so I must leave my pistol in my vehicle. Fortunately we have security and cameras around the parking lot so I don't worry much about it, I just throw it in the glove compartment and go on. Occasionally I might just slip it under a magazine that happens to lying on the seat.

TimM
September 27, 2009, 01:07 AM
Ever see Dog Day Afternoon? The snub was hidden in the armrest.

http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z126/instag8r/800px-Dogday-snub2.jpg

sfc_mark
September 27, 2009, 01:18 AM
Here in Georgia, you can carry a pistol in the compartment or open in your car without a permit.

I have a center console right up next to my front seat, so I stick my holster'd .38 revolver right in between them, sliding from the front. The clip on the holster keeps the holster from coming out w/ the gun, if pulled. I'll try to get a pic later...

In GA the law requires the weapon to be uncased on the passenger seat unless you have a CWP. With the CWP it can be concealed on your person or anywhere in the car.

sfc_mark
September 27, 2009, 01:25 AM
Seriously, what is up with this perceived need for a readily-accessible handgun while driving?

If Michael Jordan's father had a readily-accessible handgun in the car, he might still be alive.

9MMare
September 27, 2009, 02:12 AM
I didnt see any LE (that I knew of) answering, so I'm going to add something.

No matter how good your hiding place or even your lock, do not ever hide your gun (or wallet or camera, etc) in your car **once you have reached your destination.**

Do it before you get there. In many places, theives/opportunists watch parking areas and see exactly what you do. This is very common at parks, but also malls, event parking lots, tourist attractions, movies, etc.

In any case, I never consider anything in my locked car actually secure. I leave as little as possible in it.

TheProf
September 27, 2009, 06:40 AM
ignore this... i misread the previous post

bigfatdave
September 27, 2009, 06:46 AM
9MMare, that's a good reason, but why not just carry on-body?
I'm still not seeing a need for a pistol in an unattended car if it isn't disabled/locked to prevent theft.

22-rimfire
September 27, 2009, 08:05 AM
Keep a cluttered vehicle and there are lots of places to store a handgun. Of course you might not be able to find it if you need it.

Officer asks if gun is secured during a highway stop after seeing your CCW permit.... yes, officer, it's back there behind the seat somewhere... as he looks and sees that there is stuff piled a couple of feet thick in the cab extension part of the vehicle. :)

Any long guns?.... yes officer, I think there are a couple, but they aren't loaded. I put them in there about a month ago when I picked them up at my Brother's and forgot to take them out. :)

scrap iron
September 27, 2009, 09:11 AM
I'd just wrap it up and put it in the trunk

zombienerd
September 27, 2009, 01:06 PM
http://www.shomer-tec.com/product/the-brief-safe-293.cfm

http://www.shomer-tec.com/media/images/tbs_med.jpg

I wouldn't look in there :D

Guillermo
September 27, 2009, 01:36 PM
there are reasons to hide a gun in a car, for instance when I go to a school activity I cannot legally carry inside the building here in Texas.

Tampon box is funny, inside trash like a fast food bag or slurpy cup are creative. Tissue box would probably work (unless the crackhead had allergies).

suspended under the dash on the left side of the steering column would work.

9MMare
September 27, 2009, 01:57 PM
9MMare, that's a good reason, but why not just carry on-body?
I'm still not seeing a need for a pistol in an unattended car if it isn't disabled/locked to prevent theft.

My concern is at work. Cannot carry there. Also, when I'm out running errands...I live in a rural area and try to run all my errands when I'm in the major town in the area. I cant carry in all places.

Disables/locked? As I said, it's still vulnerable to theft and I cant afford another $500+ for a new gun.

RP88
September 27, 2009, 02:08 PM
Seriously, what is up with this perceived need for a readily-accessible handgun while driving?

if you see a need for a gun in one place, you can usually see a need for one in another. Home, college campus, restaurant, night-stop gas station, while simply walking down the street or taking your dog for a walk... All of those places have seen examples of what happens to good people when the improbable bad person comes their way. So, why NOT have one accessible in the car while driving?

I like the simple steel cable and padlock idea the most. If you can't carry it with you after you leave the car, then that would be a good, cheap way to lock it up.

Zach S
September 27, 2009, 02:46 PM
Hasnt this been covered in in other threads during the past three years? Anyway...

Here's the setup I used in my decomissioned police Caprice:
(Pics were taken at night, and I didnt have a battery in the car)

http://thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=70246&d=1199233567

http://thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=70245&d=1199233555

The holster is a blade-tech, I made the mount myself. I got stopped one day for something minor, and when I informed the LEO of the gun I had on me, and the one mounted under the dash, he wanted to see the mounted one. He liked it. We got to talking about guns and he forgot why he stopped me, but jokingly warned me not to do it again.

I want to do a similar mount for my current caprice, but I use the cupholder occupied by that space pretty often. I'm going to keep the holster in mind when I'm buidling my console.

You think that's gross, try being the only driving male in a house full of hormone-enraged females. Nothing proves your manliness like walking up to the cashier at your local grocer at 11pm with the jumbo box of sanitary napkins.
Pads are great improvised field dressings. I actually have a box in my car. I didnt buy them though.

I've got more than a few "good thinking" comments by going to the ER with a Kotex taped to my arms/leg/shoulder/whatever needed sticted up...

akodo
September 27, 2009, 07:17 PM
I remember seeing Robert De Niro using a very large SLURPPY cup to hide a little back-up palm pistol .38 revolver type in a movie once. He left the straw in the cup. I can't remember the name of the movie right now.

I was watching 'heist' the main theif bought a bag of 'pickmeuppills' dumped them out and put a baby browning in the bag. Step 2 was put baby browning in a medium sized coffee cup. Went to metal detector, set coffee cup on TOP of the pacakge screening, he and his package each went through, grabbed cup back up and smalltalked guard until the guard turned and he could fish gun out. Of course, until he fished the gun out the audience had no idea that it was in the coffee.

mp510
September 27, 2009, 07:32 PM
There was a bad guy on cops last night that had a Smith 642 (IIRC) hidden in the fuzebox of his car.

LaVere
September 29, 2009, 11:26 AM
I am left handed and it is hard for me to retreive or shoot with my left hand in my car. I mounted an inexpencive holster to the seatbelt post on my rightside. 99% of the time my gun is IWB and on my left side. At times I have pulled and placed it in the seat holster. That way I can pull and shoot without the door or seat belts getting the way. I do practice shooting one handed using my right hand. At 3 to 4 feet it would be hard to miss.
I have also practiced shooting from with in the car with my left and right hand. I was not driving I was stopped at the time and it was in a safe location and I had hearing and eye protection on.
I do not leave or store the gun in that location ever. I have a lock box or it is on my person.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2444/3971689252_21f84cf8b2_o.jpg

Looks like it is time to vacuum the van. ;)

CoRoMo
September 29, 2009, 11:40 AM
Creative ways to hide gun in car

I bought a nice quality holster that fits my pistol perfectly. I then mount the holster inside my waistband, on a good quality gun belt. This method is superior to anything I've read here.

bigfatdave
September 29, 2009, 11:49 AM
CoRoMo, that won't allow you to run to your car and retrieve your pistol, though.

Warhawk83
September 29, 2009, 01:03 PM
If I have it in the car it never stays there,I keep it in an open cubby under the radio while driving. Open carry is legal in my state. While on my college campus I can't even have it in the damn car, if they saw it they could expel me.

CCWB
September 29, 2009, 02:39 PM
I blame The Best Defense for this posting. Either the holstered pistol is in the console just to the right of my kne, or it's on my person. As far as locked up, the glove box or another location under double lock. There is really no in between. I only take it off my person for a longer drive. 90% of the time we know our stops prior to leaving, so there really is no excuse unless the only crapper serves alcohol. Either way, you $h 1 t outta' luck.

StealthyBlagga
September 29, 2009, 02:53 PM
I made a mount with integral holster (cheap nylon type) that installs inside the center console of my Toyota 4Runner and holds my Kahr MK40 in its own pocket holster - just grab the holstered pistol and go, or draw right from the mounted rig. Cheap and easy to make:

http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg34/stealthyblagga/4RunnerHolsterBracket3.jpg

http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg34/stealthyblagga/4RunnerHolsterBracket4.jpg

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http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg34/stealthyblagga/4RunnerHolsterBracket1.jpg



As for leaving the vehicle, my 4Runner also has a neat "hidden compartment" in the glovebox that evades casual inspection, and it is big enough for my pistol. The whole glovebox locks, so there is additional security there too.

For long guns, I run a thick cable through the action and secure the other end to the tie-down rings in the trunk. This can be defeated with tools, of course, but slows down the casual smash-and-grab thief.

Overall, the 4Runner is about as good as it gets for packin' heat :D

Guillermo
September 29, 2009, 03:17 PM
Stealthy is way too organized for me

DFW1911
September 29, 2009, 03:40 PM
I store mine on the top of my vehicle, in plain sight. I really don't have any problems with traffic or people trying to break into my truck.

Fuel price is nothing compared to the ammo it uses...

This thing is called an Ibis Tek Jackal: search it and check it out (better pics in their pdf brochures).

No, I don't own one.

Guillermo
September 30, 2009, 09:54 AM
CoRoMo must never go anywhere that he can't carry. Or he ignores the law.

bigfatdave
September 30, 2009, 12:19 PM
Guillermo, it really isn't hard to avoid CPZ's, and when one must disarm, there isn't really a need to hide a pistol in a quick-access spot. CoRoMo, it seems, has thought through the actual possibilities of a SD situation, and realizes that a pistol on your person is better than one you can only reach from the driver's seat.
That being said, StealthyBlagga has a pretty good solution there, I like it because the pistol doesn't need to exit the CC holster.

Guillermo
September 30, 2009, 01:52 PM
it really isn't hard to avoid CPZ's

Post Office, government buildings, schools and hospitals are off limits in Texas. I do not know how to avoid these places.

I have spawned and am sending said offspring to school. This evening she is receiving an academic award. Should I carry and break the law or skip the event? I choose to attend and hide my sidearm in the car. When in the car my gun is on my hip but I cannot carry everywhere.

KarenTOC
September 30, 2009, 02:41 PM
I once had a friend whose car was so messy that the trash on the rear floor was above seat level (the trash on the seat leveled it out). I'm sure she could have hidden ANYTHING in her backseat without fear it ever being stolen. A smash-and-grab thief probably would probably not even bother with her car.

Just a thought...

:D

9MMare
September 30, 2009, 04:29 PM
Stealthy is way too organized for me

And his car is way too clean.

kennjen
September 30, 2009, 05:00 PM
My good friend in Japan is friends with a Son of a major Yakuza head. Since he had a reasonable risk of being kid napped by a rival yakuza, he had a secret compartment above the sun visor. BTW, he also had an indoor shooting range in his house. (And he is not even supposed to have a gun)

I've also heard of a fellow with an serect compartment in the side sill frame of a car. The compartment had a combination lock on it. The real kicker and the secrect feature is that the compartment had 2 different combination. You can set the dial to one number ...say 123 and the compartment would slide one way revealing one compartment. Yet, you set it to another number..... say 789 and it would slide the other way revealing a second compartment with a gun.

Implication is that you can open it to a one of the two compartment you chose to. If a cop forces you to open it, you can open it to a compartment that doesn't have the gun and likely satisfy his curiosity.

That is slick !!

SharpsDressedMan
September 30, 2009, 05:19 PM
I have a sports water bottle that has a blue nylon insulated cover that houses a Walther PPk or Chief Special sized gun inside the plastic bottle (it has a slit cut out the length of the body of the bottle; just wedge your hand in, come out with the gun, after unzipping the nylon cover). It lays on the front or rear seat, within easy reach, and does not look anything like a weapon.

bigfatdave
September 30, 2009, 05:56 PM
Guillermo, well, I can say that I wouldn't fault you if you happened to forget.
But I would fault you if your car was stolen/broken into and your firearm went missing because you didn't secure it properly.

I imagine the guilt from arming a criminal would cause a lot more lost sleep than the guilt from forgetting to disarm for a CPZ.

Guillermo
September 30, 2009, 06:52 PM
Dave,

Respectfully disagree that I would have any responsibility if a criminal were to break into my vehicle and steal my gun.

When I have to go to a county building there is no "forgetting" as they sport metal detectors. There I have no choice but to leave my sidearm (or two) in the vehicle.

Today I did not forget to disarm. Put my PM9 in the console, parked near the well travelled entrance and watched the kiddo be inducted into the National Honor Society. (sorry for bragging but I am a proud pappa.)

bigfatdave
September 30, 2009, 09:19 PM
Congrats on the NHS induction.
I agree that metal detectors actually make a CPZ effective, so do armed security. I don't make a habit of violating "gun-free-zones" on purpose, I'm more of an avoidance type (the post office can be avoided, government facilities are a dedicated trip without CCW most times, schools and hospitals aren't an issue), but I'll admit that I've actually noticed the sign on the way out, or not seen it until I was already in a few times ... oddly there wasn't a force-field, and nobody panicked ... but I imagine that turning around rapidly right in front of a CPZ sign might garner a bit more attention.

If the right thing to do is to put the pistol in your vehicle, what about someone taking the bus, anyway?

While you may not be liable legally for a stolen firearm, and you might not even be personally responsible for the use it might be put to after a theft, I'd think that you wouldn't be feeling very good if it went missing and moved into the black market. I make an effort not to arm car thieves or their scummy friends, and when I stash my CC, I don't do it anywhere near where I get out if I can avoid it ... and I lock it up in the trunk at a minimum. A cash-box with a key is $20, and with some foam it will hold 2 pistols (MrsBFD packs too) with a reload for each ... add in some steel cable (free from work) and a cheap padlock and you have a good pistol box easily secured to the structure of your vehicle.

Gamera
September 30, 2009, 10:09 PM
Stealthy: Awesome job dude, I'll have to look into doing that to my 4Runner too :)

Guillermo
September 30, 2009, 11:38 PM
Dave,

thank you for the congrats. I know she is an outstanding young lady as she currently has a 4.15 at a VERY good college prep private school. The public acknowledgment is kind of fun. She is also a gun girl. I gave her a Smith 19 for her 15th b day. She really wants a 1911. I am considering giving her a Fusion 45 kit for Christmas. But enough of my popped vest buttons.

I again must respectfully disagree that if I have a weapon stolen that I have any moral obligation. I drive an SUV so I have no trunk. In addition to my carry gun (a PM9 or Colt DS) I usually have a "bug out bag" that has a bunch of stuff, including tactical flashlight and a Springfield XD45. While I try to put it between the flipped seats in the rear if I am going to be gone for any length of time, the THIEF is the one that is doing the bad thing.

We honest folks have the right to keep anything in our locked car. If some scum steals it such is the thief's fault, not the victim.

AmazING
July 21, 2011, 07:59 AM
Hello there,

I've just read your post about a secret gun compartment with 2 different combinations.

What is the name of this product?
Is it available int the US?

Thanks.

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