August 11, 2006, 02:05 PM
Well I was coming back from Centralia yesterday from shopping with the inlaws and yep, I was speeding, the officer was suprisingly very nice though, I simply gave him my concealed weapons license he asked if I had a weapon on board, I told him I did and that it was in the console. He never asked to see the firearm did not try to tkae it or anything, when he came back he wrote me a ticket for only 10 over when I had actually been going almost 20 he ignored the expired Texas tags of the vehicle I was driving (not my truck) and instructed me on severel ways I could take care of the ticket and not have it on my record.

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August 11, 2006, 02:28 PM
You're makin' that up, right?

Havin' a little fun with the THR crew? :D


What's the opposite of a JBT?

August 11, 2006, 02:33 PM
Actually it realy happened Im looking at the ticket right now and my inlaws were with me, but I have nothing to prove to you so you can go on about your business and stop trying start controversy.:)

August 11, 2006, 02:40 PM
Three cheers for Officer Friendly!!!

Serving the public and generally making the world a nicer place to live.:D

Note: this is NOT sarcasm, I wish there were more cops like this.

August 11, 2006, 02:43 PM
You got pulled over with the inlaws in the car?

Sounds like your family gatherings are about to get more entertaining. For other people, that is. :neener:

Sounds like a good cop though. We need more like him.

August 11, 2006, 02:58 PM
Yeah my father inlaw that it was quite a hoot laughing at me trying to get out of a ticket, but the officer was definatley friendly, Im used to Texas were the state troopers are not that nice, a budy of mine is a trooper in Midland, TX. I remember one night on the way back from Odessa he pulled me and friend over he new I was n the car and still gave the driver a ticket but then again we were braking the law.:)

August 11, 2006, 04:18 PM
Even with expired tags, In Texas that is usually more of an issue than the firearm.

August 11, 2006, 04:19 PM
That cop rules.

August 11, 2006, 04:34 PM
What's the opposite of a JBT?


It stands for Bunny-Slippered Constable


August 11, 2006, 05:20 PM
It seems like nowadays you either get Officer Friendly or Officer RamRod.

I got Officer RamRod a few weeks ago. I was riding my motorcycle (600cc sportbike) and he pulled me over and said he observed me doing "endos". Ok, yea my 240lbs butt on a 600cc bike in shorts and a t-shirt is out on public roads doing "endos". After he reworded the question 13 different ways(I counted) he finally looked at my ID. No idea why it took so long, he seemed too intent on winning the "argument" for lack of a better term. He was basically trying to get me to admit I was doing it. He looked at my reg, DL, and then saw I had put my LTC with my DL. He asked me if I had any weapons on me,and I didn't have anything on me. I really thought he was going to go back to the argument but he looked at my LTC again and handed everything back and left, abruptly I might add. Only thing I can figure is that he saw the LTC and realized that I probably wasn't a troublemaker. I'm not sure. It was kinda surreal.

I can't figure out a way to CCW on a bike in july and not dehydrate. And the firearms safety instructers are local LEOs and told us that if we are carrying and someone spots it they will get called. He didn't like having to hassle someone everytime they got a call for "a man with a gun" anymore than we like having it happen but he said they are required by law to check. The cellphone warriors are in full effect around here. That and if I go down the last thing I want to land on is a gun. Some kinda fanny pack type thing might be a way.

Anyone got any ideas how to dress light/cool and CCW on a bike at 65mph?

August 11, 2006, 05:40 PM
Erebus: its called a Kel Tec p3At in a pocket holster.

As for CCW permit getting people out of tickets, I have heard of several instances where the folks i actually know have dodged tickets just by producing the permit to the LEO. They think you must be ok, if u can get the permit.

Vitamin G
August 11, 2006, 05:44 PM
Anyone got any ideas how to dress light/cool and CCW on a bike at 65mph?

Might i suggest something of light material... preferably kinda loose.

I'm sure you'd get alot less calls to the police :evil:


August 11, 2006, 05:52 PM
Back when my father was about 60 years old, he finally decided it was time to sell off the motorcycle. He took a farewell ride late one night down a series of meandering back roads through the swamps of coastal South Carolina. It might be better described as low-level flight rather than a ride.

Somewhere along the way, he met a LEO going the other direction. Even before they had passed each other the colored lights came on so Dad, who long ago taught me you can't outrun a radio, just went ahead and pulled off to the side of the road. He had his license and registration in hand when the officer walked up with that stereo-typical opening line, "do you know why I pulled you over?"

"Yes, officer," my Dad answered, "I do. And the old lady has been on my a$$ about it, and nagging me all the time. And I know I should, but I just can't get myself to wear that damn safety belt!"

He got a laugh..... and a warning.

August 11, 2006, 05:54 PM
Anyone got any ideas how to dress light/cool and CCW on a bike at 65mph?

Belt pack strapped to the handle bars?

August 11, 2006, 06:19 PM
Yes! Vitamin G
And you would have instant immunity from racial profiling too :)

August 11, 2006, 11:23 PM
If a CHL/CCW license helps you out when facing a minor traffic violation, what would that plus a copy of my Class 01 FFL that I keep in my car with my registration and insurance card do? (I keep it there for when I travel to and from gun shows and my closest distributors just in case I get pulled over with a backseat and trunk load of firearms, bullets, primers and/or smokeless powder.)

Just a random thought. Also, you were very lucky getting a nice LEO.

August 11, 2006, 11:38 PM

Tank bag. There are many different kinds available, but most will require some modification, read sew yer own velcro, to work. This really works well if you're either left handed, or have practiced weak hand enough. Get the kind of bag that's easy to take with you when you get off the bike too.


August 11, 2006, 11:45 PM
Erebus: Joe Rocket Phoenix Jacket (or some such) loose weave textile jacket. You'd probably want a special holster that you could sling in front of you though.

FWIW, those jackets really work, too. I wasted my bike 3 months ago on the freeway at 65 mph (lowside due to panic stop on a lane stripe--bad luck), and, well, let's just say I got up and walked off the road with very very minor scratches. And that's it. Nothing broken, no gravel-embedded road rash.

August 12, 2006, 04:49 AM
I got pulled over a couple of weeks ago packing my sister up after her semester was over in flagstaff. On my way back, we had just crossed over from arizona and were heading towards searchlight (Harry Reids hometown :fire: ) and I was pulled over for speeding (88 in a 65 :banghead: ). Told him I had a CCW in the center console of my truck. He took a quick step back, asked my to step out of the car and he gave me a quick pat around my waist and then retrived my taurus 85 out of the console.

He then went back to his cruiser and wrote up all the info. When he returned he explained the ticket, only wrote me for 10 over, and then put my gun in the bed of my truck and told me to retrive it after he took off. I sat there thinking, "Ya know dude, if I was going to shoot you, I probably would have done it before I gave you my information and told you I had a gun." Oh well. :rolleyes:

August 12, 2006, 06:11 AM
I have an even better story.

A while back I was on break from classes so I went to visit family in New Smyrna Beach (a small town about 20 miles south of Daytona Beach). I planned to do some shoogting with some friends so I brought about 4 rifles and 8 pistols with me in m trunk and had my CCW in the glove box. While I was there I was pulled over at night for doing about 10 miles over the posted limit, a head light out, and I had a very dim tag light. When officer asked me for registration and proof of insurance I informed him that they were in glove box but I had a CCW permit and my gun with in the glove box. He asked if I had any other guns so I told him about the guns in the trunk. He smiled and said "it figures, I saw you NRA sticker." He then ran the serial # on my CCW and when it came back clean he gave me verbal warnings for the tag light and the speeding and gave me tickets for no valid DL (it was valid but was cracked pretty bad (mutilated)) and the headlight. The total cost was $15.

August 12, 2006, 07:50 AM
Why do some LEOs fear being shot by someone who discloses they have a CCW/CHL/LtCC and tells them exactly where a handgun is within their vehicle or on their person? I can understand being nervous, but if an actual criminal is going to kill a LEO they, generally, aren't going to have a CCW nor are they going to be truthful and admit they are arm, rather, they will just come out shooting. A CCW holder is generally not going to be a threat to a LEO.

Another point, in Missouri, and perhaps other states, we are allowed to carry a concealed handgun in our vehicles, if you are 23 years old and over, without any license or training required. With our state highway patrol, county sheriff department and municipal LEOs knowing this, what few dealings I have had since our CCW law passed here a few years ago, I have never been asked if I have a firearm in my vehicle. However, knowing that the LEOs in my area have itchy trigger fingers and an out of proportion startle response I never volunteer the information because it would only put them closer to a "shoot to kill" mindset and I don't volunteer information as a SOP. I suppose as long as you don't have a CCW the LEOs must think people are unarmed even though we legally can carry loaded handguns in a vehicle without one and I do.

***Disclaimer - My references to my local area LEOs are only for my local LEOs as I see them in many situations due to my reporter job with a county newspaper. Your LEOs may have better or worse attitudes so your experiences may vary.***

August 12, 2006, 09:38 AM
That and if I go down the last thing I want to land on is a gun. Some kinda fanny pack type thing might be a way.

I can tell you from experience that it's no fun to land on a gun. I went down a few months ago and landed on top of my S&W 39. I had a BIG bruise on my hip for a while.

It's not good for the gun either, althought this time I got off with just some scratches on the grip. The Uncle Mikes holster took most of the damage.

I now carry a Makarov in the pocket of my First Gear jacket.

August 12, 2006, 01:51 PM
What's the opposite of a JBT?
A good cop and decent guy,which most of them are.

We don't even have carry permits in IL,but the police I've talked to usually don't have a problem with out-of-state permits and having a pistol in the vehicle. They say it's all about your attitude.

August 12, 2006, 02:18 PM
Welcome to WA and how in the heck did you get busted for speeding near Centralia ? Thats some of the most wide streach of I-5 around here . Oh BTW that kind of treatment from LEOs is the NORM for this state . :D

August 12, 2006, 02:24 PM
Thank you, you now had I had the volume up on my radar detector that might have helped too, mother inlaw turned it down when I wasnt in the car she didnt like hearing it go off:rolleyes:

August 12, 2006, 05:58 PM
It is all in how you say howdy and what follows that sets the tone.Sure,some are spoiling to write you up,but the few I've had 'meetins' with were just fine.ONe even had a sense of humor believe it or don't....I was having a batch of stalls due to alcohol being added to the gasoline and picking up dirt out of the tank.One WSP near Longview,Wa stoppd and asked if we should shoot it here,or haul it away and then shoot it.Very nice 'officer friendly' attitude,and I appreciated it.
When you watch a tv show like Cops,and see the krap that some folks dish out,it's no wonder their attitude gets a little stretched now and then.

Give a cop a wave,it may just cheer 'em up a bit.

August 12, 2006, 09:17 PM
Tell your "in-laws" to start paying their fair share of taxes! :)

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