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jsalcedo
May 6, 2003, 10:23 PM
Rocker Ted Nugent Uses Slurs in Interview

http://www.go2net.com/headlines/ap/general/D7QS0EDG0.html

Two Denver disc jockeys stopped a live radio interview with rocker Ted
Nugent after he used derogatory racial terms for Asians and blacks.
Rick Lewis and Michael Floorwax, morning talk show hosts on KRFX-FM, said
that during an interview Monday, Nugent said one of the members of a group
called the Funk Brothers years ago complimented his guitar playing by using
a racist term for blacks.

"We've known Ted a long time and he's been on the show many times. So when
he went down that road, we stopped him and gave him a chance to bail himself
out, but he didn't take it," Floorwax said.

Nugent also used derogatory racial terms for Asians on the air.

The DJs said they got calls after the show from angry listeners, mostly from
people saying they were glad Nugent was off the air. The station didn't
receive any calls about it on Tuesday.

Nugent is past president of the National Rifle Association and is known for
his outspokenness.

"Ted likes to shock people. He'll come on the show occasionally and drop a
bomb like that and then step back to see the reaction it gets," Lewis said.
"He loves that reputation of a shoot-from-the-hip kind of guy."

The two DJs said Nugent is on the show about three times a year, but won't
be back any time soon.

A call to a Nugent spokeswoman was not immediately returned.

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Jedi_7.62
May 6, 2003, 10:32 PM
I've admired Ted for years and I've never been inclined to think him a racist or anything of the sort.

Nothing would surprise me from the Nuge but if he did use a slur I'm cinfident the liberals and the media will blow it as far out of proportion as possible.

just my 2 cents worth

Sisco
May 6, 2003, 10:38 PM
I've also been a Nugent fan for years, really enjoyed reading "God, Guns & Rock&Roll"
What bothers me about him though is he claims to be a "family" man and that family and kids are the most important things in the world. Can't disagree with that, but, you sure can't take your kids to a Nugent concert unless you want to teach them to swear like a sailor.

gun-fucious
May 6, 2003, 10:46 PM
so Ted prolly said something like:
"the Funk brothers said i played guitar like a motown n-word"
http://www.history-of-rock.com/funk_brothers.htm
http://www.standingintheshadowsofmotown.com/

KRFX-FM/103.5 (May 9)

Slogan: "Colorado's Classic Rock."

DJs: Rick Lewis and Michael Floorwax. Who good Christians shouldn't listen to.

Songs: Four--two by Tom Petty and two by the Who. Because it's "Two-fer Tuesday."

Commercials: Twelve, plus an extended plug for an "Air Fox" trip to the Indianapolis 500.

Contests: None--but Floorwax mentions that he'll soon be speaking with a guy he set up with a blind date for the evening's Jimmy Page-Robert Plant concert. "We have a good feeling that maybe he's going to get popped," Floorwax enthuses.

Worst moment: Channel 4 anchor Stephanie Riggs guests on the program; Floorwax calls her a "total fox, a total babe" and announces, "We want to worship you" in the slobbering tone of Beavis and Butt-head after one too many bottles of Boone's Farm. The one genuinely amusing exception: When Floorwax tells Riggs, "You're too good for this town," she doesn't disagree.

http://www.westword.com/extra/jukebox/dialM.html

Gordy Wesen
May 6, 2003, 11:16 PM
You can say what you think when you reach 70 or when you buy your retirement.
Sorry state of affairs when a country is ruled by liberal nursemaids.

John G
May 6, 2003, 11:28 PM
"Nugent is past president of the National Rifle Association and is known for his outspokenness."


:confused: He was? News to me. Also, is "outspokenness" even a word? This seems suspect.

gun-fucious
May 6, 2003, 11:33 PM
i found the quote:
http://www.aor-europe.com/nugent.htm

In 1963 me and my band won the Michigan Battle the bands. We played black music. That was our inspiration. All my musicians, we adored, we revered, James Brown and Bo Didley and Chuck Berry, you had to know every lyric, every bass line, you had to know all the black stuff because it was just more moving than the white s**t. That was our spiritual musical inspiration. We were on stage at Cobo Hall, brand new concert facility, and I'm jamming on my little Fender guitar and the Motown Orchestra was right next to me. Now I don't know if you can understand this, I don't even know how to compare this to your lives, but when the Motown funk brothers are your gods of musical expression and their right next to you you're about ****ting blood. And when we got there jamming and I was playing, didn't play that good then but I had that thing, I could play that n***** s**t, and this huge black man from the Funk Brothers, THE FUNK BROTHERS, universally respected as the gods of R&B, he walked over me because he was watching us rehearse and I went oh my god! And when he came over to me he put his hand on his shoulder and looked down on me and he said: "Boy, you keep playing guitar like that you're gonna be a n***** when you grow up". So when ever someone tries to claim that I'm a racist because I use the word n*****, the word n***** is a badge of honour where I come from.

Gordy Wesen
May 6, 2003, 11:44 PM
Tell it like it is.
Thanks for the post. Not a thing wrong with that. Glen Kaiser and Darrel Mansfield were of the same stripe back then and thats the way it was.
Aa an aside...when competetive stress is encountered over a number of days I too have found that one can "s*** blood"...even that is not mis-speak.

WonderNine
May 6, 2003, 11:50 PM
Nugent is past president of the National Rifle Association

When was that? :scrutiny:

gun-fucious
May 6, 2003, 11:55 PM
according to posts on FR, Ted refered to a "jap guitar" in his interview

CZ-75
May 7, 2003, 12:04 AM
is "outspokenness" even a word?


Yes.




So Ted used the word "n*****" like most inner-city blacks do, as a term of comaraderie.

"Jap" is still used by a lot of folks as a derisive term for their automotive products, etc., but it's hardly worse than "kraut" or "limey."


Mountains out of molehills.

TexasVet
May 7, 2003, 01:20 AM
Let's see, "Yank" (WW1 & 2 slang for american troops) is short for "Yankee" and it's alright. "Jap" is short for "Japanese" and it's not. Someone explain the logic behind that to me. Neither is derogatory, just shortened.:banghead:
PC is stupid enough on it's own, but when it's stupid, illogical and inconsistent it really makes me :cuss:

Jedi_7.62
May 7, 2003, 01:47 AM
Today;s word children is .........CONTEXT!!!!!!!!!!!:banghead: :cuss: :cuss: :banghead:

Jedi_7.62
May 7, 2003, 01:52 AM
For "using a racist slur" it sounds an awful lot to me like he is praising "African Americans".


Do they teach how to read for context in schools any more?


Was Ted president of NRA at some point and I just didn't know it?

Then again the only Presidnet I know the name of is Charleton Heston.

RCL
May 7, 2003, 07:16 AM
Sounds like some Denver libs are out hopping around with there panties in a bunch again. Bunch of B.S. :cuss: :fire: :banghead:

Matt1911
May 7, 2003, 07:24 AM
:rolleyes:

cratz2
May 7, 2003, 08:39 AM
I like to consider myself a reasonably PC person I think I've offended exactly one person face to face in the past 5 years or so with a very distantly racist... err... not comment or slur, but accent - and she certainly is the sensitive type.

When a radio station states that an interview was stopped because of a racial slur or slurs without stating the context of that supposed slur, it borders on slander, at least in my mind, because if you say, 'he used a racial slur against blacks' the average mind doesn't think it could possibly be in anything but the most negative of circumstances.

rrader
May 7, 2003, 08:57 AM
"Nugent is past president of the National Rifle Association..."

If only... He'd get my vote to replace Heston.

jmbg29
May 7, 2003, 11:01 AM
Poowr wittle wibberals! The Nuge used words that they have made verboten. No doubt they used the 1st amendment to make that ruling. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

mohican
May 7, 2003, 11:17 AM
Remember a few years ago when someone used "niggardly" in a public conversation? This person was skewered, even when it was pointed out that niggardly meant cheap, and has no racial connotation, except what was attached to it by the "offended party"

Remember, only white males that vote libertarian or republican are racists. Because when I'm called a redneck, white trash, etc its not racist.

Exclusions based on sex or race are not really exclusions, unless perpetrated by white conservative males.

waynzwld
May 7, 2003, 11:57 AM
George Orwell's 1984?

Carlos Cabeza
May 7, 2003, 12:47 PM
Honky, Redneck, Whitey, Cracker........None of those terms offend me, but they are used just as frequently. I still don't get the nature of a person to be offended by such petty words and more reflects the intelligence of the user. I could be called crosseyed, freckle faced, redheaded stepchild and I feel "sniff sniff" hurt.......

Nah, no I don't.

dinosaur
May 7, 2003, 01:12 PM
Maybe the Nuge is starting his run for a Senate seat in W. Va? :D He`d have to change to a democrat and temper his language down to some of the stupidest comments ever made to get elected.:what: :neener: :evil:

Stinkyshoe
May 7, 2003, 05:18 PM
I agree with you guys here. I think it is stupid how hypersensitive these groups are. If they wanted to be fair they would crack down of the slurs make about people from small towns and the country being hicks, rednecks, inbred, etc. I go to a college and the school recruits a lot of blacks (african american if you prefer). Most of the guys the hall of my dormatory were black. Most were from big cities. They would call each other "******" and they'd even call me "******". I think for the most part it is used as part of the way the speak and display their image. I think it is a cultural thing, like talking with a "southern draw" and wearing wranglers. I was friends with most of those guys, as they are for the most part very decent and cool. I consider most of them friends.
I think a lot of the "oppression" is self-concieved and often I feel that there is more reverse racism that goes on than the other way around. Sometimes at school, myself and my room- mate(both being crackers, whiteys, rednecks or whatever) would go out of our way to be kind, generous and giving, to not allow the race issue to come up. We were being oppressed for the fear of oppressing someone else. We often extended ourselves much more than what we would have for a fellow "whitey, cracker, Wigger", and the result was that we were actually oppressing our own "kind". This is infact the case if skin color is even an issue. For me it is not. There are a lot of great, neat and smart people out there of all skin colors. I would embrace dating or marrying a woman of a different skin color. I think it is all about words and deeds and moral fortitude, not how much skin pigment God gave you.
So should Ted watch what he says. Yes, he should deal with the race issue by explaining himself and trying to get along. Sometimes offending someone is necessary to telling your opinion and the truth. But sometimes it's better just not to say anything. I am not saying he is wrong. If he was infact called a "guitar playing motown ******" or whatever the quote was, I don't think he did anything wrong by saying what he did. He was not being racist by what he said. It's kind like there is nothing wrong with saying "Bomb" in a sentence refering to a non terroristic activity on an airplane, but you'd sure be in deep trouble if the wrong person heard you.

Carlos Cabeza
May 7, 2003, 06:09 PM
You've made some fine points Stinky, I hope other people would follow your example. :cool:

zahc
May 7, 2003, 06:35 PM
The new racism is not 'making judgements on the basis of skin color' but often refusing to do so. I get called recist for treating people on stricly equal terms all the time.

jsalcedo
May 7, 2003, 08:11 PM
Amen Zahc.

Not giving preferential treatment to minorites of any type
is considered racist.

I have a 29 year old friend with a masters in biochemistry and microbiology who cannot find any upper level colleges to accept him because they need room for minority quotas.

He wanted to be a doctor now he learning to be a pharmacist in a state college.

Darrin
May 7, 2003, 08:32 PM
I vote: "Sounds like crap"

On a side note
I didn't realize 'Jap' was a bad word until I told someone I was selling my Japenese Stratocaster (In short, 'Jap Strat') a few months ago. I was told not to advertise it on eBay as a Jap Strat or my auction would be pulled.

I pledge to not abbr anymore. Someone might hit me......or....something. :uhoh: :rolleyes:

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