Scottish Sword ban


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LAR-15
August 14, 2006, 01:35 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/glasgow_and_west/4788881.stm

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LAR-15
August 14, 2006, 01:36 PM
"It is simply far too easy at present for these weapons to be bought and sold."

G36-UK
August 14, 2006, 01:40 PM
Just another irresponsible law repeating the unneccessary mistakes of nmine years ago.

I find it an insult that people this thick were ever elected. Says a lot about our voting people, doesn't it?

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Thefabulousfink
August 14, 2006, 02:08 PM
I thought they allready did this after the Battle of Culloden and the Act of Proscription in 1746.:scrutiny:

Fosbery
August 14, 2006, 05:01 PM
Disgraceful. That's all I can say really. Good news is that it's all so fluffy that it won't make any difference to anyone really, not even the law abiding. 'Reasonable steps'? So:

"Excuse me, you going to murder someone with this?"

"Nope."

"Ok, here you go."

G36-UK
August 14, 2006, 05:16 PM
From what I've read, it looks like the sellers will have to make a note of the customer's name and address.

TallPine
August 14, 2006, 05:30 PM
all true scots should be required to own and carry the claidheamh mr :P

Zedicus
August 14, 2006, 05:51 PM
There are more "True Scots" Living in the US than there are Living in Scotland, tust me on that.

The majority of the ones left in Scotland are Pussifyed Uber Liberals/Socialists.:barf:

jerkyman45
August 14, 2006, 05:54 PM
There can only be ONE Highlander!!!

and now he cant live in Scotland

Third_Rail
August 14, 2006, 05:55 PM
Zedicus - agreed. The Scottish I've met here are all wonderful people.

Cromlech
August 14, 2006, 06:08 PM
Seeing as this is the Scottish Parliament, it won't affect me . . . yet! :what: I hope that this is not attempted here in England.

This is absolutely moronic, and I will say no more on the matter, because my words would all be of the curse variety. :cuss:

tellner
August 14, 2006, 07:32 PM
Given that the Scots drink more and do more violent crime than anyone in Western Europe, hmm. Nope. They should still be allowed to buy swords. We should probably just put a big fence at Hadrian's Wall and around some of the British urban areas and warn innocent people away :scrutiny:

odysseus
August 14, 2006, 07:42 PM
Submit! Submit to the power of socialism gone insane. And the downward spiral of a society continues.

ryan56507@msn.com
August 14, 2006, 07:44 PM
People walking around the streets with samuri swords, more than half of all murders done with sword or "other sharp objects" wow, thats interesting, but i know the reason all the sword ppl are killing all the other sword ppl..........
as stated before here,.........There can be, only one!

AJAX22
August 14, 2006, 08:19 PM
It amazes me that scots are going to let themselves be disarmed even symbolicly (sp), they've been through this before, and it didn't go well for them at that time either.

Zedicus
August 14, 2006, 08:52 PM
It amazes me that scots are going to let themselves be disarmed even symbolicly (sp), they've been through this before, and it didn't go well for them at that time either.

Most of the people still in Scotland are to Drunk/High to care in the slightest.

Cromlech: Seeing as this is the Scottish Parliament, it won't affect me . . . yet! I hope that this is not attempted here in England.


Unfortunately you can count on it happening, What happens first in Scotland, Happens Later in England.
(You need look no further than the Extreme gun Control resulting From Dunblane for an example)

If I were you, I would be making plans to Imigrate to the US, the US has it's problems to, but it's still WAY better than the UK.

tellner: Given that the Scots drink more and do more violent crime than anyone in Western Europe, hmm. Nope. They should still be allowed to buy swords. We should probably just put a big fence at Hadrian's Wall and around some of the British urban areas and warn innocent people away

Only the Lowlands of Scotland are like that, The Midlands and Highlands are an entirely Different Story, Albet a somewhat blind most of the time to things that are going on.

Malice
August 15, 2006, 12:13 AM
An ovservation.

I have noticed that everytime someone poses a bbc article or other UK article on any weapons ban, especialy all these knife things...

... the article NEVER has any dissenting opinion. The closest to it is the one guy who says somthing along the lines of "this law will not fix the problem, we need even more!"

What? Even the US media isnt that obviously biased. That story quoted 5 people who agreed that the policy was a sound one.

Where is the guy who said "This is effing ridiculous!!!"?

Or does he really not exist? :uhoh:

Zedicus
August 15, 2006, 03:35 AM
It's a Combination of many British giving up on expressing Descent, and the BBC "Censoring" most comments.

Vairochana
August 15, 2006, 05:20 AM
Remember the '45!

Fosbery
August 15, 2006, 07:56 AM
To most British people, a knife (or sword or macheteetc) is a weapon, nothing more. Nobody uses proper knives (except a handful of bushcrafters, hunters, outdoorsman etc, and knife collectors of course) so they have lost all connection with practical use. The only time they see a folding knife or a machete is on the news when someone has been killed with one so gradually they have come to thhink of knives only as weapons.

It's interesting to note however that most stabbings in the UK involved cheap kitchen knives, not 'tactical' knives or machetes etc. Somehow, people have managed to ignore the fact that they use knives in the kitchen everyday, split them into two seperate worlds - evil knives that everyone else has, and my kitchen knives.

Then, years of media and government talk of 'too many people are carrying weapons' people have just been engrained with this idea that weapns are evil and need to be banned. It's genius really because now we have a situation where only outlaws and thugs carry weapons, so when someone like me calls for everyone to be able to, people immediately think everyone will end up like those thugs and outlaws.

Pawcatch
August 15, 2006, 08:07 AM
I'd like to see a poll from the majority of people in Scotland and see their opinions on this matter.I suspect that the majority support this,since the vast majority supported the various other bans.
The fact is that this will only change if the views of the majority change.
Call tyranny of the majority if you will,but it's a myth that this is being forced on them by parliament.If the majority wants it,then let them have mob rule.

OTOH,I'm glad our founding fathers understood that mob rule doesn't work.

armoredman
August 15, 2006, 11:03 AM
Airstrip One is lost.

LAR-15
August 15, 2006, 12:22 PM
You guys/gals from England, Scotland and Wales better buy your swords now.

Heck buy a knife or sword just to say screw you to the politicos.

Fosbery
August 15, 2006, 12:25 PM
I don't think we'll see this anytime soon in England. Some MP called for a ban on swords here in England and was shouted down as an idiot lol.

HankB
August 15, 2006, 12:52 PM
Where is the guy who said "This is effing ridiculous!!!"?Hauled off to gaol, I suppose . . .

Dain Bramage
August 15, 2006, 01:41 PM
There can only be ONE Highlander!!!


Yeah, but is it Duncan or Connor MacLeod?

munangokeewati
August 15, 2006, 02:15 PM
I thought England already had severe laws against carrying what we in most of the USA would consider ordinary pocket knives.

And just who are these gang members who commit most of the "blade crime" in Scotland? Are they native Scotts, or the decendants of recent immigrants?

For that matter, who and what are the "yobs" I keep hearing about?

Fosbery
August 15, 2006, 02:25 PM
@ munangokeewati:

Yes, we have pretty much identical laws on blade carry to California (our laws were modelled on theirs).

Unless you have a 'good reason' (such as a need for work or a specific task like camping or hunting) you can only carry a folding pocket knife with a cutting edge no greater than 3" in length. Arguably, the blade must not lock i.e. slip joint. This is not written in law, but there is a case where a judge said a locking blade was not a 'folding pocket knife'. Precedent was not set, but it could be your case that sets it, so best not to risk it IMO.

This new law (which is only in Scotland) is concerned with the purchase of knives, not their carrying.

Who are the people doing the stabbings? Mostly young, white males from poor backgrounds. What do they use? Kitchen knives mostly, otherwise cheap switchblades and 'rambo knives' like the tat you find on eBay for $5.

Exampleso of such little angels can be found, here:

http://www.chavscum.co.uk/4images/categories.php?cat_id=39&page=5

Phetro
August 15, 2006, 02:29 PM
There can only be ONE Highlander!!!

Yeah, but is it Duncan or Connor MacLeod?

Connor! Forget that dumb movie where they wrote Duncan killing him to gain his power--total BS.

(Duncan McLeod...don't make me laugh! :rolleyes: )

sterling180
August 16, 2006, 10:12 AM
Lets make sure that the ban,doesn't drift,south of the border in to England and south-west-into Wales.:uhoh: :eek:

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