[pendentive]

First time I've tried this...kinda crazy if you think about it.

But with the dogs on the hogs...it supposedly makes it easier to "get in and get out" quickly. :what:


I'll be going with a group of knifemakers down to South Texas...guide, lodge, meals, everything taken care of in one package deal.

Looks to be a very exciting trip!


Best part, is being able to truly test my knife. Oh, and here's a pic of it:

http://www.kosterknives.com/PigSticker002.jpg

And more info on the hunt:

www.hogsnknives.com


Anybody got any tips?

[stdlrf11]

Advice????
Bring a gun, man.
Those pigs will TEAR YOU UP!!!!
These pigs aren't like Arnold from Green Acres. I've seen 2 hunting dogs with leather protective collars on after a hog was done with them. They're playing fetch in heaven now.

It took a lot of bullets to put that pig down. I'm not sure you can get in close enough with a knife to do the job while keeping clear of those tusks. They can keep going for a while after a fatal wound.

You have bigger balls than I do. If you make it back, I want all the gory details!

Good luck,
stdlrf11

[MadMercS55]

I was looking to go on one of these things as well. Something very primal and such about engaging the hog with a blade. I was looking at www.lonesomepineknives.com you get a Larry Harley custom battle bowie to slay the hog and it's yours afterwards. Seemed pretty neat, just need to find the time off to pursue it more. I have a friend who went on one and was very pleased with the outcome. The hogs are fierce and it would be a test of one's warrior spirit to say the least.

[Jackal]

Giant brass balls.

[el44vaquero]

Video
Pictures
Living Will

[jeepmor]

Your nuts, good luck, stay safe, get some video so you can explain it to your insurance agent properly when recovering medical costs.;)

Bring a gun for backup. I would not let a hog with tusks get 10 feet from me, less if he looked irritated. But, since they probably taste good, I would probably pop him long before that if I had all the needed permits/tags.


jeepmor

[Harley Quinn]

It is a good idea, really it is not that dangerous. Dogs will do their job.
You need to do yours. :uhoh:

No shirking, get it done and quick. Save the dogs. It is pretty bloody if some of the dogs get hurt, or so I have been told.

http://www.hogsnknives.com/


HQ:(

[bad LT]

You are certainly have some big brass ones.

I have been tempted to use a spear for hog hunting. At least then I have at least a little room between me and a pissed off porky.

But then I realized that I could just shoot the piggy.:neener:

[Boom-stick]

Sounds fun to me, I've been looking at doing one of the Lonesome hunts but haven't got the money yet.

[Biker]

When I lived in Hawaii, I knew a some Samoans who hunted pigs with knives. Hell, get a few beers in those boys and they'd forgo the knives!
Good luck.

Bikeer

[nico]

Tred Barta did it on his show last week. The way it worked was the dogs would grab the pig by the head then he grabbed one of it's back legs and stabbed it in the heart. It didn't really look like he did all that much work or was in much danger. But, then again, neither of the two hogs he got was close to getting loose.

[Scottso]

If dogs trained right usually hold by snout and or hind quarters, hogs not going nowhere, however do not dilly dally or someone or the dogs will get hurt. American Bulldogs were and are still used down south for Hog dogs, grabem by snout biggest hog is stopped. Good luck and Quick kill!!

[1 old 0311]

Good luck! Stay in touch.

[Just_a_dude_with_a_gun]

Yep. You fellers are nuts. :neener:

[Valkman]

Daniel, I got my ticket from Tom yesterday along with a Dogfish! Your knife is sweet!

My tip? Let the others lead the way! :p

[Zero_DgZ]

To paraphrase a former coworker of mine...

You gonna die, honky.

But hopefully you'll have someone else filming so the video can be posted afterwards.

[Geno]

Yeah! Okay! I'm glad it's you and not me. I strongly suggest you have someone as back-up with a 12 guage with some nice 1 & 1/4 ounce slugs. You need to wear some Carhardts for over clothes or some chaps. These hogs can also rear-up and take out your throat. I've hunted A LOT of hogs. They can be trully deadly. I'll pray for you (no joke).

God bless,

Doc2005

[Biker]

The only pig I wanna stick a knife in is a nice pork roast fresh from my crock pot. 'Sides, I got a thing for Hogs.
Just don't seem right...
Biker;)

[Geno]

I don't think that even a crockpot could tenderize Biker's "hog".

:D

Doc2005

[hso]

I wouldn't want to use a knife with a finger ring for fear of having my index finger broken should the porker twist and turn.

The guys that I know who’ve done this recommend the following. Don’t hesitate. While the dogs tie the porker up, use the off hand to grab an ear and lock the arm out so that if the critter turns its head to tusk you you're at the end of a rigid pole attached to the head. Plunge the knife in just behind the shoulder and drive it down between the ribs to create a large thoracic wound.

[Harley Quinn]

I am with you on the idea about the design of the knife. Would not be my choice that is for sure.

Good ideas, nice to see others are slightly nuts also.:what:

HQ:)

[ryan56507@msn.com]

Just because rambo can do it, dosent mean you can, or should.

[dragongoddess]

All depends on the dog. Right dog breed then all you need is the knife.

[bakert]

dragongoddess Quote; [All depends on the dog. Right dog breed then all you need is the knife.]

Being a rather cautious soul when parts of my body might get chawed on, think I'll stick to firearms. 'Tis much safer. Some of them big old hogs aint too cooperative regardlees of the dog.:D

[dragongoddess]

That is until they run into a pack of Dogo Argentino's. Great breed especially if you hunt hog.

[usmccpl]

A good buddy of mine now rides a wheel chair cuz he got hung up in some barb wire with a pack of hogs too close. Slight scent of blood is all it takes for the badduns to go ballistic.The guy would have not made it at all if the the rest of us hadnt been as close as we were but not close enough to save his legs.





one shot one kill

[swampdog]

I agree about the finger hole. I didn't really care for the lonesomepine knife, either. I've never cared for finger grooves/holes on knife handles. I think they interfere with manipulation.

What constitutes a good hog knife? How long should the blade be? I'm sure most here remember the long daggers sold in gun mags that were toted a being "boar knives". Do you really need the extra weight and chopping ability of a bowie style blade or would you be better served with a heavy, dual edged dagger, something like a small gladius(Randall 2-8)? It sounds like you'll be using the point.

I agree about the chaps. I'd be thinking about a kevlar jockstrap or cup, too. Ouch!

From what I've read about the "sport of kings", I don't think they used catch dogs. After the dogs "bayed up" the hog, they'd get down off their horse and provoke a charge. Talk about brass, especially considering the lack of antibiotics, or doctors, for that matter.

[hso]

swampdog,

You don't want to be manipulating a knife in a hog hunt. You want it solidly grasped in a hammer grip.

Larry makes each knife for each hunter that goes out on the hunts. He tailors the grip to the individual for a rock solid hammer grip or saber grip. He can even make it with minimal finger grooving, something more like speed bumps.

You stab a hog and therefore heavy bladed bowies are not what's needed. A huge knife isn't needed, but a blade of 7 inches is the minimum size you'd want from what they tell me.

I’ve known folks to take hogs with Cold Steel and Timberline fighters. I’ve known folks to take hogs with customs. I even knew a fellow who killed a big boar with an old Chicago Cutlery large 8” chef’s knife (he'd wrapped the grip with friction tape).

I know at least a dozen people that have done hog hunts with knives from the Appalachians to Ozarks to Texas and Hawaii. Heck, I've been invited along on a lot of them, but never found the time to do it;) .

[pendentive]

Thanks for all the great comments, guys. "Crazy" is really too mild a term to describe the hunt...the hunters...etc. :neener:


The finger ring is for extraction (as a backup). The handle is long enough to fit your hand behind it and use the back of the ring like a guard..and still have a little extra room in front of the "bell" - which will be used as the primary extraction method.

(see attached pics below - three grip positions)


That said, I don't think using the ring would be a problem. If you have the knife in the hog long enough for it to flip around enough to break your finger...then you went in too soon...didn't have the dogs set up right...and stayed in too long. A quick in-out is enough. Sure, accidents can happen. You can also shoot a hole in your foot drawing a pistol from its holster.


Unlike the bayonets, survival knives, Cold Steel pig knife, etc. used for hog-hunting (which all do get the job done)....this one is Not a "sharpened prybar". Despite being 15 inches long and made from 1/4" barstock...it's only 15 ounces...and balances at the ring hole. A lot of thought went into the design. I'm not saying it's the "perfect hog knife"...but it will definitely get the job done.

Besides....there's only one way to find out....:D.....hence, the Knifemakers' Wild Boar Hunt.


Zero_DgZ - a few of us will have cameras and the hunt will be written up in American Handgunner's Annual as well. Hopefully someone will bring along a video camera too...excellent suggestion.


Thanks to everyone for some great discussion. All opinions welcome!


p.s. I do plan on having kevlar snake gaiters and/or kevlar brush chaps on. And I'm sure at least one of us will be carrying a pistol should things go south.

[Harley Quinn]

Seeing your hand on it helps.

How about duct tape, duct tape is the answer. Yep!

In India they have a knife that would be perfect for it.
You hold it like you are punching, you slide your wrist in to a holder and the knife is sticking out from the front, that would be good IMHO.

I saw a good one made out of a Hay hook and had a strap on it, extended up your arm sightly above the wrist made out of a heavy hide. Stabbing fool, when it is altered it can also be used for cutting. You want the blade to be going the same way the handle is, similar to a T. Hand goes here>>>D----

Wicked to say the least.

HQ:)

[pendentive]

I think you mean a Katar, right?

http://tsino0.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/katar.jpg



yes...it's got potential...:what:



...or maybe even a long push-dagger?

http://www.scotiametalwork.com/images/dragn%20push%20dagger.JPG

as long as you could get a stable grip on it.



The bars on the katar are there to mount to your armor...or at least go inside your gauntlet...probably not a bad idea either...:D

[jeepmor]

I'm not that bored with my firearms yet. Or that brave around a hog without them...yikes. Reading an account of someone losing a leg trying this stunt.... Well, you know the consequences going in now, best of luck.

Me, I'd be thinking...hmmm, 10mm, shoots flat out to 50 yards, yeah 50 yards. I think I could stop it before it got to me if it was that wound up and frothing at the tusks....maybe. Best pack another magazine, just in case.

Plus, my two lab mixes would just turn and run anyway, leaving me to take care of business...back to my firearms approach;)

jeepmor

[LAK]

I do not think it is an insane practice as long as the hunter knows what he is up against - and is pursuing this activity with likeminded and dependable people.

What HSO said.

And I would personally prefer a bigger knife. Not so large as to be sluggish, but with a heavy spearpoint or tanto. I do not know how big a pig you plan on sticking, but any upset stuck pig with the blade firmly embedded might put some phenomenal torque on the blade/handleand one with a more significant guard so as to positively prevent the fingers getting severed should a hard thrust hit a hard object - like bone or gristle - bringing the blade to a sudden stop.

Samuel Baker engaged in this pursuit (as has many a British officer in Asia and other places) in Ceylon (now Sri Lanka). There is a short intro in this book chapter (towards the end): Note, I have no relationship with the hosting website ......

http://lakdiva.org/riflehound/chap02.html

------------------------------

http://ussliberty.org
http://ssunitedstates.org

[Zero_DgZ]

What constitutes a good hog knife?

I'm leaning towards a Scottish claymore. But that's just me.

[Harley Quinn]

Thats the one.

The one I was describing, very similar to the old made with metal for the wrist, it incased the wrist more and had some more protection going up the forearm, similar to what the old vaqueros used to protect their wrists.

You see them in Western movies. The one I saw was very similar to the old calvary glove and arm guard combination.

Thanks for the name. Katar Hmmm. Sounds like a good name for a "Pitbull":p
Katar! Kill!... Boy, I am getting into that name.:evil:

HQ:)

[Steve 48]

I have to say your nuts but brave. I would still bring a gun. There very smart and mean. Steve 48

[Tom Krein]

Guys, this is not as crazy as it sounds! Don't tell Josh Graham though...:D

We will be hunting with a guide who does this on a regular basis. He has some great dogs! He uses Argentine Dogo's, American Bulldogs, and American Pitbull Terriers for catch dogs and Black Mouth Currs for bay dogs!


Here is a picture of my "Ultimate Boar Knife" and the .45 Colt Bisley that I will be carrying for snakes and back-up on the hogs.

I have handled Dan's Knife and it is very light, quick and pointy!! It should get the job done!

Many have mentioned spears and while they will work they are hard to manuver in the tight confines. Pigs go for the thickest brush around. You also have to remember that there are going to be 3+ dogs all around on this hog and he is going to be fighting so you really need the extra control you have with a knife vs a spear.

Blade length is also an issue. Bigger is not better! A knife with a 7-9" blade is ideal! Shorter and you will not have enough length to kill the big hogs, longer and you can go through a small pig and get a dog or hunter.


Tom

[50 Freak]

I'm leaning towards a Scottish claymore. But that's just me.

I second that motion.....

P.S. start the hunt by saying "TODAY IS GOOD DAY TO DIE":evil: :evil: :evil:

And have someone back you up with a 50 cal at 100 yards away.

[Rem700]

Yep not a custom the bayonet works well, I was always more concerned about the guy with a back up gun then the hog when SHTF. A hog may cripple you but a 45 to the head would just suck.

[Harley Quinn]

Boy you said it. Watch out for the back up guy,:uhoh: the life he takes may be yours.:eek:

Been said more then once, around the guys I use to hang with, and now only visit occasionally.

If it is a head shot no problem, but the others really hurt. Spear into the leg while skin diving is fun also.:cuss:

HQ:D

PS:Tom, nice photos. Thanks

[hso]

Good looking knife, Tom. Do you prefer a balance forward of the guard on a hog knife or just at the guard?

[Don Gwinn]

Is that intended to be a finger-ring? It looks to me like it would be a small ring. Maybe used every once in awhile, but there's a lot of grip behind it. I'd treat that ring like any other guard.

It's a beautiful knife either way. Good luck with your pig-sticking. If the pig gets you, I assume the other guys split up your gear, so somebody goes home a winner either way.
:evil:

[Valkman]

Good to see you here Tom - I'm taking the knives if I win! :D

[Tom Krein]

HSO, the balance is right at the guard! I prefer the balance to be at the guard or behind as this makes the knife very quick. It makes if feel like a feather.

Many times I have been told that I NEED to tapper the tang on my bigger knives. Sure it will make the entire knife lighter....but it will move the balance point way out on the blade and your "lighter" knife just got slow. Same reason swords have those big round pommels made of brass or steel. Balance is everything, and all things being equal a balance point from the guard back will make for a very quick knife.

Don G. The ring is actually pretty good sized on Dan's knife. It is deceptive as it is a big mother.....of course Dans girl hands make it seem even bigger:neener: :D

Dan L.,
Can't believe I did not know about this place! So far really liking it! You should reconsider going on the hunt if you win....and make yourself a pig knife!!:evil:

Tom

[Harley Quinn]

The Phllippinos know a lot about making knives and where the balance is.

I have a board that shows about 20, that were and are made in the "Moroland of Mindanao", interesting. Each was special, to tribes and what they thought worked best.

The Barong or Balasiong, are pretty basic. The term "pig stabber" comes to mind when I see the ones here:p

Cutting the throat seems to be popular over there (Phillippines & Indonesia). Bleed out quick and fast. That is what I have been told anyway.

Bow and arrow have that advantage also, they get hit and then they bleed out.
It is quiet and deadly.:)

HQ

['Card]

You know... I've jumped out of airplanes, rappelled out of helicopters, raced motorcycles at 150+ mph, ran some of the continent's hairiest whitewater, done a lot of rock climbing and spelunking, stayed outside through a few hurricanes, and even criticized my wife's cooking once (once) - but there's no way you could convince me to wade in there with a knife to kill a hog.

See, what all that stuff has in common is that I was doing something inherently dangerous, but I was using the best tools available to manage the risk. With this kind of thing, you're intentionally denying yourself the best tool (a gun) in order to artificially increase the danger, and I just don't see the appeal in that.

I guess I just believe that if you look for it, there's plenty of excitement to be had from life, and plenty of chances to test your manhood, without having to fabricate a situation where danger exists.

[Harley Quinn]

When going to the fair, which ride you want to go on. Or which event do you want to participate in at the rodeo.

This just happens to be what he wants to do. Why do we have to judge it???:confused:
It is legal and it is something that is sort of a tradition among these guy's.:p
They make knive's and offer prizes. Simple. He is going to try to get the prize.:D
HQ

['Card]

You're right, HQ - and I apologize if that came out sounding like I was judging him. Not my place, none of my business, and wasn't really my intent.

I have to admit, it does baffle me a bit, though. Nothing wrong with that, I guess. There are a lot of people on the planet who think my hobbies are stupid. :cool:

[Valkman]

If I go I'll be the guy in the back with the .44 Mag saying "Tom! Get the hell outta the way! He chewing on the arm he just ripped off of you so let me shoot him!" :p

[pendentive]

Well...I think that within every knifemaker is a burning desire to connect with the inner primitive man. That's why many of us got into knifemaking in the first place. A knife is the ultimate tool and has been around a very, very long time. The more we modernize (as a society), the more distance we place between ourselves and that primitive man.

Psycho-Analysis Hat now OFF...



I plan on having a freakin' good time....hanging with some great guys...fartin' it up till dawn (right, Tom? :D)...sharing knives, stories, adventures...and oh, perhaps a Trophy Hog will be in my future. :evil:


In the meantime, you guys keep thinking of me as a brass-balled, nut-job, knuckle-draggin' fool....I'm cool with that. :neener:

[hso]

Tom,

Don't listen to 'em. If you taper the tang and move the balance forward you've got to put a fitted guard in place to move the balance back towards the finger and make the blade lively again. Another way to get away with it is to use real 1/4" stock and taper the guard and taper the blade so that the balance comes out at the index finger. Of course then you're waisting steel and time and belts and... to get the esthetics of a tapered tang.

'Card,

How much control of the river did we ever have in class 3-5 water regardless of the swoopy boat and the carbon fiber paddle and brain bucket?;)

[JTW Jr.]

Tom you check on my AirConditioned shooting station yet ? Something about 100 yards out from the nearest hog is fine. ;)

[Leadbutt]

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=395533&highlight=Ruben


If you look at this link you will see the knife I'm having made, for hogs,,it will be carbon instead od Damascus, should work out well,

Blade is pitched just right for the stab and its 9"

[Valkman]

That's nice, Leadbutt! I love Ruben's stuff.

[Terrierman]

That is a remarkable knife. Good luck on your hunt and I hope your knife works out great for you.

I have a couple of friends here in Missouri that have done the pig hunting with dogs. On the trip they went on, one pig was stabbed, the other was tied up and hauled out live on the back of a four wheeler. I understand it was quite a ride.

I delivered a rather large Jack Russell earlier this year to another acquaintance in Texas who hunts pigs with dogs. They stab them too, I guess the brush is so thick where they hunt that shooting pig and missing dog is an iffy proposition at best. Last I heard the Russell was hanging in there quite well. This group armors their dogs with Kevlar, I guess it helps the dogs last a little longer if the pig gets in the right place and the dog is in the wrong place.

I wish I had heard about this sort of thing before I got to be 55 and with horribly terribly bad knees, it sounds like a near ultimate adrenaline rush.

[Dr.Rob]

http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=10990&d=1077650396

this is my pig-sticking rig.

I think for a real hunt I'd grap the grip with rubber bands for a better grip, but I like the traditional look of the Bagwell Ontario Bowie. This is a 'plainsman'.

[pendentive]

Nice setup, Rob!

That'll get the job done, for sure.

[rbmcmjr]

I've been following this whole event with great enthusiasm, planning for what I will use when/if I win the raffle. Besides, another excuse to spend money on knives is always welcome. Being the personality type that I am, I of course elected for complete overkill. I sent this Ted Frizzell/MMHW custom bowie to John Gonzalez ( http://www.dervishknives.com/ ) for larger and more agressively contoured custom slabs and a sharpened top clip. John's first knives offered under the Dervish name were blades from MMHW with his own slabs and finishes, so I thought he was the perfect man for the job.

1/4" thick 5160 (like all of Ted's big blades), 12" primary grind, 7" clip, 19.5" overall. It is bigger than most would recommend, but you know the saying:

"Go big, or go home!"

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b240/rbmcmjr/starlightbowie.jpg

Rick

[JTW Jr.]

Gonz grinds a mean blade no doubt , I never get tired of seeing his knives or his awesome leather sheaths he does. That is a sweet blade you got there.

[pendentive]

Count me among the Gonz fans. :evil:

[saddlebum]

i've been on two of these hunts. not as the sticker but as an observer, first guy's hand slid down the blade , killed the hog but need 34 stiches to close his hand. so pick a knife with a good hand guard.

second guy stuck the pig and then made a hasty retreat with knife flailing in the air. cut the dog handler on the back as he went by. know when and when not to have the knife out.

[Sir Aardvark]

Sorry man... but I've got a family to support.

[azrael]

Dan,
I still say ya need a bigger knife..:neener:


My hog knife is being designed right now....by me!;)

11-12" blade from 5/15 or 3/8 A-2 ( I got short arms and want more reach!)

2-2 1/4" stock

15-17 degree taper at the end

Sharpened swedge 2-2.5 inchs back from tip

MIGHT do serrations at the end just for giggles

Cocobolo AND Black canvas micarta handles (Interchangeable)

Scales screwed on and can be taken off to attach knife to poll for use as a spear

Am I missing anything?

[loandr.]

If your going with Tom, John and the Gang Please be:) careful and watch the pups dammit :-)! AND enjoy yourself sir;)

LD
BoerBoelGuy on USN

[cameron.personal]

Man I wish I was going!

First time I "rode along" on a dog and dagger hunt, I was 15, fun times in New Zealand.

Here is a great site with some pics and video of some Dog & Dagger hunts...

http://monteriaboarhunts.co.nz/index.htm

http://monteriaboarhunts.co.nz/images/gallery3/jason2_lg.jpg

[hso]

Larry Harley's back up on his feet and has asked me to go on a knife hunt this fall. We'll see :scrutiny:

[Harley Quinn]

I don't see any tusks though.

I wonder if the area of "New Zealand" only has Pigs without tusks. Those dogs need a collar that will protect their neck if they encounter "tusks".

My thought anyway.

HQ;)

[Geno]

I thought hunting a boar with my WWI Colt 1911 was risky! Not only is this downright insane, it's downright thrilling! Looks fun, challenging, and risky too. I would not want to hunt one with a knife. That is just looks too risky, but, with a spear sounds...now that sounds challenging, and to boot, moderately safer. New Zeeland, huh? Hmm.

Cold Steel makes a spear for just this purpose. A couple of years back, a gentleman was doing such a hunt at Renegade Ranch (northern Michigan) and used a spear. The guide said that when he stuck the boar, it spun and snapped the handle, taking the spear with it. Sure it did die sometime later, but more important, it left the man defenseless. Had it spun on him, instead of fleeing, he would have been in trouble. I finally located the Cold Steel spears:

http://www.coldsteel.com/spears-high-performance-spears.html

Doc2005

[tellner]

Like I say, this is the Wimpy White-Guy version :)

Filipino acquaintances of my wife's family overin Hawaii do it the harder way - with just one or two dogs to find the pig. The only problem they have is walking around quietly. The *clang* *clang* *clang* of ten pounds of solid brass testicles can get noisy.

Years back I was looking something else up and came across an article in the British Medical Journal about injuries caused by pigs in Melanesia. "Most exsanguinated on the spot. Those who got to hospital had wounds that were long, wide, deep, jagged and septic and required irrigation and delayed closure." The problem was worst with British or Aussie hunters on vacation. They'd go out with a shotgun to hunt, I dunno, Poland-Chinas. When they surprised 300kg of bristly, mean, cunning wild boar they tended to get their femoral arteries ripped out. The locals take several dogs and at least two spears. The dogs are trained to bite the boar on the scrotum.

Richard the First or Third had a bestiary which declared "The Pigge is the fellest of all beastes and will soonest slay a manne." He was probably onto something.

[cameron.personal]

NZ pigs have tusks that's for sure...
http://monteriaboarhunts.co.nz/images/gallery3/oneear_lg.jpg

http://www.monteriaboarhunts.co.nz/forum/download.php?id=2342

http://www.monteriaboarhunts.co.nz/forum/download.php?id=2343

http://www.monteriaboarhunts.co.nz/forum/download.php?id=2098

[cameron.personal]

Looking at the knife in the first post... I think you might need a bigger sticker...

http://www.monteriaboarhunts.co.nz/forum/download.php?id=1627

[pendentive]

cool pics - thanks!

The heart is low and the best place to enter is behind the front leg. Here's an anatomy pic:

http://www.jesseshunting.com/images/hog-vitals.jpg

Most guys I've seen do it succesfully had 7-9 inches of blade (for the larger hogs) and went in quickly, wiggled up-n-down a bunch, and came right out.

[13.45]

seems like that'd be some fun! please let us know how it turns out

[Harley Quinn]

cameron.personal:
Thanks for the pics and the information. The dogs look familar, are you breeding those? The one looks like a "Dogo Argentino".

Or do you buy from someone who is doing it especially for the pig hunts? This group is collar-less also.

Pendentive:
Thanks for the anatomy pic.

HQ:)

[freedom and guns]

hunt pigs with a knife. Firearms were invented, use them people are crazy these days. Read this then do it. http://www.a-human-right.com/martial.html

[hso]

All you guys that are so violently opposed to this need to realize that knife hog hunts have been going on for a very long time. I've known about them for over 20 years and have been invited on them for the past 10 years. Yes, people do rarely get injured, but it's the dogs that make the hunt work. It's not something that anyone who's planning on doing it sounds like they've taken lightly. Let's show a little more respect for our members (even those nuts enough to go after a 250lb hog with a knife;) ).

[freedom and guns]

Don't be primitive.

[rbmcmjr]

Got my knife back from John Gonzalez. He did a great job replacing the flat slabs of natural micarta with beautifully carved green linen. The top clip is insanely sharp.

Shown with a Busse Fusion Steel Heart and Reeve Shadow I to show the scale:

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b240/rbmcmjr/pigsticker2.jpg

[cameron.personal]

It is an important thing to use "enough gun" when hunting. It is even more important to use "enough knife" when hunting pigs...

[Huntress]

ok....

First off, pig sticking usually happened AFTER you had the squeeling pig dangling by the ankles. You need to bleed the pig - hence the need to "stick" it with a VERY sharp and thin knife (while it is still alive - at least that's what they did BEFORE PETA.)

That's why those knives are called pig stickers - because you can penetrate the tough hide and bleed them quick like. :scrutiny:

NOW....

The idea you came up with for hand to hand combat with a 600+ mass of low-rider fury is totally a joke.

With that out of the way... Was wondering if any of you know about the Feral Russian Boar population here in Nevada. There are few and far between excerpts in the news - nothing I can use to plan a hunt around. :confused:

I'm part of a women's hunting group and am looking for a suitable hunt for the more experienced of us. (big game tags in Nevada are by lotto :barf: )....

So if anyone knows anything about the wild boar population (no regs through NDOW can be found) your information would be greatly appreciated. ;)

Thank you very much,

Huntress
hvogel@helloworld.com

[silverlance]

heh i need to get me one of those boars, get him all friendly-like, put him on a leash and walk him past that pit bull mutt that took a bite out of my dog and i not so long ago... i'd like to see him bark at THAT!

if i had to hunt boar without a firearm i would bring a shield and a boar spear with a nice fat crossbar.

and i would be the first guy to say, well, that was fun, let's go home and have a coke, shall we?

[ArmyAviator]

Come to Alabama.....biggest, baddest tuskers you want. Without a firearm...sure....wait..hold on...lemme get my camera. :D

--Bryant.

[4fingermick]

I'm sorry, I'm not sure if that's your correct handle, but the rest of sitting bulls quote would be appropriate,

'Today is a good day to die, cowards to the rear, brave hearts to the front!'

Actually, hunting pigs is very common in Australia. Dogs are plated up and let loose and the guys follow on foot. When a pig is baled up, the hunter grabs a leg and gets the pig off balance and slips out the knife and sticks it. Usually holding the leg until the pig shows signs of fading, which is not long if stuck properly (hence the saying, bled like a stuck pig).

Some guys use fancy knives, but most of my friends prefer bayonets, they were built to stick with and they are cheap and if you drop it, big deal!

I would'nt be using that finger bender, after losing a finger, I'm a bit fussy. Also a knife with saw cuts, etc will stick inside and hamper bleeding. I like a hilt thats going to stop my hand from slipping down the blade if covered in blood. It doesn't have to be all that sharp (apart from the point), the idea is to get it in and then get it out so that the blood loss works to kill the pig. Bayonets are brilliant for this.

Pigging is actually more poplar nowadays here because a lot of guys can't be bothered with the trouble associated with the strict gun laws.

I'll probably buy a horse now that I'm about to retire (and live in the same place) and I will give this a go again, I'm too old to run after the dogs, but I'd still like to get in there. Mick.

[Harley Quinn]

What you are saying makes a lot of sense. The knive's I see being used are for looks. Think about the slippery hand on the real nice slick handled "no protection to slip down on the blade" knife.

The bayonet on the end of an SKS is the way to go for most hunts. IMHO.
That would be without dogs, "you and the beast". Stalking in his backyard and all that.

I have found that the bayonet is one of my favorite's. I just purchased another off the web of late. The "Marine Corps bayonet" with sheath. It will ride on my hip on the next hunt.

There is a fellow I know that goes to the Indonesia area, to hunt them. Said they were really superior to the ones in the states. Pretty expensive way to go, but he has relatives and makes it over there once every 4 or 5 years.
To bad about Steve Irwin (Croc hunter), freak accident, seems to be the way for these dare devil guys. No better way to go then doing what you like to do. He was one of my favorites, "Gutsy".

HQ:)

[Leadbutt]

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m13/DaveJames1/pigsticker1_big.jpg



This is the one I had Ruben do for me,,

[pendentive]

Huntress - Welcome to the High Road! :)

Sorry I can't be of help to your specific area...if you've got any hog hunting stories...feel free to share them here.





There are some great looking knives in this thread. As was stated before...even a simple bayonet can get the job done. The rest is just for fun...which is ok with me - because, as a knifemaker...I just gotta build something custom for the hunt. :evil: :neener: :eek: :rolleyes:

[Harley Quinn]

Now that is a nice Knife.

HQ:)

[deadin]

I don't know. You must have little piggies in your area. The last feral hog I saw taken on a ranch around here ran a good 400-450 lbs and had 6 inch + tusks.

Dean

[pendentive]

Finished up my "companion" knife:


http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=44804&stc=1&d=1158159722

[JShirley]

Dan,

I'm not sure what it's for, but I'm certain there's a market.

John

[up_onus]

if you do that, PLEASE record it. So i can either laugh my ass off or be truely amazed at how truely couragous you are.
After the pig, might as well go after bigger game! mountainlions and bears and tigers oh my!

[pendentive]

Sounds good to me.

As long as I can find some dogs to hold the Lion by the ears, and a guide to hold him by the tail while I fish around for my knife...LOL....:what: :neener: :D

[JMusic]

I met a New York Fireman once that was heading to Colorado to hunt black bear with a spear. Spear was about 10 ft long and he had hammered out the spear head simular to an Indian broadhead. Not sure how he made out.:D
Jim

[Steve Wynn]

Back in the early '80's I hunted wild boar at Telico Junction Hunting Preserve with a spear, J.D. Jones of SSK challenged me to attempt it, and the event was published in The Sixgunner. I never succeeded in killing with it, having to pull the .44 each time. You can get banged up a bit, but as long as you stay on your feet your belly won't get cut. Boar have a bad reputation, mostly hype. Like most any wild animal, the boar will try to get away from humans and dogs. But with the small lungs, the hills, etc. they don't run for miles and miles like a deer would. We also caught a couple live after being cornered unhurt by the dogs. Don't let anyone it can't be done with a knife. It can! The late Al Mar did it many times. Most of the wild boar will be about 200 pounds although some of the hunting lodges will have some of the real big ones in the 300-400 pound range.

Steve

[hso]

Welcome to THR, Steve.

[CSA 357]

back in the good ole days they used to let there hogs run wild, they had dogs to catch them and tie them up and put them in a pen, if it was a male pig they would catch them and cut em, i think my dad said they marked there ears so they could tell whos was whos, so i dont see the big deal about killing them with a knife,if you have good dogs all the ones i caught was with a bolt action rifle!:D *csa* ( i do wish i had a place to hand gun hunt hogs)

[tellner]

What happens when you fight a wild boar (http://www.kanglaonline.com/index.php?template=headline&newsid=33863&typeid=2) with a "homemade gun" and no knife.

[pendentive]

LOL!!! :evil:

[huge]

Hi Guys, Just stumbled across this thread. Here in Oz we hunt with dogs and knives all the time. Some people have specialised teams of dogs they use, with the usual makeup being scent dogs/bailers, luggers and holders. One bloke I knew had a team of 6 dogs - 2 scenters, 2bailers, and 2 luggers. With this combo he could be pretty sure of catching 7 out of every 10 pigs in a mob. They were a pretty handy pack and the holders held some pretty impressive pigs over the years.
I've shot pigs with rifle, pistol, handgun, shotgun, bow, crossbow, spear, sword, on foot from bikes, quads and vehicles, to even running them down on horseback.
My favoured method is to use Sheep/cattle dog and a rifle, either from horseback or from a bike. If you come across a mob of 5 or more, just use the dog to muster them out towards some open country, call him off (preferably onto the back of the bike) and just start at the back & pick em off. so long as you start at the back they will stay together - drop the leader and they will scatter. Less than 5, just bail em up, call the dog back and drop em. Too easy. It's the quickest way to get through a mob. As for pig stickers, well anything with a sharp point, minimum 9" blade and a decent hand guard as well as being sharp will do the trick.
Cheers,
Huge

[Byron Quick]

Any of you guys every been run over by a hog? One that had time to get up to speed? I have. Ain't gonna happen again, either.

Rob Pincus does this stuff. And he's welcome to it. If that hog gets loose and decides that the only way out is over you...you're going to be laying there wondering why he didn't just cut you to pieces with his tusks mercifully.

I've been hit playing football, I've been in collisions with hard clay embankments, I've slid on pavement from laying down motorcycles. I've been hit so hard in a fight that a ring was flung off my finger. It wasn't a loose fitting ring.

None of those were the hardest I've ever been hit. That goes to a sow. I made the mistake of getting between her and one of her pigs. I was lying there like Beetle Bailey after Sarge gets through with a drubbing, I raised my head and she was flinging dirt everywhere as she turned around for another run at me. I cleared that hog fence by levitation.

[huge]

Once the dogs have the pig by the ears, just slip on in from behind, lift a back leg with the non-master hand (pigs back right leg with your left hand, your right leg slightly forward, blade in your right. Keep that sucker close and stay in control) and drive the blade in behind the shoulder blade. remember that a pigs heart sits low in the chest so point down as you go in. the aim is to make the largest wound channel in the quickest time - pin the heart and it's all over in a minute.

If it all turns to **** - get in close and DON'T LET GO!!! At least not until you are back in control again. remember - A pig cannot bend it's spine like a dog or cat, so therefore if you hang on and stay at the back you won't get hurt, if you let go god help you.
From the shoulders forward they are pure muscle - try to wrestle with that and you will lose. the pigs "achilles heel" is that he cannot bend his spine and therefore is vulnerable to attack from the rear (I can hear the s******s already - go get stuffed, we didn't film Deliverance). Remember that and you'll
be right.
As for staying in close - ask a farrier where he would want to stand if a horse was about to kick him - I bet he says in close so that there is no momentum in the blow (same as martial artists moving inside blows to gain the advantage and to take the sting out of there opponents attacks).

Send me a pic when you get him

In Oz we have a saying "Any mug (fool) can grab a pig, but it takes a real man to let one go!!"

[hso]

Welcome to THR, Huge!

How'd you find out about us?

[Boom-stick]

You know... I've jumped out of airplanes, rappelled out of helicopters, raced motorcycles at 150+ mph, ran some of the continent's hairiest whitewater, done a lot of rock climbing and spelunking, stayed outside through a few hurricanes, and even criticized my wife's cooking once (once)

I'm showing this post to my wife so she knows I'm not the only one out that does stuff like this.:D


HUGE,

Good post and welcome.

HOGs and BLADES rock!!! with the wild boar population growing as rapidly as it is over here we may even get pig-sticking on the agenda too.:)

[huge]

Hi again,
Found you guys by accident, punched 'piggin knives' into gogle and your site popped up.
It's saturday over here at the moment - only 3 more sleeps until I get out to mum & dads to chase some porkers again (it's only been 7months!!!!!!!!!!).
Can't wait, my family have a 30,000acre sheep and cattle station (ranch) in north west new south wales. I grew up there and did school of the air (correspondence with a HF radio to talk to your teachers) until it was time to go to boarding school at 12yrs old (man, that next 6yrs was the worst time of my life). Hell up until then I'd spent a week at most inside a classroom, and work always came before school - it was just fitted in around everything else. I landed in Sydney, 800miles from home, not knowing what homework or detentions were. Took me 6 months to figure it out and 6 years to figure out how to do it. All kidding aside one of dads old school mates was the vice principal and a really nice guy. He moved a desk into his office and that was where I did my homework every afternoon before he would let me go back to the boarding house. Between him and Rev. God (short for Godfrey), they straightened me out pretty quick. Old Rev. God was an old bushie from way back so we hit it off pretty well. I'm 31 now and still keep track of those two men - without then I don't reckon I would have made it through school. Kids can be absolute bastards when they think they have found a weak link. Took me 5 1/2years to figure out that they were all bluff, took the biggest bullies best shot, laughed in his face & threw him out a second storey window (the awning on the verandah broke his fall). Thats what happens when you let loose with 5.5yrs of pent up rage at the prick that is the main cause of your misery. After that they didn't know whether to push there luck or not. Being private school boys they were to used to playing follow the leader and running in a pack. (like shooting wild dogs - drop the leader and clean up the rest in the confusion).

Back to the present, Living in sunny Queensland now(Brisbane), because I married a city girl who won't live in the country, have 3 kids b8, b5, g2.5, and the air force doesn't have bases out in the middle of nowhere - not on my aircraft type anyway.

Always funny when your guys come across here and comment on our 'flying museum' - seriously thats what they think my squadron is (caribous), they tend to get a bit embaressed then they realise there mistake. They fly alright for a throwaway aircraft from the vietnam war. You guys pushed them off the sides of aircraft carriers on the way home - typical aussies went "these things go alright - might take a couple home" 40 years later and they are still flying. Only plane thats allowed to have oil leaks, the standard joke is that we take a 4 gallon drum of fuel and a 44 of oil on our trips.
Seriously they are an awesome plane for there role - beat an F-111 to a thousand feet, fly so slow that modern fighters can't get a lock on us, take off or land in the length of a footy field. Thats what we do STOL, short takeoff and landing. No sweat airlines - specialists at getting in where it's hot, wet and tight. Ladies don't take offence - it on our badges. Ever seen some of those strips on resort islands where it just runs from one side to the other?? well in New Guinea (north of oz(just))we have those strips on mountain tops at 10,000 feet( imagine a 10,000' tall mesa!!). Some even have a dogleg in them, just long enough to pull up on - then turn her around, flat biccies down hill and around the bend, drop off the side into space and full stick back and up she goes!! friggin' awesome to experience. That's not bad praise from someone that doesn't even like planes all that much.
Oh yeah, we are also the only developed country in the southern hemisphere to still run a radial piston engined aircraft. 2 engines = 28 cylinders, I would love to strap one of these 2000BHP babies into a chassis and run her across the salt flats - just to see what would happen.

'Till next time - if your not sick of my life story so far,

See you when the whips are cracking
Huge.

[.38 Special]

Never mind the nay-sayers. They're probably the ones that think "hunting" involves a .338 Lapua, a range finder, and a buck that's in another zip code. :neener:

Dangerous game with a knife -- THAT'S hunting! Maybe you should try for Cape Buffalo next!

Seriously, find a copy of "The Rifle and Hound in Ceylon" by Samuel Baker. He was taking elk with dogs and a knife. Felt that shooting them with the new-fangled breechloaders was unsporting.

[tellner]

That is the sort of thing you get props for as a Mighty Hunter. The long high-tech, no-risk, bullet-arrives-by-UPS sort, nah.

I like hunting even though I'm lousy at it. I like being around better hunters - might learn something - but one of the least pleasant half hours I've ever spent was with a hunter. He just plain liked to kill things. He'd been all over the world, never killed what he ate, just took trophies and spent an inordinate time talking about the guns and cartridges he used. Common, endangered, male, female it didn't matter. It was the kill and the head that got him excited. Usually from far enough away that the animal couldn't see him.

I guess I should be glad that it was critters he liked to kill, not people :uhoh:

[.38 Special]

A half hour with J.D. Jones, eh? :D

[pendentive]

Got the sheath - from Kenny Rowe of Hope, Arkansas. Excellent work!

Here it is:

http://usualsuspect.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=125630&stc=1&d=1161407976


http://usualsuspect.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=125631&stc=1&d=1161408082

Held in by Kenny's Pin Lock system (solid as a rock) and built like a tank. Just amazing.


We leave Monday morning!

[Alvin in AZ]

Cool Pendentive! :)

I'm sure gald you posted this I hadn't seen the thread yet, just joined yesterday. :)

You know it wasn't really all that long ago, all a guy had was some dogs and a sharp stick when he went hunting. :) That's all you really need.

Larry Harley invited me to go on a free hog hunt back in the 90's but I was too friggin sick to go so he ok'ed a substitue, my lion and bear huntin buddy. But dangged if he hadn't up and found a woman in the meantime which of course put a stop to all that sort of travelin out of the state kind of fun. :)

It's the dogs! It's all about the dogs. Larry Harley was running Plott hounds. We had several Plott hounds and only one of them was any good for what we needed them for the most "cold trailing" or "stike dog". As far as back-up Harley told me they have a couple shotgunners along just in case things go bad. That's how a guide does things. :) My lion huntin buddy and his ranching family never thought ahead like that, ever, it was always just in a days work. Crazy bunch, no doubt about that. :) You're fixin to step into the same situation I'm talkin about... it's pretty dangged cool. :)

I had the best javelina grabber in the state of Arizona back in the 80's. Not because I'm so good :/ but instead because he was. :) Border terrier named Harry. Nope, nothing ever got a hold of him, I lost him the same way we got 'im, he crawled into someone elses vehicle while in town and they took him. :)

My lion huntin buddy gave Harry to me.
My first and only bear was Harry's 9th bear. :)

Have fun! :)

Alvin in AZ

[Barr]

First off for those of you who do hunt with knives, I applaud your tenacity and courage. I like all my limbs attached and if I was hurt doing this my fiance would be more than just a little bit upset. So I have a question for you....

Why bring a knife to a gun fight? :D Just light hearted teasing but I would much rather have 50 ounces of double action Ruger stainless steel ready to dish out 6 full house loads of 300 grains of .44 Mag before I tangled with a hog up close.

[pendentive]

Dang....I shoulda listened to the guys sayin' that ring in my knife was a hazard....


http://www.hogsnknives.com/2006huntpics/HogHunt015.jpg

































NOT!!! :neener: :neener: :cool: :evil: :D

http://www.hogsnknives.com/2006huntpics/HogHunt016.jpg










I got-'er-done....piece-o-cake. Was like cuttin butter. Two quick well-placed pokes and he was a goner.

http://www.hogsnknives.com/2006huntpics/HogHunt030.jpg



A peek at the heart...


in one side...

http://www.hogsnknives.com/2006huntpics/IMG_0099.jpg


out the other...

http://www.hogsnknives.com/2006huntpics/IMG_0100.jpg


The credit, though...goes entirely to the well-trained dogs we had and their competent guide. (fourseasonshunting.com)

Had one heckuva time!

[Alvin in AZ]

COOL! :)

Pendentive, I was wondering if you were dead. ;)

I wasn't kidding about the dogs tho huh?

Some good dogs and a couple guys and some sharp sticks or clubs and there ain't much "men" can't kick butt on out there. :)

Alvin in AZ

[.38 Special]

Good on ya mate! That's hunting!

[hso]

WELL DONE!

Glad to see Mr. Piggie didn't take of any of your "little piggies".:neener:

[chickenfried]

Great job, now that's hunting! I like the excuses people make cause they're too chicken to give this a try. I'm also too chicken but I suck at making excuses :p .

[Alvin in AZ]

ChickenFried... LOL! :)

But really, it's not all that big of a deal, the dogs do the "hunting" and then do all the dirty work too. :)

How about following in a few javelinas into a mine drift? :)
BTDT a bunch of times and they ran back and forth by me too.
They were way to busy dealing with my Border terrier to give a hoot about me! I never got grabbed inside a mine.

I shot my one and only bear (in the neck) from 4 feet off the muzzel.
She wasn't interested in me, she had my Border terrier and about 8 or 10 coon hounds a couple rhodesian ridgebacks to keep her busy.

A friend of mine grabbed the tail of a femaile mountain lion and dragged her out of the big rocks she was in where the dogs couldn't get her out... so we could chase her somemore (we had almost all "puppies" that day).

No kidding... with some good dogs and one or two guys with sharp sticks there ain't much out there "man" can't kick butt on.

Even more. Picture handling some of those young (and full of themselves) bulls with no dogs, just a coulple guys with ropes and a branding iron and emasculators (or pocket knife) can get the job done and have the "leftovers" for supper.

You are selling yourself short... although in a very humorous way! ;)

Imagine taking on the opposing football team by yourself as opposed to being trained as a team and being just one part. That's the way you are talking. ;)

I'm not a hunter (just a shooter) and I'm not a cowboy, just a dumb railroad signalape but BTSeenT and was able to join-in in no time. Just another man.

Any of us could too, barring physical difficulties.

What Pendentive's got is "BTDT" (and pictures!) is all. ;)

"if it bleeds, we can kill it" -Dutch

Alvin in AZ

[FourTeeFive]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdQ4DJVTJO0

I went to youtube.com and searched "dog hog" and watched a few of these. Sorry guys, doesn't look much like sport to me. Dogs do the work and guide goes "stick knife HERE". A bit too staged for me.

I was going to say it isn't fair to put the dogs in harms way, but watching a few of these videos it looks like the doggies are having a good time! They finally get to do what they are trained to do.

[pendentive]

I'm with you, FourTeeFive...it's really not that much work and the dogs do most of it (and they do enjoy it a lot).

But it is a HUGE adrenaline rush...can be quite stressful and exhausting. So, I wouldn't call it basketweaving...but yes, it pales in comparison to the Indian buffalo hunters of yesteryear...:eek:



p.s. most of those videos have hogs that appear to be under 150 lbs. Ours were 250+ and older (read: meaner) and it does make a difference. Some just don't want to go down without a huge fight...

[Alvin in AZ]

45, point taken. :) Cool video too. :)
As far as I'm concerned it makes my point. :)

As a camper, in a tent, with a flashlight and a box full of food and a bear shows up... yeah that can be bad. ;) But a prepared guy or two and a pack of good dogs and that poor ol dumb bear ain't got a chance.

A human as the leader of a pack of "wolves" can kick butt. ;)

This dumb guy and one little dog (Border terrier) killed a javaline with a stick.
Nothing a kid couldn't do as long as he had at least one good dog too.

Before the genetics tests on dogs came out, showing they really are wolves, I was really hoping they'd find our dogs were related to the wild dogs of Africa. Like the dog has been with us all along or something. Maybe they did we just traded them in for new/better ones? ;)

Alvin in AZ
ps- Pendintive, those pictures are really gross, a guy could be eating or something while reading... :/ so from now on, could you like pixilate-out your face? ;)

[JTW Jr.]

seems a heck of a lot more like hunting than taking an animal from 100 yards away. Great picts and thanks for sharing the info.

[FourTeeFive]

While we're on the subject, can someone tell me if people hunt boar with handguns WITHOUT using dogs? I personally don't hunt, but have always said that if I did it would be against something that truly is a threat to me. So I've always been curious about using a handgun against a really pissed off creature like a boar. On the other hand, if a boar is charging you I imagine there aren't too many typical "defensive" handguns that can effectively penetrate their skulls.

[pendentive]

45 - there are folks who do hunt boars with guns - mostly rifles, and not with dogs. And at a good distance.

Not like these folks:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlVhHeFzwFk

If that's your cup-o-tea, though...knock yourself out. :D

[mierda]

what breed of dog do you use for this?

[pendentive]

Pit bulls (http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/americanpitbull.htm) are Dogo Argentinos (http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/dogo.htm) were what we used.

[chickenfried]

I don't have cable at home. When I go out of town I stay up watching cable at the hotel. Caught a guy on the Versus/OLN channel. Went hog hunting with a knife and dogs for the first time after a bad experience 25 years ago. Looked pretty fun. Guy kinda comes off as bit of a jerk, so it was kinda fun seeing his lame first attempt.

BEST AND WORST OF TRED BARTA (TV-G)
Wild Boar with Knife

[pendentive]

Wish I got OLN here...been wanting to watch that show for a while...anybody got a copy? or willing to record it?

[swampdog]

Guy kinda comes off as bit of a jerk

I finally caught the show Friday night, too. I thought it was one of his better performances. He usually comes off as a complete jerk. :D

Seriously, he didn't do that bad for an overweight, out of shape, "older" guy. I thought it was entertaining, which was it's purpose and more than I can say about some of his other shows.

I'm ready to try it out. We don't have many feral hogs in northeast NC. Can anyone recommend an outfit in southern NC or South Carolina? I would even be willing to drive to Georgia.

[tnieto2004]

bring a .357

[Sniper X]

By Hogs, you mean Javalina, or feral hogs/pigs? I'm going feral pig hunting in March but I AM taking a gun...and a bow, and a few knives.

[pendentive]

wild-n-crazy feral hogs, my friend. The only way to go. :D :neener:

[larry harley]

just fopund this thread
whish i had come accross it sonner
i been guideing hawg hunts w knives for almost 30 yrs now
only lost a few people
and there remains were found in the spring
:) gotcha!!!

ive found that
wide kills better thna long
2 edges kills way better than 1
and i like most dogs better than most people:)
amy questions just ask
harley
luke sky possum

[hso]

Ya'll just ignore Harley. :neener:

He's nuth'n but an dumb ol' overeducated hillbilly who hammers out knife-shaped lumps of steel (http://www.lonesomepineknives.com/knifeimages/littleknife.jpg) that have all these wiggly patterns (http://www.lonesomepineknives.com/GalleryPage.asp?ID=47) and then sticks (http://www.lonesomepineknives.com/knifeimages/bbowienew1.jpg) little ol piglets (http://www.lonesomepineknives.com/siteimages/harleyheadbig.jpg) with them. It's not like he's a knifemaker of renown (http://swordforum.com/summer99/harley.html) or any sort of hog hunter (http://www.lonesomepineknives.com/HawgHunts.asp) or anything.;)

http://swordforum.com/summer99/harley-1.jpg


Larry,

When you sending my knife down?

[larry harley]

ouch
harley

[larry harley]

swampdog
Senior Member


Join Date: 01-20-06
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Quote:
Guy kinda comes off as bit of a jerk
I finally caught the show Friday night, too. I thought it was one of his better performances. He usually comes off as a complete jerk.

Seriously, he didn't do that bad for an overweight, out of shape, "older" guy. I thought it was entertaining, which was it's purpose and more than I can say about some of his other shows.

I'm ready to try it out. We don't have many feral hogs in northeast NC. Can anyone recommend an outfit in southern NC or South Carolina? I would even be willing to drive to Georgia.


swamp dog
i hunt the first day of december every year
it takes place in south carolina about half way between rockhill and columbia
http://www.lonesomepineknives.com/HawgHunts.asp
love to have u go with us this yr
harley
p.s. dont listen to hso hes just jelous
old
and ugly

[timmyb21]

Did it once. The guides frst words to me were "you'll be leaving that pistol here, you shoot one of my dogs and you'll be sh**ing lead after I shove the thing up your a**." It was a .357 mag. I took it off. Wasn't as scary as I thought, just stick when the guide tells you to. BTW the guide was my uncle, so he wasn't just a jerk. He was family.

[wolf_from_wv]

http://www.hesperian.info/assets/WTND/WTND_Chapter_10.pdf

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[Tom Krein]

Larry,
Missed you at Blade this year! Would have loved to talk hogs and knives again!

Every point you made in your first post I agree with 100%!! Especially the part about liking most dogs better!:D

I would love to come hunt with you over your dogs! Might just have to do that in the near future!

The hunt above is one I put together last fall! Gonna do another one this fall...

Tom

[Jason_G]

I knew a guy when I was a kid that hunted hogs like that. He carried a big homemade bowie. He would sharpen your knife for you if he liked you, but there weren't a whole lot of people that he liked. He was kind of ornery that way. Guess you gotta be a little ornery to stick a pig with a knife rather than shoot 'em, anyway :D. One thing I do remember that struck me as odd, he would castrate the boars ASAP. Some of the guys he hunted with said that he would castrate some of them before he even stabbed them for the kill. I thought that was dangerous, and odd to say the least. Never could figure out why he would do that. Anyone have any clue why? I always wondered about that.

Jason