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xMetal
August 15, 2006, 11:11 AM
I saw this today and was mildly amused. Hopefully not a repost.

Apparently this is the worlds smallest revolver. I struggle to think what good this would do, unless you get assaulted by a 12" tall mugger. I think that my BB gun has more punch, so even shooting at a target would be somewhat disappointing I'd imagine. More practically, how would you even hold it to pull the trigger?

I'm pretty sure I got something like that out of a gumball machine when I was little. :D

http://www.swissminigun.com/gallery_steel.html


You: "You dastardly baddie! I will now dispatch you!"

<tiny bangs>

Badguy: "Um, I'd still like your wallet, if you are done and all. If it's not a problem."

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loki.fish
August 15, 2006, 11:41 AM
Lol, I just saw this somewhere else and was gonna post it. It had minigun in the title so you can guess what I was thinking, then got a suprise when it was about that keychain gun.

Brass Fetcher
August 15, 2006, 07:10 PM
And now this from the fearmongers :

http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2006/08/a_new_gun_in_to.html

The dangers of the new Swiss Mini Gun. These people kill me. "It could put a police officers eye out." I can't even hit a target that size at any range (except muzzle) with a NAA mini .22lr. Any guesses on the price of this new evil gun?

JE223

sm
August 15, 2006, 07:22 PM
I respect fine craftsmanship and attention to detail. I happen to feel NAA mini revolvers are one such representative of this.

SwissMiniGun - intrigues me. I would like to see and handle one. I am curious about it - I think it is a great idea!

Falls into that preservation of history of mini cannons and such. The fact it works and all is ...I like the whole concept.


Fear and Whiny Butts - hey they get shorts in a wad if dark cloud comes out, or the TeeVee Guide has a misprint....

Important Part is to educate Folks that "things" are not the problem - it is the INTENT of user with a "thing" they need to educate themselves and not listen to Tyranny disguised as "reputable sources".

I forget whom said it, and exactly how it goes - the idea being just because a lady has certain parts - does not make her a prostitute.


Anyone here have one? I'd like to hear more about SwissMiniGun's from someone that has one.

cdsdss
August 15, 2006, 09:49 PM
I gotta get one. My G.I. Joe will be the best-armed toy on the block.

ceetee
August 15, 2006, 10:08 PM
2.34 mm. AMMUNITION TECHNICAL DATA


Type : Rim fire cartridge Metric English
Calibre: 2.34 mm. 0.092126 in.
Bullet length: 4.53 mm. 0.178346 in.
Bullet weight: 0.128 g. 1.9753 grains
Cartridge length: 6.1 mm. 0.240157 in.
Cartridge diameter: 2.34 mm. 0.092126 in.
Rim diameter: 2.8 mm. 0.110236 in
Live ammunition total length: 9.13 mm. 0.359449 in.
Average V0: 130 m/sec. 426.5 f/sec.
Bullet energy: 1.0888 J. 0.8030 ft-lbf


Not exactly guaranteed for a one-shot stop...

BluesBear
August 16, 2006, 07:04 AM
Not exactly guaranteed for a one-shot stop...Heck, I wouldn't even guarantee a one shot wound.

rustymaggot
August 16, 2006, 07:56 AM
i want to see the gel tests. how much does this thingie cost anyway?

xMetal
August 16, 2006, 10:36 AM
from the comments at the bottom of the ABC article, it looks to be $1000, but that's unconfirmed. There also appears to be debate whether it's even real or not...

boing
August 16, 2006, 06:27 PM
I wonder how many import points it scores under GCA.

Answer: not enough. :D

Of course, if it were classified as a curio maybe I could put my 03 license to work. :p

RyanM
August 16, 2006, 07:00 PM
In gelatin, penetration should be about 2.1". That's enough to break the skin, and penetrate about 2/3rds of an inch beyond that. I want one, though.

telomerase
August 17, 2006, 11:51 PM
That's enough to break the skin, and penetrate about 2/3rds of an inch beyond that.

Just make sure to coat the bullet with VSV-G. (Note: if you get this joke, you're spending too much time in the virus lab).

hammer4nc
September 6, 2006, 02:39 PM
http://img.viacomlocalnetworks.com/images_sizedimage_249110321/lg

Mini Guns Put ATF On Alert

Ti-Hua Chang
Reporting

(CBS) NEW YORK Federal ATF Agents issued an officer safety advisory on what is called the world’s smallest gun after a CBS 2 inquiry. The Alert has been issued both in the New York and nationally to all Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives criminal investigators and will be passed on to other federal agencies.

ATF has confiscated thousands of disguised or miniature guns -- from flashlights that shoot a .25 caliber bullet to pen guns.

The latest miniature gun that is alarming ATF agents is the SwissMiniGun. It’s extremely small -- just over two inches long. It comes with tiny bullets designed especially for the weapon that can penetrate skin. Even in its holster, this gun is so small that law enforcement experts say it could pass for a keychain ornament.

According to William McMahon, special agent in charge of the New York ATF office, that makes it the perfect stealth weapon for a variety of criminals.

“A terrorist, a criminal trying to sneak into bank, all kinds of criminals. I can see no legitimate reason to own this gun. It seems to be just made to be hidden,” McMahon said.

As its name indicates, the SwissMiniGun is manufactured in Switzerland. CBS 2 News reached the company's CEO, Paul Erard, by phone.

He said the gun is a miniature, detailed copy of the Colt Python revolver. He sells it for roughly $5,000 to gun collectors (though he added that most of his guns are encrusted with diamonds and gold, so they can cost $30,000).

He said he has sold 50 miniguns, all to only one area of the world. “Contacts in the Middle East asked me to make a miniature of Colt Python," said Erard.

Erard refused to say which Middle-Eastern countries. His reaction when asked if terrorists might use it? At first he laughed and said, “ Absolutely ridiculous.”

When CBS 2 got him to admit his gun shoots bullets using gunpowder, he then changed his tone. “Of course I am concerned as manufacturers of air guns are concerned. This is not a toy,” said Erard.

A national police organization notes that unlike air guns, SwissMiniGuns can be concealed and shoot with gunpowder bullets that travel at 400-plus feet per second. These bullets could be aimed at the face.

Joe Occhipinti of the National Police Defense Foundation was alarmed by the SwissMiniGun’s potential uses, noting, “In a routine stop, a guy could certainly make a joke, and 'Say see my little gun here?' point at the officer and shoot. It looks like a key chain and [an officer’s] guard would be down."

Occhipinti added, "I could easily see a passenger attempting to go to an airport take out a key chain put in with coins in the little basket. No one would detect that."

SwissMiniGuns cannot be legally imported into the United States because the barrel is less than three inches long -- in this case, a lot less.

No SwissMiniGuns have been recovered here yet, but McMahon admits, “If it came into the United States, it would be a concern.”

This alert is the result of a single officer in Maryland seeing the gun on a Web site and alerting other officers, including the National Police Defense Foundation.

CBS 2 News learned of the weapon and passed word on to the ATF. It is an example of officers using the Internet the way some terrorists do but in this case, to combat them.

(© MMVI, CBS Broadcasting Inc. All Rights Reserved.)

:what: :uhoh: http://www.fusionlangaming.com/forum/images/smilies/tinfoil.gif

1911austin
September 6, 2006, 03:10 PM
Joe Occhipinti of the National Police Defense Foundation was alarmed by the SwissMiniGun’s potential uses, noting, “In a routine stop, a guy could certainly make a joke, and 'Say see my little gun here?' point at the officer and shoot. It looks like a key chain and [an officer’s] guard would be down."


The officer would be in greater danger from being stabbed with the ball point pen you are using to sign the ticket than this thing. Give me a break!

Axman
September 6, 2006, 03:26 PM
Considering that most CO2 propelled .177 pellet pistols will penetrate a 3" thick phone book or catalogue, I'm not sure if I'd want a novelty gun like that. Unless of course I was mouse hunting!:D

PotatoJudge
September 6, 2006, 04:28 PM
The action looks pretty Colt-like. Any other guns use a mainspring like that?

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