Most gun-friendly states


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Ladybug
May 7, 2003, 06:24 PM
I'm sure there's been a similar thread before... But I'm casting my net wide, and without doing a ton of research was just hoping for your votes -- what are the most gun-friendly states?

Thanks!

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4Truck
May 7, 2003, 06:28 PM
We seem to have it pretty good here in Virginia

jsalcedo
May 7, 2003, 06:28 PM
Florida, Texas, Vermont, Idaho, New Mexico, Arizona, Utah
Oklahoma, Alaska (not particularly in that order)

Hkmp5sd
May 7, 2003, 06:35 PM
Everything legal at the federal level is legal in Florida. The "shall-issue" Florida CCW accepted by more states. CCW exempt from waiting period. State firearms laws supersede all local laws. The right of the individual to keep and bear arms is written in the State Constitution.

StuporDave
May 7, 2003, 07:00 PM
Glad to see New Mexico on that list. I'm half-seriously thinking of a move there.

Dave

Darrin
May 7, 2003, 07:06 PM
Tennessee and Kentucky aren't too bad. :cool:

mgjohn
May 7, 2003, 09:17 PM
Kentucky---CCW, Class 3, DD's, AOW , Silencers, SBR/SBS and open carry.

El Tejon
May 7, 2003, 09:52 PM
Look on the Brady List. Most the states listed there are D- or F. I don't understand Sarah's grading system, but it should serve as a start.:)

444
May 7, 2003, 10:13 PM
Who has that link to HCI or Brady or whatever that graded the states ?

I believe Nevada was only a D :banghead:

zahc
May 7, 2003, 10:30 PM
What about VT? you can carry concealed w/o a permit there. :D

Blain
May 7, 2003, 10:46 PM
#1. Vermont
#2. New Hampshier

cool45auto
May 7, 2003, 11:25 PM
Georgia's nice.;)

JackStraw
May 7, 2003, 11:51 PM
Utah...but don't think that's an invatation.

amprecon
May 7, 2003, 11:58 PM
Vermont is the most gun friendly state in the union. I live in MT, gun laws are pretty liberal here. Ewww, I said gun and liberal in the same sentence :barf:

Bowlcut
May 8, 2003, 12:31 AM
TN doesnt have too many complaints. No real provision on that you have to carry concealed....just able to carry. So if you flash by accident you are totaly lible to loose your permit. but defintaly not the coolest in terms of people and their attitues, the general masse or as i call them the sheeple

RON in PA
May 8, 2003, 11:31 AM
Pennsylvania

JohnK
May 8, 2003, 12:16 PM
Washington is pretty gun friendly. Shall issue CCW permits that are only $32 (as I remember) and good for 5 years. If you can legally buy a gun you can get a CCW permit, and as long as you're not a felon you can buy a gun here.

You can't own a class III weapon here though if you're a civilian.

There are a couple very active gun control groups here, but when their proposed laws get put before the people they've been shot down badly.

444
May 8, 2003, 12:20 PM
Surely someone has a link for that site that graded the various states according to how gun friendly they are. It was in a thread a couple months ago.
As it is, everyone is just naming where they live.

JohnK
May 8, 2003, 12:32 PM
As it is, everyone is just naming where they live.

Don't you think that many people who are into guns enough to post here would tend to live in the more gun friendly states? :)

I think this is the link you're looking for:

http://www.bradycampaign.org/press/1999/hci/082799-2.html

RTFM
May 8, 2003, 12:34 PM
Try http://www.packing.org/ each state is listed, but I don't think there is a "master" list of them all on one page.

444
May 8, 2003, 12:41 PM
"Don't you think that many people who are into guns enough to post here would tend to live in the more gun friendly states? "

No, I would be willing to bet that the vast majority of people on here live where they live for reasons other than guns. Note how many people here are from **********.
On the other hand, I happen to live in an extremly gun friendly state, but I never gave it a thought when I moved here 20 years ago.

But that list is similar to what I was looking for. I think it is the same information. That should give you some good info to work with.

444
May 8, 2003, 12:50 PM
I think the info I was looking at was newer than that 1999 data, but according to their critiera, the most gun friendly states in 1999 were Kentucky, Maine, Wyoming, Louisiana, and Montana. They all received the grade of F from HCI.

ambidextrous1
May 8, 2003, 12:53 PM
If you want to see some scary firearms legislation, go to the Brady Campaign site given above by JohnK, and read about the Connecticut laws!

:uhoh:

Kcustom45
May 8, 2003, 01:24 PM
Indiana is a gun-friendly state. Easy to get a carry permit, no limits on magazine capacity, Class III, and we also honor everyone else's carry permits. It's a shame not every state can say that.

Mastrogiacomo
May 8, 2003, 01:51 PM
My state got an A- Damn I hate Massachusets...:banghead: :cuss: :fire: :barf:

Kentucky Rifle
May 9, 2003, 08:37 AM
..the Brady Bunch raised our grade to an "F" from an "F-" this year. I don't know what's different from last year.:confused:
I've got a buddy who lives in a small town in Indiana. He wanted a CCW so he walked into the court house and was asked, "Why?" He answered, "For self protection". Paid a small fee & got his CCW. Oddly, now he keeps a little Beretta .25 in his car. That's all he wanted. I guess you can't fault him for going after what he wanted.

KR

ScottS
May 9, 2003, 12:43 PM
New Hampshire is actually very gun-unfriendly. Many, many, laws. And the taxes are very high. Too many liberals in our elected state and federal representatives.

Don't come here. You won't like it.

Scott
Jealously guarding the border...

Schuey2002
May 9, 2003, 12:46 PM
At least this isn't Kali...:D

RustyHammer
May 9, 2003, 03:39 PM
Louisiana ...

One example: Louisiana Governor Mike Foster reminded women a few months ago that "they have a right to buy a handgun for personal protection."

He said this because a serial killer is currently loose in Baton Rouge, and women are scared to death.

Gotta love it!

Ladybug
May 9, 2003, 03:56 PM
Wow, this thread has grown! COOL!

As it is, everyone is just naming where they live.

I don't mind -- people living in a state know about that state best, so it's probably the best info.

Well, things keep changing on me, so it looks like I'll be staying here in Arkansas for another three years. AR isn't too bad, but not great either. Husband wants to move to Montana some day - looks like that might not be a bad choice. I just wonder - how do people make a living in Montana? :confused: As it is, we'll probably end up in the D.C. area -- and there's only one option there, and that's Viriginia! Talk about picking a place to live based 100% on gun laws... sigh.

Blain
May 9, 2003, 07:04 PM
New Hampshire is actually very gun-unfriendly. Many, many, laws. And the taxes are very high.

Do you have any proof of this? From what I read it is VERY, VERY friendly. Open carry and shall issue concealed carry! Plus AOW, Machine guns, etc can all be bought in that state. I really don't see the problem.

Sure, property taxes are high....but with no sales tax or income tax, what more do you want?

sm
May 9, 2003, 07:55 PM
Ladybug,

Well as you stated AR isn't bad -as far as gun laws. We will be able to carry into parks and where alcohol is served here shortly( amended law). No special permit to transport guns to range or hunt if one doesn't have a CCW. CCW is a bit high though and we could recip more, IMO. But thats what the non-res FL is for.

Not as good as some -but a whole bunch better than other states.

Just the politics, COL, taxes and the like. Some of this we can't even blame klinton...klinton sure as heck didn't help...just made it worse.

Lets just say I wouldn't talk anyone from staying or moving here, but I will probably leave when parents die and I finish my education.

MarkDido
May 9, 2003, 11:11 PM
Gotta Love Florida....

When I moved here from Virginia in '95, I called the local Sheriff's Office and asked them how I went about registering my gun...

The guy who answered the phone said "...you wanna do what?"

ScottS
May 10, 2003, 07:47 AM
Do you have any proof of this? From what I read it is VERY, VERY friendly. Open carry and shall issue concealed carry! Plus AOW, Machine guns, etc can all be bought in that state. I really don't see the problem.

Sure, property taxes are high....but with no sales tax or income tax, what more do you want?

Sir, you are, perhaps, a bit humor-challenged? "Jealously guarding the border..."

Scott

Blain
May 10, 2003, 11:29 AM
yes......yes I am. :D As I very much have a longing to love to NH. :cool:

Bonker
May 10, 2003, 11:40 AM
Look at the crime statistics!

States with low crime rates are usually more gun friendly. Actually I don't like the term "gun friendly." They are "freedom friendly."

States with high crime are usually more anti-freedom and more restrictive on guns.

Tamara
May 10, 2003, 12:37 PM
Probably Vermont, Idaho, Indiana or Georgia.

Pick up an ATF state laws booklet (your local FFL has one you can look at). Vermont's state gun laws don't even take up a single page printed front and back. ID, IN, and GA ain't too far behind as far as "slack gun laws" go.

Even states normally considered gun-friendly like TN, TX, and FL are all ate up with gun laws by comparison. I moved here to TN from GA and was shocked to find out that there were training requirements for a toter's permit, you couldn't carry a loaded pistol in your car without a toter's permit (True story: I was once pulled over in rural GA by a state trooper. I had six guns on the passenger seat. He neither asked to see my permit nor said a word about the guns), and that having a toter's permit didn't exempt you from a background check when you buy a gun. It ain't bad here in TN, but it could definitely be better.

winwun
May 10, 2003, 12:53 PM
I would like to see the laws changed to where the carry permit is enough to let you make an instant purchase and walk out with it without having to pay the $10.00 phone call or do the paper work.

MarkD, you might think about adding to your signature line,

". . . or for that matter, his nephew's golf clubs!"

MarkDido
May 10, 2003, 12:58 PM
Hehehe,

Good idea!

Jmurman
May 10, 2003, 05:06 PM
The state I live in is HORRIBLE in its gun laws. It got graded an A-.

justice4all
May 10, 2003, 05:50 PM
Since no one has mentioned Colorado yet, I'll summarize its laws for THR.
We recently passed statewide shall-issue, and preemption of all local laws. The only places off limits to CHP holders are K-12 schools, and places with metal detectors at all entrances. The training requirement is minimal, and hunter safety counts, at least in Boulder County. Other counties, particularly Denver, might read the somewhat confusing language in the law differently. The cost here is going to be about $155 for five years. And it's perfectly legal for anyone, even without a "toter's permit" to carry in their car, but if it's not a handgun, you cannot have a round in the chamber. That's a law found in the hunting statutes, not the criminal code per se.
And there's our famous "make my day" law, which basically says if you find someone in your dwelling, and you're afraid the person might commit a felony, you can kill them, basically with no questions asked.
I'm not saying Colorado is the best, but it's definitely up there. Brady gave us a C-, but we'll be way lower on the next report card, because then we were may issue.
Machine guns are OK, and we're in the 10th Circuit, which isn't as good as the 5th, but a lot better than the 9th.

El Tejon
May 10, 2003, 06:07 PM
justice, isn't it great to work for a low grade!?!:D

Way to go, Red. Make Denver squirm. Can you see me gloat over Denver's position from here?:p

TallPine
May 10, 2003, 06:38 PM
I just wonder - how do people make a living in Montana?

Barely ...

Seriously, uh - oh, that was serious.

Agriculture is still the #1 industry, so if you happen to have a couple million $ lying around you could buy a farm or ranch and hope to maybe net $30K per year.

Of course there are always a few doctor, lawyer, baker, candlestick maker, etc jobs in the few cities that we have. (Billings is the largest at around 100K, you probably think that is a small town)

But basically you need to bring a job with you.

Jmurman
May 11, 2003, 05:52 AM
a few years a ago I was in the Optical business. Even though I was living in Oregon, a part of my territory was western Montana. It is truly a very beautiful place. One of my customers told me that "Montana is a great place to make a small fortune...you just have to start with a large fortune"

Greybeard
May 11, 2003, 07:39 AM
I would semi-question NM being included due to pistola problem. I believe they just recently passed a carry law, probably best detailed by one who lives there ...

TX not too bad, but CHL is rather pricey. Cost of minimum 10-hour course plus $140 to DPS for 4-year license.

GLOCKT
May 11, 2003, 08:40 AM
In my NRA reciprocity guide Indiana just about honors every other states CCW permits.
With Gary known as the murder capital of the USA.This is the basis of our friendliness.
$20 permit,$5 to be notorizied,$2 parking while waiting to be finger printed.3 years renewal,6 week wait atmost for permit.No firearms classes needed.
New gun purchases is a 3 minute deal with permit in hand,standard Federal paper work, no-phone call back ground check.

stevelyn
May 11, 2003, 08:50 AM
A would bet that Vermont is tops concerning gun laws, but we don't have it too bad here in Alaska. Our gun laws address misuse not access. CCW has been streamlined and improved over the years since it's initial inception. Even our recent former Lt Governor has an AK CHL, carries regulary, (or at least she did while campaigning for gov) and she's a socialist democrat!
Alaskans can buy anything that they're willing to jump through the BAT peoples hoops for. And once you're outside the urban areas it's not uncommon or unusual to see peoples with guns in their vehicles or slung across their back when out in the boonies.
Most of us who live here learned long ago that prudent people don't go into the wilds unarmed. Those who do are usually the tourist granola crunchers who learned about wildlife watching Disney cartoons.

Blain
May 11, 2003, 10:31 AM
justice, isn't it great to work for a low grade!?!

It's just like I used to tell myself from my days at school....


F = FAAAANTASTIC!!!!!!

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