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Sevengunner
August 17, 2006, 08:43 PM
I've been back in the gun world for about a year. When I was a shooter as a kid, no ranges, no decorum problems. Now I live in the city and have to shoot at an indoor range, and I notice no one shoots at pictures. Seems to me it might be tempting to put bullseyes on pictures of Osama, or an unpopular politico, or an ex-wife or whatever. I've never seen anything at the ranges I use except standard variants of bullseyes or silouttes. QUESTION: is there some generally accepted rule against using pictures?

Probably a newbie/"well duh!" question, but I've gotta ask. Thanks.

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ecureed
August 17, 2006, 08:48 PM
tell me where to buy Osama targets and I will buy!! do you think they make Al Gore targets?....great idea btw

wolf_from_wv
August 17, 2006, 11:42 PM
Why buy, when you can get them for free?

www.reloadbench.com/pdf.html

I think HiPoint made a Saddam or Osama target...

statelineblues
August 18, 2006, 12:05 AM
There are many places that don't allow picture targets for some reason or other. I believe Mass. has outlawed them for everyone except LEO training. Or it could be that the range only allows you to use the targets they sell.

I always liked getting the standing pix from movie theaters and take them to an outdoor range - get some real odd looks from some people....:D

MikeH
August 18, 2006, 12:12 AM
I know a few family-oriented shooting clubs ban the use of human photo or silhouette targets. Otherwise, I guess it can be considered poor taste to use photos of your boss or ex-wife.

Of course, Bin Laden and Saddam are fair game.

M2 Carbine
August 18, 2006, 12:16 AM
You can just make up your own on your computer.
Use very cheap ink and set the printer at the worst draft quality and you can print a lot of cheap targets.

You probably can't use them at most public ranges though. It seems that the more neutered we gun owners act the more the anti gun liberals will love us.:rolleyes:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v135/Bell406_206B/Maktestgun35yards.jpg

M2 Carbine
August 18, 2006, 12:30 AM
This hostage target is a lot of fun.
When my friends and I shoot this target, verbally harassing the shooter is encouraged.

One of the best lines I heard was when a friend clean missed the BG's head. I got on him about missing the BG and he answered, "Yeah, but I shot his lawyer".:D

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v135/Bell406_206B/KT380.jpg

wolf_from_wv
August 18, 2006, 09:10 AM
I guess everything happens 20 years later here in WV...

I think it was a 4 foot tall (don't remember for sure) piece of plywood standing against the 100 yard backstop at the range, with a "badly painted" picture of Osama on it...

Deanimator
August 18, 2006, 09:21 AM
You probably have everything you need to make your own.

When I bought my first Savage sniper rifle, I made up a bunch of Hitler targets. I just went on the web, found a good picture of Schickelgruber, downloaded it, opened it in Corel Photopaint, added scoring rings, saved it and printed a bunch. If you want bigger than 8 1/2"x11", better graphics programs will allow you to print a larger image in sections.

dracphelan
August 18, 2006, 09:21 AM
Every range I go to has Osama targets for sale.

Roadwild17
August 18, 2006, 09:41 AM
My not so local range had several pics to choose from

Assorted people of middle easternish backgrounds with everything from AKs to RPGs to there head popping out of a comme t72. It has one picture of a woman being head hostage buy a guy, but the woman is so ugly most people shoot her too. Several targets of traditional gang bangers with knives, and 9s & 4Ds.

cbsbyte
August 18, 2006, 10:36 AM
No, I don't because shooting at photos of people or a target of a human silhouette is illegal in Mass.

danurve
August 18, 2006, 11:12 AM
M2 that's a neat target, never saw that one before.

phoglund
August 18, 2006, 11:59 AM
CBSByte,

Are you serious?? That's absurd.

foghornl
August 18, 2006, 12:24 PM
Hi-point Arms had published a Saddam Hussein target, but not sure if they still do. I've got a couple of different Osama targets, too.

8-1/2" x 11", so i just make copies....do sometimes get some strange looks at the range, though...

Had a pic or 2 of the first mrs.foggy on some targets, but I couldn't hit them...bullets just seemd to curve around...

Seismic Sam
August 18, 2006, 12:26 PM
I belong to a club in Minnesota with a big range and ~ 500 members, and Osama targets and other human likenesses are NOT permitted. I'm not sure why, and apart ftom this eveybody seems pretty laid back, but no Osama targets. :confused:

BTW - On another board somebody posted a target that they use somewhere in the NE at a rifle range, and it's a woodchuck silouette, excpet, that it's actually a picture of a woodchuck very clearly FLIPPING YOU THE BIRD! :neener: Apparently most shooters can't hit it the first time they try becase they're laughing so hard...

Low Key
August 18, 2006, 12:36 PM
http://www.targetz.com/novelty.htm

Try these on for size! :D

Jorg Nysgerrig
August 18, 2006, 12:38 PM
While you can get plenty of silhouette targets here, I tend to avoid shooting them. Not because they represent people, but because they are a pretty big waste of a target. I prefer the ones with 4 or 5 bulleyes. Better for seeing groups and you don't have to change targets as often.

And yes, it does appear that there are regulations regarding human-looking targets in Mass. (http://www.mass.gov/legis/laws/mgl/140-131.htm) Crazy.

trickyasafox
August 18, 2006, 12:52 PM
careful all the ranges by me have banned sil. targets unless your LEO or Military

M2 Carbine
August 18, 2006, 02:22 PM
danurve
M2 that's a neat target, never saw that one before.

If you are talking about the hostage target, it's the old Texas concealed carry target, reduced with Paint Shop Pro to 25%, highlighted and with the BG head added, and printed on 8x11 inch paper.
The the whole silhouette is actually on the 8x11 paper targets but for posting just the top half is shown here.
Since it's to scale, shooting from 11, 18 and 75 feet will make the silhouette look life size as if you were 15, 25 and 100 yards away.

The original target is solid blue but by just highlighting the edges the target takes a lot less ink to print.


The idea of the contest is, the hostage was on her way to town to buy you a new car, get you $10,000, whatever. So you have a vested interest in not hitting the hostage.:)

One day when a couple friends and I were shooting this target I was HOT. I ran up a bunch of gifts, including a Thompson and F51 Mustang. The center of the BG's head was just a hole, so I kept shooting through the hole.
Of course every shot my friends yelled I missed the target and we would have a good natured argument about it.
Fun.:D

History Prof
August 18, 2006, 03:01 PM
Be VERY careful about targets with current politicos. FBI and Secret Service might interpret those in a funny manner.

akodo
August 18, 2006, 08:21 PM
so in Mass, could you use the silouette of 'Bigfoot' instead?

cbsbyte
August 18, 2006, 11:57 PM
so in Mass, could you use the silouette of 'Bigfoot' instead?

Yes, you can use animal based targets since only human silouettes/picture targets are restricted to LEO or Military. Yes, I know that some people act like animals but it is still not legal to use human based targets. Though the NRA type 24 target is permissible to use since it only shows the center body, and a reduced head.

http://tenring.blogspot.com/2005/02/paper-targets-in-massachusetts.html

http://www.nraila.org/CurrentLegislation/ActionAlerts/Read.aspx?ID=105

http://www.gunnewsdaily.com/Lolli/wl5.html

History Prof
August 19, 2006, 12:02 AM
Akodo, looks like you found a new marketing niche in MA!

dragongoddess
August 19, 2006, 12:25 AM
I would guess using pictures of know figures, your boss, friends or whomever could be preceived as a threat to that person thereby requiring police intervention. Also don't use one of yourself as someone may call the guys in white coats. You would probably be better off shooting Bambi. At least you can say you were training for deer season.

gezzer
August 19, 2006, 11:58 PM
Another reason to leave MA. I am retired from there. We had to use targets shaped like a Milk bottle as black sil. targets taught us to shoot Uh?? what ever is pc Black persuasion people.

ilbob
August 20, 2006, 12:08 AM
we used to shoot at playing cards. wonder if MA considers a jack, queen, or king a human target?

grislyatoms
August 20, 2006, 10:45 AM
I have a few Ayatollah Khomeini targets around from the Iran hostage era. Course, back then I was only around 9 or 10 so they have .177 holes in them:D

The indoor range I shoot at occasionally has some silhouettes and one of a BG wearing a ski mask.

Politicos / Hollyweird folks would probably be taboo, though I have never asked.
At the outdoor range, I don't think anyone would care one way or the other. But then, at the outdoor range I usually shoot cans and milk jugs, so who knows.

BigRobT
August 20, 2006, 11:44 AM
Not allowed at my club
I belong to a club in Minnesota with a big range and ~ 500 members, and Osama targets and other human likenesses are NOT permitted. I'm not sure why, and apart ftom this eveybody seems pretty laid back, but no Osama targets.

You're going to the wrong range. Bill's North in Circle Pines, MN has plenty of targets and allows whatever you want to bring or buy (Paper or cardboard). Which range do you go to?? I quit going to the Del-Tone/ Luth Range in St Cloud because they started treating me like a piece of dog dung. Not knowing where in Mn you are, I can't make any informed suggestions. Also, you might want to peruse our local board, mainly for those that carry, but there is other good local info, too. http://www.twincitiescarry.com/forum/index.php

Stan_TheGunNut
August 20, 2006, 10:07 PM
"No, I don't because shooting at photos of people or a target of a human silhouette is illegal in Mass."

Teddy worried that he might get a few pictures in the mail with holes in them? Can you still hang a political figure in effagy? How stupid.

MD_Willington
August 21, 2006, 12:47 PM
I made my own Osama targets, download the pic from the FBI website, print it out on 8x11 paper, got a half dozen used cardboard boxes, pasted ol'sama's head on the cardboard. Hot glued the cardboard to a bit of 1x strapping and had some targets ready for the next day...

Fun was had by all

One target was left in our friends front window, someone drove by and asked the next day "Who was the guy with the turbin standing in the living room?"... lol

M2 Carbine
August 21, 2006, 05:01 PM
Then there's always the Hanoi Jane urinal target that you can take a shot at once or twice a day.:D

cbsbyte
August 22, 2006, 01:30 AM
Teddy worried that he might get a few pictures in the mail with holes in them?

Actually, Ted had nothing to do with it. It was a MA State Senator that found out that some people in his district where using his photo as a target. He created the bill with the help of some strong anti-gun allies in the Senate and House. It passed easily. I also believe he was from Berkshire county, which is the furthest western county and most rural part of the state with many hunters, who of course voted for him.

dc2wheel
August 22, 2006, 01:37 AM
Big no-no in the DC metro area. Some bozo showed up with pics of a prior prez or first lady & the ss was called out right-quick. B-27's and human sillouette targets seem ok, but actualy likeness of people is a no-go around here.

Roadwild17
August 22, 2006, 09:16 AM
Yeah, at the indoor range they have a laugh at people who bring in weird targets.

I tried making a target of my GF being held hostage by a ski-maked gunman,, she didnt go for it :confused: .

bfox
August 22, 2006, 09:40 PM
I had some Bin Laden targets I was going to shoot with my
young nephew . Showed a young couple before we started they
thought they were cool .
Another old busybody was there He says " We don't shoot Human targets here "
As upset as he was getting I took it down before we even got the first shot off.
Saw the club President later that week and asked him about it .
He says no problem they were even passing Bin Laden targets
out for free . And it was only paper ,It was shortly after 9-11
Heck I would take a shot at my own picture .
I think if I rememember correctly got the from Letargets.com
E-mailed them and asked if it was illegal to shoot
the targets with humans .
Said the never heard any laws against it . If they do would let me know.
Never heard anything from them .

Bill

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