Greasing the rails of self-loading rifles


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American By Blood
August 18, 2006, 11:04 AM
So it recently came to my attention that I've been abusing my AK. Instead of greasing the rails, I've been oiling them along with the rest of the parts. Oops. Thankfully, I've not damaged the weapon due to it living in a different state from me for the past while and therefore not seeing much use.

Well, last week I was reunited with my AK and picked up the DSA SA58 carbine I've had on order for a while and I'd like to treat them right.

What brand of grease do you use on your semi-auto rifles and why?

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1 old 0311
August 18, 2006, 11:06 AM
I use RIG, but in 99% of the world where AK's are NOTHING is used. It aint a M16.:evil:

MAUSER88
August 18, 2006, 11:30 AM
I like Militec.

griz
August 18, 2006, 12:21 PM
I use Mobil 1, a synthetic grease meant for automotive applications. But I think anything from lard to whale oil would keep the thing running for a couple lifetimes if you don't let it run dry.

Chipperman
August 18, 2006, 12:22 PM
Do AK parts actually rub against each other? :p

owen
August 18, 2006, 01:47 PM
I would consider it more of a skittery bouncing motion than a sliding motion,

sgphoto
August 18, 2006, 02:23 PM
Lubriplate-- the same grease I use on M1 Garands.

http://www.lubriplate.com/Products/AutoMarine.htm

also called white grease. Look for it in Lowe's, Home Depot, etc.

A little dab will do ya!

BigG
August 18, 2006, 02:27 PM
The parts of an AK only have a passing acquaintance. ;)

the naked prophet
August 18, 2006, 03:14 PM
I've always just used standard Hoppes Elite oil. After 1300+ rounds, it's still not worn through the blue on the rails or on the bolt carrier (that's after sanding the burrs down).

rangerruck
August 19, 2006, 03:39 AM
I work with electronic moving parts , some with very tight tolerances. Lubriplate is all I use. Hmm never thought to dump some down an ak.

MechAg94
August 19, 2006, 08:56 AM
I use RIG, but in 99% of the world where AK's are NOTHING is used. It aint a M16. Past lesson learned for me, you don't use grease on an AR which I am sure you know. I haven't tried to use grease on my Vepr. I'll have to look at that. I know my M1's performance improved significantly with grease and new recoil springs.

armoredman
August 19, 2006, 09:03 AM
Reminded me I haven't torn down the AK in a long time....:uhoh:

AK103K
August 19, 2006, 10:03 AM
Past lesson learned for me, you don't use grease on an AR which I am sure you know.
I've used grease on all my AR's since the 70's and never had any issues. What problems were you having?

I use grease on everything, usually Lubripalte, TW25B, or Brownells action lube. You dont need much, like the old Brylcreem ad used to say, " a little dab'll do ya". :)

Crosshair
August 19, 2006, 10:26 PM
I use Pro-Gold grease on all my non-blowback guns.

Sir Aardvark
August 19, 2006, 11:23 PM
You could probably lube your AK with sand and still have it function OK.

Sleeping Dog
August 19, 2006, 11:44 PM
I've used grease on all my AR's since the 70's and never had any issues.
I use grease on mine also, usually a synthetic grease. The only problem I see is dirt, especially on the bolt carrier. It gets dirty quicker than grease on a M1, probably because of the way the gas system works. I just clean it off after three or four trips to the range, then re-grease.

Oh, yeah, I use grease on the bolt bits of AK and SKS, too. I don't know if those guns need it or not.

Regards.

DMK
August 20, 2006, 10:15 AM
Why do you guys use grease instead of oil? Grease is a dust/grit magnet.

AK103K
August 20, 2006, 10:32 AM
Grease is a dust/grit magnet
No more than oil or any other lube. I think it stays in place better and offers better lubrication than oil.

DMK
August 20, 2006, 09:11 PM
Grease is a dust/grit magnet
No more than oil or any other lube.Experiment time. Wipe some grease on a large screw. Wipe some oil on another. Drop them both in the dirt. Now pick them up. Which picked up more dirt?


I think it stays in place better and offers better lubrication than oil.I'll agree with the first part and that is the primary reason for using grease, however, oil will always be a better lube than grease if you can get it to stay there. Grease is just oil with solids added to make it clumpy and/or sticky.

_N4Z_
August 20, 2006, 10:40 PM
I use lithium based automotive type grease on my ak rails.

exxon i think? whatever is in the garage. might shoot just fine without, but it doesn't hurt having it there. not had any problems with dust bunnies accumulating and clogging up my clearances either... :neener:

the naked prophet
August 20, 2006, 11:42 PM
You could probably lube your AK with sand and still have it function OK.

Use epsom salt. They use it for shuffleboard, and it helps those slidey things slide.

Koobuh
August 21, 2006, 03:54 AM
That grease might actually cause the action to bind.
I'm sure that's paranoid, but I'm sticking with light application of liquid lubricants at this point. Break Free and Corrossion-X seem to be working pretty well for my Romy build AK. :)

Trebor
August 21, 2006, 09:43 AM
You could probably lube your AK with sand and still have it function OK.

I think my AK is lubed with sand.

Thin Black Line
August 21, 2006, 10:22 AM
So it recently came to my attention that I've been abusing my AK. Instead of greasing the rails, I've been oiling them along with the rest of the parts.

No, you haven't been. Who brought this to your attention? Someone
still washing bores with water?

Why do you guys use grease instead of oil? Grease is a dust/grit magnet.
....
Experiment time. Wipe some grease on a large screw. Wipe some oil on another. Drop them both in the dirt. Now pick them up. Which picked up more dirt?

It's also the *size* of the particles that the grease will pick up as opposed
to the oil that will do more wear on your parts. That nice big grain will
do quite a number on scoring a rail.

I've always used gun oils like shooters choice, militec, etc on semiauto
pistols, rifles, shotguns etcs from everywhere in the US to the Middle East.
I've put 1,000s of rounds thru personal weapons that I've traded in to
FFLs who asked if I've ever even fired them. A light coat of quality oil on
the parts that make contact is all you need. Yes, there will be some light
polishing after a few hundred rounds, but after this break-in and if you have
a quality weapon to start with, you will be fine.

Continue using oil.

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