[Tady45]

PITTSBURGH (Jan. 4) - In the latest in a string of vandalism carried out in the name of the Earth Liberation Front, members of the radical environmental group are claiming responsibility for a fire at a Pennsylvania auto dealership.

A posting on the group's Web site said the ``attack'' targeted SUVs in a fight ``to remove the profit motive from the killing of the natural environment.''

Jugs of gasoline were set ablaze under three vehicles, engulfing them and a nearby car in flames Wednesday at a dealership in Girard, about 110 miles north of Pittsburgh, FBI Special Agent Bob Rudge said. Three other vehicles also had jugs of gasoline set under them but failed to ignite.

``I have no reason to doubt that it's an individual who committed the acts on behalf of the Earth Liberation Front,'' Rudge said.

The FBI considers the Earth Liberation Front one of the nation's most prolific domestic terrorist organizations. It is thought to be responsible for the 1998 torching of a ski resort in Vail, Colo., an arson that caused $12 million in damage and is considered the most destructive act of eco-terrorism in U.S. history.

ELF is loosely organized. Anyone who carries out an action under the group's guidelines and claims responsibility as part of the organization is considered a member. Over the past year, its name has been attached to a string of vandalism in Pennsylvania.

Last month, the group's Web site said ELF members and cells from the Animal Liberation Front set a Nov. 26 fire at a mink farm in Erie. The fire destroyed a barn, but no animals or people were harmed.

The group also claimed responsibility for an Aug. 11 fire at an unoccupied forest research station near Warren and the torching in March of a construction crane at a bridge work site in Erie, Rudge said.

ELF's claims of responsibility typically come through its Web site, where managers say they serve only as a media conduit for the group. A manager who did not provide an identity said in an e-mail that the communique about Wednesday's fire came in anonymously, as do all reports of ELF attacks.

Rudge said that communique, posted on the Web site, appeared to be authentic because it included information that hadn't been made public.



Can you imagine if Pro RKBA people burned down anything?
The liberal press would be endorsing hangings! The reality of this situation is, that men with guns, risked their lives many times
in our history to allow us to have free speech etc. This type of stupid, selfish, behavior will lead us to a Police State...Aren't RKBA folks, the ones who are thought to be reckless thugs?

Larry

[AZTOY]

Can i have the link to this story. I want to put this story on a toyota forum i go to.:)

[Betty]

Hmmmm. How much pollution did these eco-terrorists put into the air with their fires? :rolleyes:

Moving to Legal & Political.

[pogo2]

Destroying 3 SUV's to reduce pollution is really futile, considering all the SUV's already out there, and the car factory's ability to produce more (with the insurance proceeds) to replace the burned vehicles.

I'm surprised these eco-guerillas don't go after a refinery and make a real dent in gasoline supplies, thereby magnifying their efforts. Of course, refineries have pretty good security, so they are hard targets.

[El Tejon]

The FBI could crush ELF yesterday. They know who these morons are and have stacks of evidence against the. Some terrorists just get a pass.

Good thing ELF doesn't have an AoW without paying the $5 tax. They would be on fire tomorrow.

[Tady45]

http://www.earthliberationfront.com/news/2003/010203.shtml


Here you go AZTOY, I could not link the original, as it was from an AOL news "pop up."


Larry

[AZTOY]

Thank you sir:D

[justinh]

We urge our sisters and brothers - let us strive to become the revolutionary force we've always spoken of being, and begin to take the control of our lives out of the hands of those who would destroy us. NO COMPROMISE. Uhh......You can leave the control of other people's lives alone though. :cuss:

[Malone LaVeigh]

I consider myself a pretty radical environmentalist. I can even think there might be situations where the destruction of property is appropriate. Remembver the Boston Tea Party. But these people are nitwits.

How many public servants risked their lives and breathed toxic fumes to put out these fires? How many toxins entered the environment when the paint, plastics, and petroleum products went up? What was the energy cost of the destroyed vehicles? What will be the energy cost be of cleaning up the mess and any repair work to the building?

The worst part is they make the rest of the environmental community look bad. They make genuine activists less likely to speak out or organize.

These slime are a bunch of juvenile vandals getting kicks by destroying things. They are in no way environmentalists. A better day's work for the polluters has rarely been done.

[treeprof]

I can even think there might be situations where the destruction of property is appropriate. Remember the Boston Tea Party.

Which was not motivated by a desire to restrict the right of private individuals to buy or sell private property.

They are in no way environmentalists.

They most certainly are, just among the most radical.

[cookhj]

these wackos have been vandalizing SUV's here in richmond, va on a regular basis. let me see them touch anything of mine!

[Hk Paul]

let me see them touch anything of mine!
Damn right!:evil:

[JackShandy]

And you know what? The car company in question will just crank out three more vehicles if necessary. Good job, ELF!

[4v50 Gary]

Big losers are the insurance companies whose profit goes down because of it. It affects the consumer when the insurance companies increase the rates to cover "their" loses. If this continues, I wonder if they (the companies) send out their investigators to track these guys down and nail 'em.

[natedog]

just sound like a buch of punks to me.

[QuickDraw]

Isn't this kinda like "throwing the baby out with the bath water"?

QuickDraw

[gun-fucious]

My Jeep Grand Cherokee gets the same mileage that my 1973 VW did.
And boy did that Thing burn oil.

[roscoe]

OT! Geeze!

[Blackcloud6]

>>The FBI could crush ELF yesterday. They know who these morons are and have stacks of evidence against the. Some terrorists just get a pass. <<

El Tejon: How do you know this?

[El Tejon]

Blackcloud6, it is amazing what you can learn when you crawl the tile in federal courthouses or talk to feds at shooting skul.

[Khornet]

no offense intended, but I'll say to you what I say to the "Islam is a religion of peace" crowd:

If the enviro movement really thinks ELF is evil, show me. Let's see the high-profile, pulic, firm repudiations of such acts. Let's see the Sierra Club et al purge these types from their ranks. Show me. Otherwise, I conclude that ELF is a natural extension of the Green philosophy.

You would appear to be an exception, tho.

[Tamara]

Let me get this straight: They burned plastic with gallons of gasoline to protest air pollution and excessive fuel consumption?

And this makes sense to someone? :confused:

[Cougar]

Funny, or not funny depending on how you look at it is that we call their actions ARSON around here. :fire: Let's see how these criminals respond when their a$$es are thrown in the clink for arson.

What if I decided to go protest the eco-items (wood (cut down trees?), 'evil' made-from-oil plastic, etc) they used to build their house with and took a torch to it? Would that be called a 'protest' or 'making a statement'? Heck no! I'd be charged with ARSON!

These 'enviro-wackos' shouldn't be treated any differently!

[sm]

Some people just ain't wired right.

[Joe Demko]

If I were investigating this, I'd be more inclined to examine it from a plain vanilla arson-in-order-to-collect-the-insurance angle. Maybe ELF is responsible, maybe someone else is. As the old chestnut says "follow the money."

[Drjones]

these wackos have been vandalizing SUV's here in richmond, va on a regular basis. let me see them touch anything of mine!

So you'd shoot to defend your property then??? :evil: :evil:

[suvdrvr]

I believe that the animal and enviromentalist extremist movements are the new home of the communist party. They are anti capitalism, anti God, er...excuse me... I think I smell something burning!!!

[cookhj]

dr jones, i'm not saying i would, and i'm not saying i wouldn't. :evil:

[grampster]

Environmental Wackos are easily identified three ways:

1. They have a constant supercilious frown on their faces.

2. They have no lips. (Comes from clenching them tightly together from #1 above.

3. Distinct odor of unwashed flesh and no ability to color coordinate clothing.:p

[El Tejon]

grampster, why do the watermelons always wear colours not found in nature? And smell nothing like it?

Hey, cutie, fur is dead, shave your legs.:D

[Malone LaVeigh]

Which was not motivated by a desire to restrict the right of private individuals to buy or sell private property. It also wasn't motivated by a desire to eat green cheese on the moon. So what?

[treeprof]

Becasue that IS the motivation of the rad greens. They don't like a product (or what it does), don't like that someone can buy it, or that someone else can sell it, and so they take it upon themselves to see to it that neither party can exercise their property rights. Don't buy/sell SUV's, don't buy/sell fur, don't build/patronize ski resorts, don't build/buy housing, etc.

[Malone LaVeigh]

You may find this a bit hard to believe, but not everyone in the world sees commercial enterprise and the accumulation of property as the central purpose of existence. Some people are motivated by other ideals and values and don't really think a whole lot about those things.

How was the tea that got dropped into Boston Harbor not someone's private property? The poor struggling British East India company just wanted to sell their private property to willing customers. How dare those Colonists think there was an overriding principle involved?

I can just hear some powdered dandy sniffing, "These ruffians are only motivated by a desire to restrict the right of private individuals to buy or sell private property."

[JackShandy]

Environmental Wackos are easily identified three ways: How do you hide money from an environmental wacko?
Put it under the soap!
Ba-da-bing!

[treeprof]

The East India tea was being brought in w/out paying export duties, was allowed to be sold direct by EIT Co rather than thru normal channels, and was expressly brought in to undercut the colonial importers (who admittedly brought in a lot of their tea from Holland w/out paying the heavy taxes - smuggling as it were). Also, only gov't appointed agents (those working for EIT) were to be allowed to broker tea, thus giving EIT a monopoly in the colonies, which restricted trade between colonial importers and consumers. But I agree the destruction of private property aspect is kind of troubling, even if it was motivated by the collusion betwen EIT and the Crown.

Done here. See my edit in the lib press thread.