Whats the value of a H&K p7 PSP?


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Vitamin G
August 20, 2006, 03:30 PM
there's one around here that i bumped into. The sticker is $895, but I'm able to do a cash deal for about $850 out the door. Its bright shiny and looks new. I could find no flaws or scratches. It comes with 2 magazines, the original box, and all the stock tools/manual.
Is this worth it? If i don't like it, is this a fair price that I could recoup with little to no loss?
I've searched a few forums but the prices seem to have wild variations. Whats the difference between the p7 psp and the p7m8?

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Lone_Gunman
August 20, 2006, 03:52 PM
$850 is not a bad retail price. The PSP's sell for less than the P7M8. CDNN had some PSP's for around $800 not too long ago if I recall. The main difference between the PSP and P7 is that the PSP has a euro-style heel magazine release (on the bottom of the frame), and the P7 has the magazine release mounted in the normal American place behind the trigger guard.

I don't think the PSP has the heat shield either.

Neither of these two things is very important thought. In fact the heel mounted mag release on the PSP may be an advantage if you are going to carry it.

Tom Servo
August 20, 2006, 04:43 PM
That's a pretty competitive price for one in excellent shape.

Many of us like the PSP better for CCW. I paid $900 for an NP3'ed refurb a couple of years back, and I feel I got my money's worth.

Now, finding spare magazines can be pricey, and many only come with one these days, so that ups the value as well.

Also, you'll need to factor in having a custom holster made, as there aren't any stock holsters made for the gun. Oh, and Nill grips are nice to have, too :)

http://lonelymachines.org/guns/p7_bulman.jpg

10-Ring
August 20, 2006, 06:30 PM
Sight unseen, that seems to be on the upper end of acceptable for the PSP. But seriously tho, I'd pay that price if I were in the market for one ;)

BlkHawk73
August 20, 2006, 06:37 PM
Buy it! More likely though it's simply the P7 not the PSP. They're often given the same label but are different models. he PSP withh say so on the slide. Gotta look on the grips and the slide.
Pretty much any P7 moel is gonna sell close to $1000. having the box, papers and tools just makes it that much more of a deal. buy it! buy It!
Well, hold on a sec...before buying, check the gas piston to see it's condition. the sharpness of the piston rings will tell you about it's usage.

orangelo
August 20, 2006, 07:17 PM
I'd take a look at it first. If it has the terrible looking milling mark on the right side of the slide where the logo for the German Interior Ministry was removed it wouldn't be worth as much as one with a pristine slide.

I paid $699 for a PSP about a year ago for one with the BMI marking X'd out. I wouldn't pay much more than that for one with the ugly milled out slide now. The tools, box, and extra magazine are a substantial value too. Non-M8 mags are very hard to find and some people want $20-25 each for the brush and carbon scraper.

Kestrel
August 20, 2006, 11:07 PM
Vitamin,

If you're wanting one, I would get it without a second thought. I know people say they get them cheaper, but I must be one of the most unlucky P7 buyers, because I never run across them at that price (locally). I've bought them slightly cheaper before, but after shipping and transfer fees, it was at least that price (and this was several years ago). In my area, if I ever run into one, it's ALWAYS at least $1,000, but usually more. They sit on the shelves for a long time, but they don't sell them cheaper around here.

CDNN had some German police trade-ins, marked as "very good to excellent" and they were selling those for $900. After shipping and transfer fees, that's a good bit more than what you found. AND - the one you found is a known quantity. You've seen the condition and that it has all the accessories.

If you want it - get it. I would pay that in a heartbeat, especially since it has both mags, the box, manual, tools and is in that condition.

Good luck.

usp9
August 21, 2006, 10:35 AM
GunBroker has a neat search feature that allows you to see what prices have been paid. That will give you a pretty good idea of actual prices paid. IMHO, $850 for a PSP in excellent condition is probably towards the low end. The last CDNN price was $899 with one mag. Mags are a factor because the lowest you'll pay is about $55 for one.

Were I looking for one, I'd buy the one you're talking about, if it's in the shape you describe. These are very accurate shooters, (as most fixed barrels tend), uber reliable, slim, fast to action, and mild in recoil. The downside is they are a bit heavy, require a unique manual of arms/ grip style, and cost a bit for parts etc.

Vitamin G
August 21, 2006, 01:15 PM
Thanks for the advice everyone! I think i'm going to pick it up after work today. Pictures as soon as my friend feels like taking them.

Where did you get that holster??? It looks almost like a SSS

Vitamin G
August 21, 2006, 09:26 PM
Bought and Shot it today...

Pro's..
1" group offhand at at about 10yards
Very Slim
I like the grip angle
The squeeze cock

Con's...
Expensive
Shot about 1.5" high right from POI (probably just me though)
The Squeeze cock


Dunno what I think about it yet. Its a fine gun. Points very well. Still evaluating if the price justifies keeping it. I'm sure I could ditch it with little to no loss, or perhaps even some gain.

BlkHawk73
August 21, 2006, 09:52 PM
Give it time. It's design and mechanics makes it have an entirely different manual of arms in it's useage. Since you're now part of the cult...head to http://www.parkcitiestactical.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi

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