help me choose a autoloader


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akashooter
August 20, 2006, 05:54 PM
which do you like more, iam going to rent these, but id like to see other opinions

- .40 magnum research baby eagle
- .40 glock
- cz 75 .40
- .45 springfield 1911 mill spec
- .45 springfield 1911 G.I.

thnaks

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possum
August 20, 2006, 06:05 PM
Well.

I hate baby eagles, and desert eagles so i would say no to that.

Glocks are fine weapons and i really am a dao kinda guy. What model did you have in mind? full size compact or sub- compact?

cz 75 never shot one but there are many people here on the forum that have them and love them.

I would definetly go with one of the springfield 1911's great caliber .45acp, pretty good price, lots of fun to shoot, and after shooting my buddies out of the box they are plenty accurate.

No matter what you get you are on the right track by going and renting them and getting a feel for what fits you best. either way you are looking at .40 or .45 and you can't go wrong there. What will the pistol be used for and i could give you a better answer taliored to what you want it for in particular.

10-Ring
August 20, 2006, 06:16 PM
Of your choices...
* I'm not a 40 s&w fan so I woulnd't go w/ any of those choices
* I like 1911 so my choice would be one of the SA...which one?
***the GI :D

akashooter
August 20, 2006, 06:22 PM
it will be used for mostly target practice 15yrd-50yrd, and some carry/home defense

wally
August 20, 2006, 06:25 PM
Then go with the mil spec, better sights and you'll like the larger holes which are much easier to see at longer ranges :)

--wally.

Just_a_dude_with_a_gun
August 20, 2006, 06:30 PM
I'd look into the Glock 22-23 or a Springer XD, as the serious front runner for an all purpose autoloader, of course, the polymer pistols will be lighter for carry purposes, as well as having a light rail for bedside purposes.

The CZ would be my second choice, because they're just excellent pistols, but heavier.

A 1911 is a different animal. I've got the Springer GI,, and a sig P239 and I absolutely love both, but I think I need a Glock 22 or an XD45 :)

The BabyDesert Eagle is a great gun, but lots of people hate that the safety is Slide mounted, and isn't easy to manipulate onehanded.

Black Majik
August 20, 2006, 07:08 PM
I personally don't like .40's, so I'm going with the 1911s in .45 :D

Phantom Warrior
August 20, 2006, 07:27 PM
Buy a Glock 23...

(My opinion actually means nothing because you should buy whatever you like and are comfortable shooting but you asked. It's light, comfortable to shoot and carry, easy to take apart and clean, and have lots of accessories available.)

possum
August 20, 2006, 08:29 PM
it will be used for mostly target practice 15yrd-50yrd

50yds good lord man!:what:

hurrakane212
August 21, 2006, 01:23 AM
I am suprised that I am the first to say this but if I were you I would go find a place to rent different guns to discover what you like or don't like.
"Rent different guns" was the best information that my fellow THR members ever gave me. I paid a lot of money (80$ for 1 Sig, 1 Glock, 1 XD (all 9mm) 1 Para LDA and one Kimber TLE (both .45) and all the ammo for Valentines day with my wife at Coal Creek Armory in Knoxvlle), but I discovered exactly what I did and (more importantly) did not like. I don't like the Glock grip angle and sproingy trigger, I LOVE the sweet single action trigger and grip angle of a good 1911. You may be totally different.
Shoot different guns IN DIFFERENT CALIBERS!
Don't get .45 or .40 or .50AE for macho hole size etc.
My first gun was a Rossi .357 snubbie, a great gun at a great price but Painful to shoot with .357's. I shot fine, albeit inaccuretly (my fault not the gun), with .38's but it was too heavy for pocket carry and not ideal for IWB carry.
Now I have a smith and wesson 642 .38 special airweight that I barely notice in my pocket.
I am saving up for another 1911 as well.
I traded a few guns and lost money on guns I thought I wanted because of good reviews in Gun Rags.
Now, if I haven't shot it (the same model at least), I will not by it.
Just MHO,~Nathan

Black Majik
August 21, 2006, 01:43 AM
50yds good lord man!:what:

Bambam-31 on here usually likes to shoot steel with his pistols at 100 yards.

jlh26oo
August 21, 2006, 04:31 AM
I am suprised that I am the first to say this but if I were you I would go find a place to rent different guns to discover what you like or don't like. "Rent different guns" was the best information...

iam going to rent these, but id like to see other opinions


Glock 22/23, and if you are considering 5" 1911's, make sure to try a G35!

Autolycus
August 21, 2006, 05:15 AM
I would try an HK P2000. Its about the same size as a Glock 23 but much better ergonomics. It holds 12+1 in .40 and 13+1 in 9mm. I have one and it shoots like a fullsize 9mm. Its completely ambidextrous and it has interchangable backstraps so that you can change the grip if you do not like it.

Ala Dan
August 21, 2006, 05:37 AM
Springfield Armory 1911, either the G.I. or MIL SPEC would make
an excellent choice. I have 2x G.I. models, and one MIL SPEC along
with various other 1911's. The Springers are just plain fun to shoot~!:cool: :D

tegemu
August 21, 2006, 12:00 PM
Of your choices,Itoo would go with the SA Mil Spec for the MUCH better sights and a few other refinements.

rich52us
August 21, 2006, 12:03 PM
I carry a G 30 daily. I am surprised you haven't considered a .45 ACP Glock among your other choices.

However, I plan on getting a 1911 style .45 ACP for nostalgia and fun at the range. I am also considering the Springfield GI & Mil. Spec. Either Springfield would probably be OK for your limited SD role, but I might go for the better sights on the Mil. Spec. Let us know what you decide.

KenW.
August 21, 2006, 12:37 PM
I'm a 1911 guy. Maintenance, repair and dress up parts galore, everywhere you look. All manner of sizes; from longslide to the 3" barreled Defender or ultra.

All that AND thumb and grip safeties!

possum
August 21, 2006, 01:49 PM
Bambam-31 on here usually likes to shoot steel with his pistols at 100 yards.

i had an army buddy that has since pcs'ed but hey would tear up 100 yd e- tyoe shilloutes. I couldn't believe it, i persoanlly don't shoot past 25yds, and normaly not past 15yds, with a pistol that is!

MCgunner
August 21, 2006, 01:59 PM
I only have experience with 1911s. I'd pick the CZ75. :mrgreen:

akashooter
August 21, 2006, 03:40 PM
thanks everyone ! im planning to rent these at a local range sometime this week.

ill let yal know what i decide

thanks again

hurrakane212
August 21, 2006, 04:43 PM
missed the word "rent" in your first post... ~Nathan

GRP
August 21, 2006, 07:51 PM
Aside from the baby eagle or what. The rest are all keepers. That said, if I had to choose one autoloader it would be the Glock.

Thefabulousfink
August 21, 2006, 08:13 PM
What is all this bias against the Baby Eagle?!!? My first center-fire hand gun was a Baby Eagle in .40 S&W. I bought it NIB 4 years ago, it has over 5k rounds through it and only one FTE and that was in the first magazine. I've heard of lots of 1911s that can't claim that.

It might just be me but I can work the safety, mag release, and slide stop one handed with either hand. It tames the kick of the .40 quite nicely and is more accurate than I am. It's internals are almost identical to a CZ-75 and I prefer the BE looks. Finally it is one of the most ergonomic guns that I have ever fired.

The only bad things I can say about it are it is heavy and the double action trigger pull is a little long. However, heavy guns have less kick and the trigger pull can be lightened by a smith or you can just practice with it and learn to have a smooth trigger pull.

/rant off

Any of the guns you listed will be a fine range gun, I just had to defend my favorite.:p

Spec ops Grunt
August 21, 2006, 09:12 PM
I would go with the 9mm. Cheaper ammo= more shooting.

H&K, Glock, SIG or Berreta makes a good 9mm.

rde
August 21, 2006, 10:42 PM
Baby Eagle gets my vote.

JCB1911
August 22, 2006, 12:41 AM
Springer Milspec because you wont have to fight to see the sights and you have good quality working materials to "smith" it up in the future.

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