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Ex-MA Hole
August 21, 2006, 10:21 AM
OK, here is the HYPOTHETICAL situation.

Let's pretend that I was in MA this weekend. I have a MA Non-Res LTC. I also have a NH LTC.

To come home, I was to take the subway partway (suburb to Boston area), then take a bus from the Boston area to the Concord area.

Let's say that when I got into Boston, I saw TWO signs that indicated that guns were not allowed on the bus. I saw two signs, but no one asked me anything, nor told me anything.

There was no sign for the subway, only the bus.

Am I ok because I have a permit in both states? Or is this a big no-no because the signs are up?

Please advise.

By the way- to the best of my knowledge, there are no such signs in the NH terminal.

This is all hypothetical, of course.

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Car Knocker
August 21, 2006, 12:45 PM
From the NRA:

FIREARMS ABOARD OTHER CARRIERS

Any passenger who owns or legally possesses a firearm being transported aboard any common or contract carrier for movement with the passenger in interstate or foreign commerce must deliver the unloaded firearm into the custody of the pilot, captain, conductor, or operator of such common or contract carrier for the duration of the trip. Check with each carrier before your trip to avoid problems.

Bus companies generally refuse to transport firearms. Amtrack specifically prohibits the transport or possession of firearms and ammunition both on board and in checked baggage. Other passenger rail companies may also restrict transport or possession; always check with your carrier first.

http://www.nraila.org/GunLaws/FederalGunLaws.aspx?ID=59

mjustice
August 21, 2006, 01:45 PM
Hypothetically most people sit down, keep quiet, and enjoy the ride. :)

While there is no federal law that prohibits CCW or simple possession of handguns on non-airline common carriers, many carriers have rules that prohibit such behavior.

Unless there is a law that prohibits such behavior, it's just like violating any of the carrier's other rules. If discovered, you may be asked to leave, and if you don't, you can be declared a trespasser and removed by the police if and when they show up.

Ex-MA Hole
August 21, 2006, 02:03 PM
Hypothetically most people sit down, keep quiet, and enjoy the ride.

The horror. Someone would actually do that?

;)

That's my question. Is it something where if we were to get stopped at a weigh station and I got caught, I'd be doing 5-10 in a Federal Pen? Or will they slap me on the wrists and send me on my way?

mjustice
August 21, 2006, 02:09 PM
That's my question. Is it something where if we were to get stopped at a weigh station and I got caught, I'd be doing 5-10 in a Federal Pen? Or will they slap me on the wrists and send me on my way?

This is not legal advice, but unless NH (fat chance) or Massachusetts (or Boston through delegated power) passed a law that made it illegal for you to carry or possess a handgun on the bus, there really is no criminal penalty that can be invoked.

The bus driver may not let you back on the bus, though.

Out of curiousity, what did the sign at the bus depot say?

wdlsguy
August 21, 2006, 02:12 PM
While there is no federal law that prohibits CCW or simple possession of handguns on non-airline common carriers

You are required to inform them if you are transporting a firearm in your checked luggage [18 USC 922(e)].

Ex-MA Hole
August 21, 2006, 02:35 PM
I didn't get a good look at the signs, as I know there are cameras, and if there was an issue, maybe I didn't see them...

I looked like a typical revolver with the red circle and slash through it. Under was something to the effect of weapons are not allowed. There MAY have been a legal citing, but I'm not 100% sure.

I can not find anything on the MBTA cite, the South Station site, or Concord tailways site.

mjustice
August 21, 2006, 02:39 PM
You are required to inform them if you are transporting a firearm in your checked luggage [18 USC 922(e)].
Yes, but once the OP started talking about carry licenses and buses, I assumed that this was not about checked baggage. You are right that
checked baggage with a gun is a no-no (if undeclared).

Ex-MA Hole
August 21, 2006, 02:44 PM
No, you are correct. It would not have been checked. But good to know.

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