Stoeger .22 Luger copies?


PDA






El Tejon
August 21, 2006, 05:03 PM
As a kid I remember the Stoeger Luger .22 copies in the '70s, but had not seen one in quite some time.

Friday, August 18th, I was buying some cleaning supplies in a gun store here in Lafayette, when I saw a Stoeger Luger copy for $139.99. It is the steel version.

As I am able to resist everything but temptation, I immediately purchased it. The weapon is in great shape (but I have not yet fired it) at call it 98%.

Checked out Gun Broker, why are these things going for $375.00? Did I get a deal or is Gun Broker way high?:confused:

If you enjoyed reading about "Stoeger .22 Luger copies?" here in TheHighRoad.org archive, you'll LOVE our community. Come join TheHighRoad.org today for the full version!
1 old 0311
August 21, 2006, 05:35 PM
That sounds like a jump on it price. I don't see it in The Blue Book, but Gunbrooker is usually close, in the long run.

Starter52
August 21, 2006, 06:46 PM
I owned a Stoeger .22 Luger back in the 1980's and it was a piece of junk. It never worked anywhere near 100% even after I sent it back to Stoeger. I seem to recall mine had an aluminum frame.

I hope yours is a better specimen. The price you paid is a steal.

I celebrated my 4th birthday in Lafayette while my dad was getting his PhD in engineering. Go Boilermakers.

Old Fuff
August 21, 2006, 07:36 PM
The price you paid was good... :)

But be aware that they are fussy feeders - in .22 caliber the toggle action is not the greatest. You may have to experiment with different ammunition, and while you may be lucky don't expect much from the balk packs they sell at Wally-World. :(

The only reason it saw the light of day was because Stoeger needed to do something to protect their copywrite on the word "Luger" which Interarms was lusting after. :eek:

Rembrandt
August 21, 2006, 07:58 PM
Stoeger Lugers came in a variety of configuations....4" & 6" barrels, they were also available with rear adjustable target sights, and with steel or alloy frames. Magazines hold 12 rounds. Used ones can be found for $200-$250. Very nice shooters, have never had a problem with either of mine....feeds any .22 ammo with no malfunctions.

There were three manufacturers of .22 caliber Lugers....the most troublesome were the Erma's. Unfortunately many people confuse the brands thus lumping Erma's problems onto Stoeger.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v405/Rembrandt51/StoegerLuger.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v405/Rembrandt51/StogerLuger2.jpg

Trebor
August 21, 2006, 09:22 PM
From what I understand, the Stoeger guns are more ammo sensitive then most .22 autoloaders. Try several types of ammo until you find what works. I'd try some hot ammo, like CCI Stingers, myself as I would think it would tend to work best.

El Tejon
August 22, 2006, 09:59 AM
Thanks to all who replied.

I remember the Erma Werke guns, or should I say, wall hangers.:D Things were highly ammo sensitive and needed to be polished.

This weapon is a Stoeger. I'll see how it shoots over the weekend.:)

Cortland
August 23, 2006, 12:13 AM
I have a Stoeger .22. My Dad picked it up for a song at a pawnshop a few years ago and passed it along to me. I find that with hot .22 ammo mine is quite reliable. The action really isn't a toggle so much as it is a run-of-the-mill blowback with a few unnecessary attachments that make it look like a toggle. I don't knock it for that; I understand it's part of the Luger mimicry. It's not the nicest .22 pistol money can buy, but it's accurate, fairly reliable, and unique ... so I like it.

Mine has an aluminum frame.

El Tejon
September 3, 2006, 04:27 PM
Finally shot the pistol today. Works great with all different kinds of ammo!:D

I had 2 magazines for the weapon, now I have one.:o A magazine disintegrated on me in the weapon. It left the follower in the weapon.

Dan Flory tried to knock it out with his knife, but he turned the weapon upside down and the follower fell out.

Now, I need some magazines.:)

45Broomhandle
September 8, 2006, 05:40 PM
Here's a photo of my STOEGER LUGER. Background is an original full-page ad from Guns magazine, dated June 1970. Someone was also kind enough to mail me a photostat copy of the original Instruction Manural. This gun is in LIKE NEW condition. I'm a COLLECTOR so do NOT fire my guns. This is the aluminum frame version with 4" bbl. 45Broomhandle

http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/6609/stoegerlugeradandgun600uo7.jpg

rmmpe
February 15, 2010, 12:49 PM
I am familiar with this piece and am interested in a purchase to replace the Stoeger-Luger I lost in the Cascades way back in 1966.

Any leads will be appreciated.

Bob
Milford, PA

Walter
February 15, 2010, 11:28 PM
Wow, the old Stoeger Luger. What a blast from the past. I have one in the
bottom of the safe I bought in 1972. It came with a leather field holster,
two mags, and a mag loading tool. I paid $50.00, plus tax for the whole kit.
I bet I put 10 thousand rounds through that thing before the sear broke.

I got the sear replaced, and probably have another 5K rounds through it.
Great little plinking pistol. I saw several on Gunbroker tonight for a whole
lot more than I paid for mine.;)

Walter

jimmyraythomason
February 15, 2010, 11:40 PM
I paid $70 for mine in the '70s. Great shooter! No ammo problems but it did have a magazine problem. It would fail to feed unless I sprayed the loaded magazine with WD-40. Once sprayed it would fire as fast as you could pull the trigger.

Maverick223
February 16, 2010, 12:22 AM
Someone necro-ed a really old post, but I am glad they did, it looks like a neat little pistol. I have just about vowed to never get another .22lr pistol...but I may have to pick up one of these if I can procure a copy at a decent price.

:)

Rex B
February 18, 2010, 12:07 AM
I've had two of these in the last few years.
Saw one last weekend at the ft worth gun show, in good shape, $269.95

Maverick223
February 18, 2010, 12:34 AM
Rex, did you get your numbers jumbled up, or is that right?...Over $4k? Yep, not interested, I think I'd rather have the real thing.

:)

Rex B
February 18, 2010, 08:35 AM
Yeah, sorry, missed the shift key. It was late.
but I fixed it.

Joshua M.
February 18, 2010, 08:54 AM
Wow, first time I saw one of those...As a guy that has 2- 9mm Lugers, and 1- 30 Luger, I wonder how a .22 can run the action...Good luck

Maverick223
February 18, 2010, 12:13 PM
Yeah, sorry, missed the shift key. It was late.Oh, much better; I wasn't trying to pick on you...I actually thought you were serious.

:)

jimmyraythomason
February 18, 2010, 12:16 PM
I wonder how a .22 can run the action...Good luck The .22lr runs the toggle action very well and has for a couple of decades.

Ronsch
February 18, 2010, 03:05 PM
I have got a current model. Bought it last year for the wife as a present. It is fun to shoot, and I have had no problem with Federal bulk pack .22 LR yet. I use slow, deliberate, aimed fire. No speed shooting for it.

Doesn't like any of the Remington brand ammo at all.

Oh, by the way, not to be rude to Lafayette or anything but...

GO RED DEVILS!!!!!!!!!! WEST LAFAYETTE CLASS OF 1984!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Rex B
February 20, 2010, 12:20 AM
the toggle is a lightweight thing, just for show.

jimmyraythomason
February 20, 2010, 12:27 AM
My toggle action was fully functional. What was for show about it?

Rembrandt
February 20, 2010, 10:09 AM
....the toggle is a lightweight thing, just for show.

Sometimes it's better to listen and learn.

panther22
February 20, 2010, 02:30 PM
I had two of them at one time. You could find them for $125-150 pretty easily back a few years ago. I don't think I could pay the $300+ prices I see on the auctions today. There are better guns for that kind of money.
Mine liked Win. Wildcat ammo for the most part, but both would jam on the last round every now and then.

NG VI
February 20, 2010, 03:28 PM
Looks to me like the 'toggle action' is just a little hinged cover on the blowback bolt.

I think I'd like one of these, seems like a lot of fun.

Gunfighter123
February 20, 2010, 03:37 PM
I had two " Luger look-alikes" --- a 4" ?? Storger and a Erma Navy long barrel with the wood forearm ---- found few for sale;
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=157948117

billdeserthills
February 20, 2010, 03:47 PM
Funny this was mentioned, I just got one last week. I haven't had a chance to shoot it yet.

content
February 20, 2010, 05:33 PM
Hello friends and neighbors // The 2010 Standard Catalog of Firearms $350-$100

I don't know where to get one, paid $65 for mine in the late 80's.
I use it to warm up with every time I go to the range. Well over 10,000 rounds and likes federal copper washed the best of the bulk ammo.
Parts are still available but mine has only ever needed the safety retainer ball (I think that is the name) replaced.
Good luck with the search.
116088116089

Jim K
February 21, 2010, 12:11 AM
"I wonder how a .22 can run the action"

Well, it doesn't run the Parabellum pistol action. The Parabellum pistol is a locked breech, recoil operated pistol; the Stoeger Luger is a straight blowback. The toggle on the latter is not locked and imposes minimal resistance to the blowback action. The same is true of the Erma gun.

It is worth noting that in the 1920's, Stoeger was the authorized importer for the Parabellum pistol; they trademarked the name "Luger" in the U.S., which is why the pistol is called that here even though the rest of the world calls it the Parabellum. Since Stoeger owns the name "Luger", they can sell a pistol and put the name "Luger" on it, but Erma could not put that name on their gun, which actually looks more like the original.

Jim

craZ4Gunz
July 31, 2010, 12:14 PM
Just picked one up (under $200)! :D Great little shooter - ate all the Fed bulk and Wildcat I could feed it - until the (OEM?) mag fell apart (left the follower in the mag well) ! :uhoh: I put it back together and it seems to work, but - hmmmmm...I noticed another member had the same problem. Guess I'll be shopping for some new mags too. Anyone know if this is a common problem for this gun?

DEL1
August 17, 2010, 01:15 PM
I purchased a Stoeger Luger New in the early 1970's. Was considering a Colt Woodsman or High Standard along with the Stoeger Luger. The Stoeger Luger felt more comfortable fitting my hand. Since the purchase have shot hundreds and hundreds rounds thru it. It has never failed - shoots like a little machine gun. Tried to purchase exta clips thru the years with negative results. My experience is that it is a - Great Little Gun!!!

paintis
February 15, 2011, 11:15 PM
I am familiar with this piece and am interested in a purchase to replace the Stoeger-Luger I lost in the Cascades way back in 1966.

Any leads will be appreciated.

Bob
Milford, PA
I have a steel version with 4 inch barrel, clip and original box. I have the the original manual but have to find it. so no gaurantee. I am willing to sell it at the right price. It is like new. appears to have been fired very little. Some rust on clip. Condition looks like pictures above. Serial number close to 4000 . This is a collectible gun. Make me a resonable offer

If you enjoyed reading about "Stoeger .22 Luger copies?" here in TheHighRoad.org archive, you'll LOVE our community. Come join TheHighRoad.org today for the full version!