Med 10
May 8, 2003, 01:04 PM
Whats the status on the Kel-Tec SU-16? I believe that is what it is called. Has any one seen one yet? Is it for sale yet? Thoughts? opinions? Would like a 223 but have ruled out AR's.

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May 8, 2003, 03:37 PM
Word from Kel-Tec is that they won't be shipping any until later this month. However, you can now go to their web site and download the manual (

Med 10
May 9, 2003, 02:44 PM
Thanks for the link.:)

May 10, 2003, 05:09 PM
I haven't fired one, but I did get a chance to handle a couple of them at the SHOT and NRA shows. Very light, the folding bipod is neat, and the whole things folds in half for storage. Accepts AR mags, which is obviously a very good idea.

However, based on its appearance and "feel," I'd guess it is strictly a light-duty carbine. It is mainly plastic, including the front sight and most everything else. Basically, it is constructed like Kel-Tec's fun little SUB2000 9mm/.40 carbine -- which is to say it will probably not survive hard use very well. The bipod would probably be the first thing to break, then the front sight assembly.

This isn't a knock on Kel-Tec (they make some unique and useful little guns) at all, since they don't intend their guns as military weapons. My sister keeps the SUB2000 in 9mm for a home defense piece. It's reliable and easy to shoot well. I'll bet the SU16 will be about the same, and be well suited for use as a fun plinker and light-duty home defense gun. Probably be neat in the truck/trunk gun role, too, so long as it isn't subjected to many hard knocks.


May 11, 2003, 07:03 AM
looks like a pretty good gun to me

May 11, 2003, 04:23 PM
No pistol grip, no flash supressor....wouldn't see why it wouldn't be Kali legal. KT might choose not to sell it to Kali though, but I don't see why you couldn't buy it from out of state as it doesn't have any combination of "evil" features. I hope it's not a dog. Having choices in Kali are good.

Badger Arms
May 12, 2003, 11:09 AM
I'll try to think like a Californian for a minute... OUCH.... Yes, they can ban it because it has a folding stock. Don't argue with California logic, they'll reaise your taxes!!! :uhoh:

May 12, 2003, 02:50 PM
It doesn't have a folding stock. It has a disconnecting action and can't be fired from the folded position.

Of course, you're probably right, they'll just call it a folding stock and ban it. <<sigh>>

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