[moewadle]

What do you think is the approximate lowest price for which one can obtain a 9mm Browning High Power in glossy blue finish with walnut grips?

[jman74]

I just paid $400 for a HP Single action, blued, walnut grips, and fixed sights. The gun has very little signs of use. Came with the original box, 2 mags and paperwork. The same model new is $700 at the same shop. Hope this gives you a starting point. This price is the lowest I've seen at the two shops I frequent. Usually they seem to go for about $100 more or so.

[jaysouth]

Most gun shops mark up the HP over MSRP, that is $600-700, most will lie to you and tell that there will be no more HPs produced.

I attend 8-10 gunshows a year and every year find at least one HP that I am looking for for $400. FFL gunshow vendors ask $7-800 for new ones and llie about their products worse than pawnshops.

Keep looking and you will find one in your price range.

[kokapelli]

Davidsons lists the BHP in blue for $665.99

[Harold Mayo]

I still find them, on occasion, for $350 or so used and without much wear at all. I don't think that the dealers are really trying to bad to rape anyone on price, though...I think that dealer price has gone up. Just look around pretty hard and you should be able to find one sub-$500 without too much of a problem.

[moewadle]

I guess I could have put this in my original question....The Browning MSRP for the High Power Standard 9MM, which is the blued, walnut grips model, fixed sights, is $820. My local chain sporting goods, Scheels, has a NIB with these exact features, for $680. Thanks for all the information, by the way. I would take a nice used one eventually when I find one at a gun show or shop. Moe

[Vitamin G]

If you mean "Browning" the brand, I bought a practical in 9mm for $450 out the door at the harrisburg gun show last year. Its twin in .40 was also 450, but i passed, because it was a .40.

If you mean "Browning" the type, the FM clones are $299 at local gun shows around here.

[rellascout]

There are lots of Browning hi powers out there. Price depends on the vintage.

Price will very greatly based on the vintage of the gun. Pre 1970's command the highest price. They are T series guns and are highly prized. They have a rung hammer. $600 +

The second tier are the early 70's guns. They are all Belgium guns. They have a spurred hammer but still have a very nice fit and finish.

I paid $450 for a 1972 about a year and a half ago.

The newer ones are made in Beligum and assembled in Portugal. IF I were buying a new one I would buy a practical but you are looking for a blued gun so I would look for a FN because they are the same gun and can be had for $450 NIB.


I would not get a FM. They barrel is soft and will wear heavily in the lock up area with extensive shooting.



BHP are great guns. Good luck.

[PT-Partners]

Do not take this wrong here but prices are many times regional meaning what I pay in Texas where there are gun shows every weekend and more gun stores than convenience stores, the guns will be less then in New York City with more restrictions than imaginable.

That is extreme.

Do not forget to factor how much you spend in time and money looking. If you find on internet do not forget to factor shipping and transfer fee. If you face to face keep in mind who you are dealing with. One advantage of a retail outlet you can see, feel and look at what you are getting.

Remeber there is always a reason for a discount and your undying gratitude is not it. :what:

Pure ball park pricing is $550 plus or minus $100 for a basic blue with two 13 round magazines from new to as new in box (as so the seller says :neener: )

Hope this helps.

[moewadle]

I need to say thank you again for all the detailed information. Most likely I mean Browning the brand. I know there are clones but don't want one. So, thanks for all the detailed information. Your time and knowledge are not wasted. Thanks much! Moe

[moewadle]

I forgot to ask...what is the difference between the FN and FM besides the quality? Moe

[toemag]

I have a T series, the rung hammer kept biting the skin of the firing hand so I got a normal hammer fitted. Mine was a surplus Austrian Police weapon, and I picked it up in the 80's. It still shoots better than me after all of those year's, round's and maltreatment.

I have a thing for 9mm's, that's why I bought a Glock 17 to take up the slack for my T series, but that isnt quite right as both weapon's are in a class of their own.

Toe

[moewadle]

I need to ask you to elaborate. By a normal hammer do you mean one like the BHP has now from the factory? I have small hands but the reason I have not bought the new BHP at my local store is that it seems the "normal" hammer might bite me. When the slide is back the hammer spur almost touches the soft area at the crotch of the thumb and forefinger. Thanks. Moe

[Tejas Gunwerks]

"Most gun shops mark up the HP over MSRP, that is $600-700, most will lie to you and tell that there will be no more HPs produced.

I attend 8-10 gunshows a year and every year find at least one HP that I am looking for for $400. FFL gunshow vendors ask $7-800 for new ones and llie about their products worse than pawnshops.

Keep looking and you will find one in your price range."

jaysouth, I would like to see you back up anything you have said here other than you attend 8-10 gunshows a year and you find at least on HP. Attending 8-10 gunshows per year hardly gives you a sampling to comment on most Dealers do or say. I attend gunshow every weekend every year with the exceptions I can count on one hand. I find "most" Dealers to be honest. Why do you insist on spreading such tripe?

[moewadle]

And I would like to add to that, the Browning MSRP AS STATED ON THE WEB SITE IS $820 for a 9mm, fixed sights, Standard HP which is with blueing and walnut grips, not $600-700. Moe

[rellascout]

I forgot to ask...what is the difference between the FN and FM besides the quality? Moe

The FN is the exact same gun as the BHP but has different role mark. FN Herstal owns Browning, The FN marked hi powers are older production MKIII pistols that were produced to be sold to the LE market. FN was not successful in this endeavor so the pistols were sold to wholesalers like CDNN and were sold for $400 to $450 depending on finish.

The FM hi powers are clones made in Argentina. They are built to the BHP spec but are not real hipowers. Their fit and finish is inferior. I have also heard reports of their barrel lugs showing significant wear after as little as 2,00 rounds. They are good guns for the money but I would not pay more than $200 for one.

I agree with Tejas Gunwerks if you look around and are patient a very nice $400 to $500 hi power can be yours.

Here is a few pics of mine.

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I had some custom work done on it. C&S sear, extended safety, Commander hammer, Novak Nite Sights. 4.5 lbs trigger with a very smooth clean reset. It is the finest 9mm I have ever owned and I own Sigs, HKs, Steyrs & CZs.

Good luck. Get a BHP you will like it.

PS check out http://www.hipowersandhandguns.com/HiPowerComments.html
This is Stephen Camps site and has all the info you need on the BHP.

[kokapelli]

That's right, some times it just takes luck and a little patience.

I was browsing in a local gun shop and found my BHP.

I paid $400 +tx for this Wilson modified BHP about 7 years ago.

It has Wilson night sights, competion hammer, trigger job, extended ambidextrious safety, very thin wood grips and the shop owner thinks it has been throated for reliability.

I figure this was a once in a lifetime find.

http://www.wtv-zone.com/jnib/images/ktog/highpowe_w.jpg

[HorseSoldier]

Where I live you can very occasionally find used BHPs in pawn shops and gun stores for $400-450, though condition can vary from pretty good to pretty clapped out without much variation in asking price.

New ones run more like $700-750.

A new Charles Daly will run you less than $400, but I don't know if they even do those with blued finish. The only ones I've seen have been parkerized flat black types.

[brucets11]

Some models have the adjustable sites that go out to 500m. What's this do to the price?

[10-Ring]

I bought my Practical BHP for $425. It showed a little wear, came w/ 5 mags, a holster and 500 rounds of ammo. I've put a few hundred $$ more into it to get it the way I want it...that is to say...SWEET! :cool:

[BHPshooter]

I would not get a FM. They barrel is soft and will wear heavily in the lock up area with extensive shooting.

That was certainly NOT the experience I had with mine. It had over 2,000 rounds thru it when I bought it, then I put about 4,500 rounds through it... the barrel lugs were still sharp and clean. I have certainly been more impressed with FM's HPs than I have been with FEG/Chuck Daly's.

what is the difference between the FN and FM besides the quality?

FN stands for Fabrique Nationale, out of Belgium. They own Browning... FN and Browning guns are identical, other than different markings. They're made in the same place on the same machines by the same people.

FM stands for Fabrica Militar, out of Argentina. They were once a licenced manufacturer of BHPs (for sale to the Argentine military), but their licence has expired. However, the guns that they still make are made on FN machinery.

The biggest difference is fit and finish, and of course, price. I have a Browning and an FN, but I formerly owned a FM-Argentine HP, also. I wish I still had it. It was a great, solid gun that shot wonderfully. Other than the magazine that came with it, I have NO complaints about the one that I had.

Wes