Illegal ammo?


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crazed_ss
August 27, 2006, 10:37 PM
Can anyone tell what kind of ammo this is?

http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/9741306/detail.html

This quote from the cop in the article seemed odd..
"These are military rounds, and you're not supposed to have them. These are illegal," Pugsley said."

http://www.nbcsandiego.com/2006/0826/9741378_320X240.jpg

If the pic doesnt show up, it's the 4th one in the slideshow.

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oneshooter
August 27, 2006, 11:03 PM
Looks like Colibini Ammo, either 38 or 357. Maybe JSP?

Oneshooter
Livin in Texas

crazed_ss
August 27, 2006, 11:09 PM
Hmm.. Ok thanks. I couldnt read the box.

I did a search for "Super Colibri" ammo and got a bunch of hits for this stuff:
http://www.aguilaammo.com/supercolibri.htm .. The box looks the same as in the picture.. seems to come in .22LR
http://glocktalk.com/sitemap/topic/394429-1.html

What bothers me is the cop saying "military ammo" is illegal. It seems that cops often times dont even know the laws they are supposed to enforce. lol.. This isnt Mexico, we're allowed to have military caliber ammo, even in California.

I wonder *** the cop was talking about.

Keith Wheeler
August 27, 2006, 11:13 PM
Looks like the super-quiet .22 a couple of well known low cost/surplus houses sell. If that's what it is, it's basically a .22 with only a hot primer charge. Fairly quiet -- really quiet from some a long barrel bolt action.

Maybe the cop had confused "quiet ammo" with "silenced gun"?

Edit: Oh, San Diego. There are a few reasons why I don't live there anymore.

Gifted
August 27, 2006, 11:39 PM
It looks like .22 ammo. Military my :cuss:

isp2605
August 27, 2006, 11:42 PM
Hard to say exactly what Det Pugsley actually said. The only thing to go off of is the newspaper report. Apparently the subject in this case, being a convicted felon, can't legally possess guns and ammo. Who knows what Pugsley actually said and if it was even close to what's reported.
Any of you who have dealt with reporters, particularly when it comes to firearms, know that getting the right info quoted is sometimes more an effort in futility. I've been quoted by the media as saying an arrest was made of someone with a 12 ga automatic pistol. The guy had a 12 ga with a pistol grip. But reading the paper it sounded like the guy might have been carrying a 1911 chambered for 12 ga. Firearms technicalities and laws go right over the head of a lot of reporters.

Hawkmoon
August 27, 2006, 11:55 PM
It has been a number of years since I was in the Army, but my best recollection is that military ammo doesn't come in brightly-coloured boxes ...

Zedicus
August 28, 2006, 12:25 AM
my best recollection is that military ammo doesn't come in brightly-coloured boxes ...

+1

Military ammo usually comes in Olive Drab or Black colored Ammo Boxes.

That cop is full of the stuff he's shoveling.

cbsbyte
August 28, 2006, 12:33 AM
Oh it happend in California? How suprising.

Third_Rail
August 28, 2006, 12:42 AM
I have bricks of that stuff... really quiet out of a rifle. Think "TICK" of the firing pin, then "whap" of the bullet. It's neat.

MNgoldenbear
August 28, 2006, 12:59 AM
Aguila SuperColibri .22 rimfire, mfg in Mexico.

Little louder than the Colibri. I think it has just a bit of powder, vs. the Colibri which is supposed to be just primer-fired -- sort of a reincarnation of the BB cap.

Some have reported good accuracy from bolt guns at pellet gun distances for dispatching pigeons in barns, etc. I've not had much luck with it personally, but it is very quiet.

Frog48
August 28, 2006, 02:59 AM
The news story says that the police were searching the recycling center for stolen bronze vases. Seems kinda strange that they searched the safe, when the recycling materials were the focus of the investigation.

I cant speak for anyone but myself, but I store recyclable materials in a recycling bin, not my safe.

isp2605
August 28, 2006, 09:08 AM
Most likely they were looking for records to see who the guy was getting the stolen items from. When you do a search warrant most generally you are also looking for records to see who else is involved, if there is documentation where items came from, or indications of where items had gone.

delloro
August 28, 2006, 01:22 PM
that ammo out of a hangun is not powerful enough for military interest. betcha anything he plinked rats at his scrapyard with it.

Erebus
August 28, 2006, 02:06 PM
betcha anything he plinked rats at his scrapyard with it.He used to, now he's getting dragged through the mud by the Kommifornia authorities. Hopefully someone does some research or at least calls the manufacturor and finds out that it's perfectly legal before they charge him and go to trial and cost him a fortune.

isp2605
August 28, 2006, 02:15 PM
Hopefully someone does some research or at least calls the manufacturor and finds out that it's perfectly legal before they charge him and go to trial and cost him a fortune.
There is that part about him being a convicted felon in possession of firearms and ammo.

BIGDADDYLONGSTROKE
August 28, 2006, 02:16 PM
Just curious Ive never been in the military, so please no hazing but does the U.S. military have any use for .22 ammo I know they use .223 but actually use the .22lr and such?

Frog48
August 28, 2006, 02:20 PM
does the U.S. military have any use for .22 ammo

Not that I know of...

isp2605
August 28, 2006, 02:21 PM
.22 is sometimes used for training using .22 adapters in M-16s using reduced ranges and reduced targets. Everything we always got in was W-W made stuff in white boxes.

EOD Guy
August 28, 2006, 02:22 PM
He may have had some tracer ammo that didn't show in the picture. Tracer ammunition, except for shotguns, is illegal in California.

Yes, there is such a thing as shotgun ammunition with tracers.

EOD Guy
August 28, 2006, 02:27 PM
.22 is sometimes used for training using .22 adapters in M-16s using reduced ranges and reduced targets. Everything we always got in was W-W made stuff in white boxes.

Millions of rounds are also used every year in competitions and practice for those competitions. It is also used in ROTC and JROTC programs.

Geno
August 28, 2006, 02:40 PM
Not all LEOs Know the Law. Recently a deputy in Southfield, MI was going to arrest a gentleman who was carrying multiple pistols (legally).

Why?

Because "...a MCPL permited a person to carry only 1 pistol". Not! See my recent post for very detailed explanation. It's worth the read.

See post #63 in the following thread:

http://thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=213801&highlight=Doc2005

Doc2005

isp2605
August 28, 2006, 04:46 PM
Millions of rounds are also used every year in competitions and practice for those competitions.
Yup, that too. I had a High Standard issued to me when I was shooting military match. We also had a few Colt Aces for practice.

Keith Wheeler
August 28, 2006, 05:26 PM
does the U.S. military have any use for .22 ammo

I don't know about now, but various US military and para-military organizations have in the past. Training, survival rifles, and the CIA loved their High Standards. Didn't Powers have one on him when he was shot down?

Now as far as other militaries are concerned, the IDF has a number of silenced Ruger 10/22s.

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