Where did she get the gun? Mother holds son at gun point ...


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Nando Aqui
May 10, 2003, 08:27 AM
I didn't find anywhere any mention of where the mother got the pistol she is pointing at her three-year-old son.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,3-675659,00.html

Does anyone know?

Alex

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dj53
May 10, 2003, 08:39 AM
NBC news this morning had an interview with the county sheriff. It seems that she took the gun off a local sheriff, investigation over possible procedural violations ongoing.

Mastrogiacomo
May 10, 2003, 09:31 AM
According to this mornings Boston Herald, she stole a deputy's gun and patrol car and then kidnapped her three year old son. When she burst into her sister's trailer -- who had custody of her child, she shot her sister's dog on the way in. After she threated to kill her son, Capt. Mark Collins who was standing 10 feet away, took a head shot and killed her.

El Tejon
May 10, 2003, 09:53 AM
What? She didn't buy it at a gun show?

Darrin
May 10, 2003, 09:53 AM
Here's a local news website for TN. It's still the cover story (http://www.newschannel5.com/).

Chipperman
May 10, 2003, 12:49 PM
I guess the Cops need Smart Guns too.
:rolleyes:

Standing Wolf
May 10, 2003, 04:51 PM
“The child is safe and that’s absolutely the No 1 thing,” Sheriff Lloyd Emmons said. “Unfortunately, she engaged my deputy with the handgun, and she was shot.”
Of Lovell, who was taken away by ambulance, he said: “We certainly hope she’ll be all right.”

Why?

Coronach
May 10, 2003, 05:54 PM
Because if you don't say that, someone, somewhere (quite possibly on THR) will demonize him and the department as a bunch of jackbooted thugs who decided to just up and shoot her rather than explore other options, thats why.

Do a search here, sometime. ;)

Mike

bigjim
May 10, 2003, 07:50 PM
Right..... we should not question when a cop kills a citizen.

They are so well trained and immune from over reaction. There has never been any history of abuse of power.

Waitone
May 10, 2003, 07:54 PM
There are times when I'm ashamed of the time I spend on THR. This thread is one.

TheeBadOne
May 11, 2003, 08:34 AM
Lovell Faces Several Charges When Released From Hospital

By Dwayne Page

28 year old Karen Lynn Lovell is in far more trouble with the law now than she was before her jail escape Friday morning.

Lovell, serving a sentence of 11 months and 29 days for telephone harassment and stalking, now faces charges of escape, reckless endangerment with a weapon and possibly several other offenses.

Sheriff Lloyd Emmons says Lovell is in stable condition at Erlanger Hospital in Chattanooga and her prognosis for recovery is good.

Lovell was shot once in the right temple by Captain Mark Collins after she failed to heed his commands to drop the 40 caliber Glock handgun she held while standing on the back porch of Bill Ferrell's home at 133 King Ridge Road shortly after 11:00 a.m. Friday. Lovell pointed the gun at Captain Collins while he was talking to her and she pointed it at the head of her three year old son Kaden, who she was also holding during the standoff.

Sheriff Emmons says just before the shooting, Lovell told Captain Collins that "You're fixing to work a murder/suicide".

Captain Collins pleaded with Lovell not to hurt the child saying " If you're going to shoot someone, shoot me."

Sheriff Emmons says Lovell then said "I'm going to kill him (the child)". He says Lovell then closed her eyes and gritted her teeth and Captain Collins, thinking she was about to pull the trigger, fired the shot that struck Lovell in the head as she stood between the glass storm door and the wooden door to the Ferrell home. Glass from the storm door shattered as Lovell fell to the ground.

Captain Collins then ran toward Lovell and grabbed the child. Sheriff Emmons says Kaden was not seriously injured.

Lovell pleaded guilty on February 28 to two counts of telephone harassment and one count of stalking. She received three sentences of 11 months and 29 days to run concurrently. She was indicted in December 2001 for harassing a Smithville woman.

Court documents indicate Lovell was sent to Moccasin Bend Mental Health Institute in Chattanooga earlier this year for an evaluation to determine whether she was competent to stand trial.

The documents say a psychologist initially found Lovell incompetent but believed her mental health could improve with treatment. About two weeks later, after treatment, Lovell significantly improved and was found capable of understanding the charges against her. No specifics were given on her mental illness or treatment.

BulletinBoardToughGuy
May 11, 2003, 10:00 AM
We need more gun laws, I propose the following...

A law making it illegal for a deputy to give a prisoner their gun.

Then something like this can't happen again. It may seem silly to you gun nuts, but you want to save the children, don't you?!? If you say no, I will label you a "baby killer"... :rolleyes:

This occurs, a Police chief shoots his wife when she tries to divorce him, the newly elected sheriff, in the county where I work, is shot by the previous sheriff...

I am ready to give up my weapons because the police are here to protect me... :banghead:


Sorry for the rant, but at times I feel I need protection from the police more than my fellow man.

jacketch
May 11, 2003, 01:21 PM
And did the guy who shot her in the temple (wounding her) also have a .40cal Glock?

bigjim
May 11, 2003, 05:44 PM
I don' think it was a .40 Glock. There was no mention of the gun exploding.:uhoh:

Standing Wolf
May 11, 2003, 06:35 PM
The documents say a psychologist initially found Lovell incompetent but believed her mental health could improve with treatment. About two weeks later, after treatment, Lovell significantly improved and was found capable of understanding the charges against her. No specifics were given on her mental illness or treatment.

Round and round the mulberry bush!

foghornl
May 12, 2003, 01:04 PM
Pointing a weapon at her own child (to me) puts Karen Lovell in the same class as Susan Smith of Union, SC (claimed she was car jacked, but left her 2 sons strapped it their car seats, and rolled said car into the lake near Union, SC. And with Amanda Yates, drowned her 5 kids in bathtub at home (somewhere in TX).

To me, it is another crime that any of those 3 are still able to make use of oxygen.

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