[Jackal]

My title pretty much sums it up. If i sell a gun here on THR Buy and Sell, why cant i just send the gun to the purchaser and skip the FFL? I live in Washington state. I just dont see the difference between shipping a gun to someone, or selling it to them at a swap meet. Anyone know?

[Myself]

Reading material. I do not presume to judge it just passing it on for your education and to keep you out of trouble. :)

http://www.atf.gov/firearms/faq/faq2.htm#b1

[BevrFevr]

There was this little incident in the 60's maybe you heard about it. It is commonly known as the Kennedy assasination. It sort of happened after a guy ordered a rifle in the mail and sat around in a texas library for a while.

After that, things changed a bit.

Books aren't just for leveling lopsided tables.

History! learn it or repeat it. Your choice! -bevr

[lesgeaux]

If the firearm does not cross state lines then I believe that you can send it directly. If it does then you definetly have to send it to a FFL for transfer.

[Jim Watson]

Agree, but...
It is legal - Federal, I don't know about Wash. - to ship a gun to an American Commoner in the same state.
Thing is, the common carriers [UPS, FedEx] and the post office probably won't accept it; their CYA rules are more restrictive than law.

[BevrFevr]

Isn't that only for long arms?

[lesgeaux]

I would have to look the particular sentence up again and the title, possibly only for long guns. No lawyer here, so, state laws would have to be read also.

[323D3F3C!7$]

Disclaimer: I am not an attorney and therefore I am not permitted, nor qualified to give legal advice. Below is MY INTERPRETATION of the the BATFs rules and regulations.

This is something I have been wondering about also, but according to my interpretation the BATFs site, it says that if you're in state, and the RIFLE or SHOTGUN* is non-NFA, then you can ship it via mail, but you shouldn't mark the box as containing anything out of the ordinary.

Handguns can be bought person to person in-state, I THINK.

They also say that any gun bought out-of-state MUST be shipped to an FFL. Whether in person or mail order.

Also if you buy person to person, you don't have to fill out a 4473.

*No handguns, machineguns, antitank guns(over .50 cal), bazookas, mortars, grenades, molotav coktails, etc. Rifles and shotguns only can be shipped.

Hope this helps, B.

[lamazza]

kinda hard to believe isn't it?
Do can't even do what you want with your personal property anymore with out getting the fed govt involved

[SnakeEater]

Yep, all firearms shipped out of state must go to a FFL holder. Also, handguns can only be shipped through UPS or FEDEX, and only via overnight$$ The overnight thing is company policy, not the law.

I ship long-guns Priority Mail, and handguns UPS ground. I simply don't tell UPS what is in the box. Risky, yes, but it has never failed me.