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Woodsmoke
September 7, 2006, 07:38 PM
Okay, here is the situation. I want a .357 sig and .40 sw glock. I want to be able to change out the barrels and run the gun. The problem is I don't know which model to start out with.

Should I buy the Glock 31 in .357 sig and buy a replacement .40 sw barrel or should I buy the Glock 22 in .40 and buy a replacement .357 sig barrel.

Are the internal working parts the same for each gun? Are spring tensions tighter for either one?

I thought about buying the model 22 and then getting a fully supported .357 barrel, but I am wondering if the gun wouldn't be torn up from the higher pressure of the .357. What are the differences between these two guns?

Also, has anyone had problems replacing stock glock barrels with fully supported drop in barrels?

Any help is appreciated.

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Reyn
September 7, 2006, 07:53 PM
It is my understanding they are the same as far as the frame. Personally i would probably get the .40 and by a .357 barrel. Reason being the .40 is still more popular which would make it easier to sell or trade later if you choose. I have both a 31 and a 22.

BIGDADDYLONGSTROKE
September 7, 2006, 08:00 PM
if your needing armor piercing or moreover penetration and you have the money to buy both, why not spen the money on just one gun that will do the job FN 5.7 or a another pistol in a rifle caliber.


Or you could just go to your rifle.

Im just trying to figure out what your usin this for home defense carry weapon or a neet shooter.

10-Ring
September 7, 2006, 08:04 PM
IMO, I'd go w/ the 40 cal 1st & the 357 sig barrel later.

Woodsmoke
September 7, 2006, 08:04 PM
I suppose I could just buy both, but I was hoping to kill two birds with one stone. I never thought about the resale value, one more variable to add to the equation.

Woodsmoke
September 7, 2006, 08:08 PM
"Go to your rifle."


Go to your room! Oh wait, uh.... nevermind.:neener:

10-Ring
September 7, 2006, 08:08 PM
Chances are tho, if you do sell the gun, the other barrel w/ go w/ it.

Woodsmoke
September 7, 2006, 08:14 PM
Chances are tho, if you do sell the gun, the other barrel w/ go w/ it.

Very true, I have to wonder if anyone would get hung up over model number though.

Woodsmoke
September 7, 2006, 08:19 PM
if your needing armor piercing or moreover penetration and you have the money to buy both, why not spen the money on just one gun that will do the job FN 5.7 or a another pistol in a rifle caliber.

I would but I just don't think that 5.7 is going to catch on like .357 sig has. Did you know that the Texas DPS is thinking about switching to it now? Besides, you just like 5.7 because that is what Sam Fisher uses. :p

I would consider it, but right now those guns aren't cheap and neither is the ammo.

BIGDADDYLONGSTROKE
September 7, 2006, 08:24 PM
Your worried about the money but your gonna buy 2 guns when you only need one? And if your needing a handgun that is a super duper ultamate zombie gummy bear bustin round why not go with the DE .50?

Woodsmoke
September 7, 2006, 08:56 PM
I need this gun for when I go to my brother's house and have to deal with his zombie gummy bear, car stealin', knife wheelin', goat eating, psycho neighbors.

You need to post a question asking what is so great about the .357 sig and see what kind of responses you get. No doubt you will get the usual "You should have used the search function" posts, but I bet you will get some interesting posts and maybe some good links. If you do, we will both be shooting .357 before Thanksgiving.

I tell you what.

If you buy a Glock model 22, I will buy a Glock model 22 and we can give each other .357 sig barrels for Christmas. ;)

What do you say?

trickyasafox
September 7, 2006, 08:58 PM
i'd say model 31 and pick up a 40 barrel, 40 is more popular so you could probably find a used barrel more affordably than a 357 sig barrel

Woodsmoke
September 7, 2006, 09:05 PM
Tricky,

I am not sure where to find used barrels. Is there a common place they are sold (website, magazine) or is it an opportunity thing?

And your right. It does sound profound. :)

BIGDADDYLONGSTROKE
September 7, 2006, 09:15 PM
I think about it and talking about the Texas DPS did you know the LAPD SWAT uses the Kimber Custom II 1911 in .45 acp? I thought you wanted the
.400 corbon Ill buy a Glock 22 and then youll want something else, I tell you what you figure out exactly what you want and then Ill let you buy me one:D

Woodsmoke
September 7, 2006, 09:17 PM
I want it all!

Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha ......

BIGDADDYLONGSTROKE
September 7, 2006, 10:22 PM
You have it all, I know, I tell you what why dont we buy each other hunting guns stuff for those, I think we both have enough zombie weapons lets face it if WWIV brakes out in my apartment I think I will survive but between the 2 of us Im the only one that lives were there is some good outdoor recreation, so why dont we take advantage of this while im here. Just my .02 worth or we can just buy it all:evil:

JohnKSa
September 7, 2006, 11:34 PM
Get a 10mm.

Then you can buy barrels in both .40S&W and .357Sig. ;)

Woodsmoke
September 8, 2006, 01:38 AM
John,

Just to make sure I understand you correctly, if I buy a 10mm glock I can then change out the barrels to .40 and .357 without having to change out any internal parts? Would I need different magazines?

I wonder if I could get a 9 x 25 Dillon barrel?

Can you provide a link to information where people have done this before?

ugaarguy
September 8, 2006, 01:53 AM
Just to make sure I understand you correctly, if I buy a 10mm glock I can then change out the barrels to .40 and .357 without having to change out any internal parts? Yes
Would I need different magazines?
No
I wonder if I could get a 9 x 25 Dillon barrel?
IIRC, yes, generally a special order item.
Can you provide a link to information where people have done this before?
http://www.efkfiredragon.com/faq.php
www.glockmeister.com
www.glocktalk.com

JohnKSa
September 8, 2006, 01:58 AM
I've even heard that people have pretty good luck putting a 9mm conversion barrel in a 10mm pistol. Extraction can be spotty due to the differing case head diameter, but generally there are no problems from what folks have put on the web.

To be perfectly clear, we're talking about conversion barrels here. Unlike the .40 to .357sig swap where you can take out a stock barrel and put in another stock barrel, the barrels for the 10mm will have to be conversion barrels. That is a barrel that is externally designed to go in a 10mm Glock but is chambered for the caliber of your choice.

You shouldn't have problems locating those items, but you can't just order one from Glock (to my knowledge.)

Woodsmoke
September 8, 2006, 02:25 AM
Fantastic. That is what I will do then. I have been doing a little research since I read your post and I don't know how I missed them. I suppose if you aren't looking for it then you just overlook it. Thanks. I really appreciate the post.

ugaarguy
September 8, 2006, 02:30 AM
Woodsmoke, just remember that the Glock 20 has a larger grip frame to accomadate the longer 10mm cartridge. Make sure it fits your hand first, and if it does you'll have a very versatile platform.

Harley Quinn
September 8, 2006, 02:38 AM
Better go and feel a few of the 10's before you commit. They are quite a bit bigger and bulkier gun then the 40 S&W mdl 22 Glock.:uhoh:

You can find barrels on E-bay I see them all the time.

HQ:)

High_Cap
September 8, 2006, 10:21 AM
You can also convert the 22,31 or 23,32 to 9mm

All you have to do is the barrel swap out extractor and ejector. 5 minutes tops.

Than you can have a 32,23,19 all in one handy gun.

Just make sure you buy a 40 or 357 sig cause you can go down but not up.

JohnKSa
September 8, 2006, 08:43 PM
Good points on the grip size of the 10mms. They're a noticeable bump up in size. You should definitely handle one at the least and shoot one if possible.

xingr8
September 9, 2006, 01:53 AM
I have a Glock 20 and a KKM .40 S&W conversion barrel for it. KKM also makes a .357 Sig conversion barrel for the G20. They also make 6" barrels for the G20 in 10mm, .40 and .357 all for about $165 each. The G20 with the .40 KKM is extremely accurate and works all the time. I am very happy with my KKM. I have put about 2000 rounds of .40 through it since once fired brass for it is easy to come by (I reload). The 10mm magazines work fine for .40 and I am told they also work for .357. I have made loads from 230 ft-lb to 700 ft-lb and they have all worked fine in the G20 with the factory 17 lb recoil spring. It takes almost 15 seconds to change barrels on the G20. Just be sure you have the right cartridges in the mag.

shooterwolf
September 9, 2006, 02:53 PM
About 3 months ago I was debating the 40/357sig question. The 357 sig has a higher operating pressure than the 40s.w.I bought a Glock 32 and figured I could get a 40 barrel later on.If you sell the gun chances are extra barrels and other accessories will go with it. After shooting the 357 sig, about a 1000 rounds, I have no desire to buy another barrel. Handloading really drops the ammo price and adds versatility to this caliber. If you can reload bottleneck rifle cartridges than you can reload the 357sig.

michiganfan
September 9, 2006, 03:06 PM
I got a 23 and a 20 and have 357 sig barrells for both. Both are drop in barrells and both mags will hold 357 sig. I do not carry with the 357 sig barell for defense, those barrells are just for fun.

possum
September 9, 2006, 03:32 PM
IMO, I'd go w/ the 40 cal 1st & the 357 sig barrel later
+1

I would personally get the glock 23 and then get the .357 sig barrel

lepmik
September 9, 2006, 03:55 PM
Did you try asking at Glocktalk?

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