Info on Walther P-99 needed...
HBK
May 10, 2003, 08:50 PM
Anyone that has ever used a Walther P-99, what is your opinion of the weapon? Have you ever heard anything negative about it?
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denfoote
May 10, 2003, 10:43 PM
I happen to carry the P99. No, I ain't got nuttin bad to say about it!! :cool:
It keeps going BANG every time I squeeze the trigger and the rounds keep going where I tell them to!! :evil:
It rides in a PREDATOR (http://www.predator-holsters.com/) Kydex IWB holster. :)
Bowlcut
May 10, 2003, 11:23 PM
I have a sw99, clone of the p99, and love it. Have shot a p99 and it felt the same. Very nice gun, worth every cent in my mind. cslinger said he had a little trouble with his, but a trip back to Walther America and it was working just fine. Fit and finish on them are great, compliment the great looks of the gun.
Just make sure you find an all german gun...in my opinion 9x19 perferrably. There should be no trouble finding an all german gun these days. Look for the N over eagle stamp on the slide, barrel, and the frame to make sure its all german.
David S
May 10, 2003, 11:44 PM
The best d*mn gun ever!
the only bad thing is i dont have more
Wildalaska
May 11, 2003, 01:11 AM
Awesome pistols
WildloveemAlaska
HBK
May 11, 2003, 02:27 AM
So where can I get some accessories for Walther P-99, like Kydex holsters and Night sights?
denfoote
May 11, 2003, 06:13 AM
Night sights: TRIJICON NIGHT SITES (http://www.trijicon-inc.com/) (this is a hyperlink. So is the "PREDATOR" link in my post!!! ;) Click on it and see what happens!!! )
WhoKnowsWho
May 11, 2003, 10:11 AM
My wife has one in 9mm, I like it a lot, wouldn't mind one of my own.
And we both like it much better in every way over a SW99 :)
lunde
May 11, 2003, 10:37 AM
The P99 is an outstanding pistol in almost every way. Its trigger is superb, with a light and crisp SA, and a short and crisp reset.
http://www.praxagora.com/lunde/photos/p99-9-left-full.jpg
gbelleh
May 11, 2003, 10:46 AM
I have a 9mm P99 and I have to say I was not impressed with it the first time out. I was using 115 gr. FMJ and I had several jams. Later I found out that some P99s don't like 115 gr. ammo during break-in. So, I took it out again using American Eagle 124 gr. FMJ and WOW! It was like a different gun. No failures of any kind and extremely accurate. I haven't had any problems with it since that first time out. So, now that it's broken in I can say I'm very impressed with it.
NEtracker
May 12, 2003, 11:59 AM
I have the P99 9mm.
Great pistol! Eats everything I've tried.
Real easy takedown for cleaning.
I still have the original sights on it, but thinking about Meprolights.
762x51
May 12, 2003, 12:03 PM
I love my P99 9mm. Nothing bad to say about it. Fits my hand perfectly and has never had so much as a hiccup.
For night sights I recommend the Meprolights. Great price and mine have been great since I locktighted the front sight screw.
Penforhire
May 12, 2003, 07:09 PM
Another P99 fan here. Easier for me to shoot than my other guns. Easy takedown and cleaning. More accurate and reliable than I am. I just need some night sights and then I'll be satisfied.
modifiedbrowning
May 12, 2003, 07:29 PM
HBK, I have two 9mm P99's, a black and a QPQ. Both are excellent pistols, accurate, light etc.
For night sights check out Meprolights at www.arizonagunrunners.com. $65 bucks, work with your existing sight hardware.
For Kydex you have some options. I use an IWB from Blade Tech. works very well. Other companies include Ky-Tec, Sidearmor, Fist, and possibly Fobus.
For Pre ban magazines (16rnd) do a search here for Robert Johnson, I have bought some of the "turkish " mags from him and they work great.
If you are looking at buying a P99 I say go for it. You will not be disappointed.
Mike
jimbo
May 12, 2003, 07:39 PM
I like everything about it except the triggers. DA is very long. SA is "spongy." Can anything be done to fix the lousy P99 trigger? Who does action jobs on P99s?
jimbo
May 12, 2003, 07:41 PM
lunde,
I beg to differ. IMHO there is nothing "crisp" about the P99 trigger. If a good trigger is supposed to break suddenly like glass, the P99 trigger is like squeezing a rubber ball. It breaks suddenly but definitely not "crisp."
Edited -- Now I'm not sure! It has about a 1/4 inch of spongy play until take-up and then it does get pretty crisp at let-off. I guess I just dislike the resistance feel in the trigger take-up.
lunde
May 12, 2003, 07:44 PM
Jimbo, you wrote:I like everything about it except the triggers. DA is very long. SA is "spongy." Can anything be done to fix the lousy P99 trigger? Who does action jobs on P99s?How many rounds do you have through your P99? While the DA trigger does not stand out compared to other DA triggers, its SA trigger is superb, with a short and crisp reset. The SA triggers of mine are all very smooth, after about 500 rounds. It's light and crisp.
I suggest keeping an open mind when using the P99 trigger, and do not necessarily compare it to other triggers. I made that mistake, and sold my first P99. I now own four of them. Two in 9mm, and two in .40 Auto. The anti-stress portion of the SA trigger (that is, the trigger is forward, but the striker is cocked) is intentionally long. But, when you squeeze it a little bit, it will lock in the rear position, which then requires minimal effort to squeeze to fire a shot. This movement from the forward to rear position, when in SA mode, is the "anti-stress" aspect of the trigger.
lunde
May 12, 2003, 07:49 PM
Jimbo, you continued to write:I beg to differ. IMHO there is nothing "crisp" about the P99 trigger. If a good trigger is supposed to break suddenly like glass, the P99 trigger is like squeezing a rubber ball. It breaks suddenly but definitely not "crisp."Have you tried other P99s? What triggers, in terms of other brands/models in stock configuration, do you consider to be crisp? My HK P7s have crisp triggers (SA-only), but their trigger reset is so long that it cannot be called a short reset. Whenever I let people try my P99s at the range, I am often asked who did the trigger job, and I enjoy telling them that it is stock, but that it took a good 500 rounds through the gun to become that smooth.
jimbo
May 12, 2003, 07:57 PM
Hi lunde,
check my edited post above.
I have less than 500 rounds through my P99. I fired about 250 rounds in it, but like my Sigs so much better, I never really went back to shooting the P99. Great ergos but I just am not crazy about the trigger.
I guess I've never found an out-of-the-box ammo with a "crisp" trigger. It has to be modified by a gunsmith. I'm always searching for that S&W revolver SA trigger feel. It takes an action job to get auto triggers there, i think.
Although I would say my Kimber's trigger is very crisp out-of-box. But I don't count 1911 triggers when comparing the SA trigger pull on DA/SA triggers.
lunde
May 12, 2003, 08:02 PM
Jimbo,
If you have only 250 rounds through your P99, put another 250 rounds through it, and I am sure that you'll find the trigger will get better. Dry-firing, to your heart's content, in SA and DA modes, also helps. My P99s are the only pistols I own that I feel don't need a trigger job of any kind. A lot of people don't give the P99 a chance, sell it, and often discover too late that they had an excellent pistol.
Jrob24
May 12, 2003, 08:40 PM
My dads P99(which I want to buy from him) is comfortable to shoot, hasn't jammed, and is decently accurate. Taking the slide off for cleaning is easy. All I could ask for is cheaper full-caps.
Traithe
May 12, 2003, 09:31 PM
I like my P99 QA. It has a consistant trigger pull that reminds me of a Glock. It shoots like a dream. I bought mine used and in good condition, but I have no idea how many rounds were fired through it before I got it. Whoever had it before me did a good job of breaking it in though, because I have never had a malfunction in the 500+ rounds I've fired through it.
faustulus
May 12, 2003, 09:54 PM
I had one as part of my 'which poly framed gun do I like experiment' -- the answer so far is 'none'
I wanted to like it but the trigger reach wasn't right for me. I could hit the broad side of a barn with it but just barely. I have the same problem with Kahrs and glocks. My friend had a SW99 in .40 and loved it.
slh02
May 12, 2003, 09:58 PM
... tell people how great the p99 is. I took a full year to decide on my first pistol and it was the p99. This gun will eat anything you feed it. I never experienced any break in problems and really only feed the gun 115 gr. ammo. It even fired a round that had been under water for 3 days (dont ask). Its also easy to take down with only 3 steps to field strip. Overall, I feel its the best blend of ergonomics, durability and elegance out there.
HBK
May 12, 2003, 10:45 PM
That's great news. I had fired about 2000 rounds through my Walther P-99 when the firing control broke, during a class no less. I guess it was a fluke since everyone is so high on the P-99 and no one has anything bad to say about it. I sent it to S&W today. They even paid the overnight shipping. I hope I get it back soon. The Meprolights are great sights and I have them on my P-99, but I am thinking of buying another P-99 and thought of getting either Trijcon or the ones made by Earl in MA. Thanks for the information and letting me know there are others out there who love Walther P-99s as much as me.
TheMariner
May 13, 2003, 09:08 PM
.40S&W P99 here.... WOULDN'T trade it for all the high-cap, wonder nines in the world... Nice trigger, sights stand out, grip fits nicely... I love the 1911 but I have yet to find a 1911 that fit me this well... Great for CCW too.
blades67
May 13, 2003, 09:18 PM
I've heard mostly good things about the P99. I haven't had any serious problems with my P99. The one problem I've had with mine has been with 115 grain loads stovepiping sometimes. I've never had any problems with 124 and 147 grain loads.
Target Shooter
May 14, 2003, 12:41 AM
I recently found and purchased a all German Walther P99 with the Od Green frame in a 40 S&W. I love it!!!!!
venom600
May 14, 2003, 03:17 AM
I love my P99 .40 !!! (as if you haven't heard that already). I've got well over 2000 trouble-free rounds through it at this point.
Sights: Meprolight tritium sights all the way! They're not too expensive, they're bright, and they were a breeze to install.
I've got a small page put up about my P99 here:
http://www.venom600.org/guns/P99/index.php
You should also visit the P99 FAQ maintained by Dr. Lunde and James Lenaburg.:
http://www.praxagora.com/lunde/WaltherP99FAQ/
--Ben
Island Beretta
May 14, 2003, 08:21 PM
Very good pistol..I consider it to be the best polymer 9mm around..
my Beretta 92 runs circles around it though..:D :D
Whilst we are at it, I understand that a leading Glock accessories shop now stock accessories for the P99, anyone know which shop this is?? Also whatever became of Gulfstream Sports??
HadEmAll
May 15, 2003, 09:01 PM
I have a P99 in .40, and am delighted with it. It's easily the most ergonomic pistol I've ever held. It's been flawless with 155 grain JHPs, and I find myself carrying it more and more. A thoughtful touch is the 4 different height front sights and 3 grip adapters supplied with it. My only negative is that extracted brass marks the slide right in back of the ejection port, but it's really nothing major, and cleans off easily.
eviltravis
May 16, 2003, 01:31 AM
I have a p99 in .40 cal. It fits my hand very well. I like it over all. The one thing I would change about the pistol is the interchangable back strap. I'd like to see some checkering of some sort on it, kind of like the checkering on the backstrap of my glocks. I think it would make the pistol feel more secure in the hand. Mine feels kind of slippery to me. That's about the only thing I'd improve though. The rest of the design seems perfect to me. It shoots flawlessly, and is totally acurate.
HKcenterMass
May 17, 2003, 05:49 PM
Can you fire +P or +p+ through the p99?
HBK
May 18, 2003, 01:30 PM
I think +P is okay, but not +P+.
Nathan Alexander
May 19, 2003, 01:20 AM
I find it very funny how so many people are closed-minded about the P99. Wait 'till you fire about 500 or so rounds through it before passing judgement. I didn't like the trigger at first either. Now, almost 3000 rounds later, my P99 continues to be my favorite pistol. The trigger is ultra-smooth, and peopple often want to know who worked on it.....no-one! The P99 truly is an awesome pistol...give it a chance...you just might fall in love...
PrudentGT
May 19, 2003, 06:06 AM
OMG! lunde, that was *your* site that inspired me to buy my first P99 last month! I love it! The only problem is, now I want to *use* the one I have and *buy* another blued, an OD green, and the QPQ just to sit and look pretty... and this time I'm thinking of ordering them from that guy Earl so I don't have to deal w/ the ugly S&W importer markings on the right of the slide... :)
San Jose, eh? Going to the Los Altos rod and gun shoot next month? I'd love to see any P99 stuff you've got!
lunde
May 19, 2003, 09:15 AM
PrudentGT, I am still not sure whether I'll be able to make it to the Los Altos range event next month. If I do, I'll be sure to bring a couple of my P99s.
igor
May 19, 2003, 09:15 AM
venom, you might want to check something on your site - the QA certainly isn't the approximation of DA only of Walther, the P990 is.
venom600
May 19, 2003, 12:37 PM
igor,
Thanks for the proof-read. I've updated the note, to mention both the 990 and the QA.
--Ben
blue86buick
May 19, 2003, 04:17 PM
Is there anyone on this board (or anybody know anyone) that owns a P99 (preferably 9mm, but either caliber) that lives in or around Linn or Johnson counties? I've found these guns at my local shops, and have held them a few times, but would love to be able to shoot them. Heck, I'll even buy the ammo! :) post here or PM me if you wouldn't mind.
I make it out to DM every once in a while, so if you live over there that's not a problem either...just will have to do it on the weekend.
PrudentGT
May 20, 2003, 01:35 AM
Well, hope you make it to the shoot, lunde!
As for the +p+ question, I've scoured the literature for anything that might shed some light on it, and the closest thing I could find was the manual's statement that:
'only good quality factory ammunition should be used. If you prepare your handloads be careful, and do not exceed recommended pressures in line with those generated by standard factory loads (not +P) as manufactured by Remington, Winchester, Federal, Hornady, PMC or other reputable companies.'
You could read that to mean factory ammunition, including +p or +p+, is okay, but handloads should be restricted to standard loads; or you could read it to mean that no +p or higher pressure loads should be used, including factory ammunition.
However, keep in mind that it is a modern 'service pistol,' and that it is intentionally overengineered. I imagine that firing a box or so of high pressure self defense ammo, say, for example, 124 gr +p+ Win RA9T, just to make sure your carry load functions properly, wouldn't hurt it... ;)
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