Politically correct stores stop carrying gun magazines


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Slabside
May 12, 2003, 05:57 PM
How many of you have encountered politically correct stores ceasing to carry you favorite gun magazines? Recently, most of my favorite magazine racks in stores have stopped carrying anything at all related to guns, hunting, etc. It seems about the only place to find gun magazines is at Barnes&Noble and Walmart. I'm actually surprised that B&N actually still carries them. When I read the mags at B&N in the cafe, I get the strangest looks from people. I guess it won't be long before they stop carrying them also.

What's your experience?

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iamkris
May 12, 2003, 06:27 PM
Absolutely and it is infuriating. I haven't yet asked a manager about it but I think I will. I live here in the north suburbs of Chicago and it further typifies the nanny-state we live in where PC-ness drives all thought.

Walgreens, Jewel-Osco have all stopped. B&N still has them but probably not for long.

If I go to the town where I grew up (southern Illinois) the grocery store's magazine rack if 1/2 full of gun and hunting mags. The other half is car magazines.

Standing Wolf
May 12, 2003, 07:35 PM
I noticed my local Border's Books didn't have any gun magazines, and so asked the manager why not. He made faces as though to ask how anyone could be interested in such monstrous stuff, then said there was no demand for it.

I told him he'd just lost my business, and haven't been back.

Greg L
May 12, 2003, 07:57 PM
If you're going to ask the manager why they don't carry gun magazines you should have a few other books/magazines in your hands when you do so. If you get the reaction that SW did then drop them on the floor to emphasize the fact that he is losing your business as you walk out the door (if you get a favorable response you can always stick them back on the shelf once his back is turned :evil: ).

Greg

Slabside
May 12, 2003, 08:03 PM
SW, I forgot about Border's. The funny thing about the Border's in my area is that one store has all you could ever want in the way of gun rags but the other location doesn't have a thing. Of course the one w/ the selection is in the blue collar area of town while the other is in the upscale area. Hummm.

P95Carry
May 12, 2003, 08:22 PM
A very sad reflection on our times ...... and also probably the ''thin end of wedge'' ...... :(

Hkmp5sd
May 12, 2003, 08:33 PM
Not too bad around here. Walmart and the local grocery stores still sell most gun magazines.

MeekandMild
May 12, 2003, 08:38 PM
Is it really political correctness or the fact that the customers might have IQs higher than room temperature? I don't think I'm the only one here who thinks that gun rags these dayse are not worth the paper they are printed on. See this rant by George Hill (http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=22231) for an opinion about the subject muchmore eloquent than mine.

Even The American Rifleman is running *#@^!ng articles about SUVs and 4x4's! If I didn't have a lifetime subscription I'd strongly consider never buying one.

Skunkabilly
May 12, 2003, 08:54 PM
If they do, they stick 'em where the pornos are. Trying to keep us short people from reading gun magazines...sheesh.

BulletinBoardToughGuy
May 12, 2003, 09:01 PM
I have to agree that the gun magazines these days are getting pretty pathetic in their content. Some are much better then others and some seem like the same stupid articles with just a new cover each month. The local Wal-mart has a good selection and my local Publix is decent... but the Publix near my office has none. Guess there are too many Soccer Moms. I think the magazines should put out a better product and the situation would remedy itself. But then again, I would have a subscription and wouldn't be buying it there anyway... :cool:

Slabside
May 12, 2003, 09:10 PM
MeekandMild,

Very valid point. I agree. However, now while the wife shops, there are no pretty gun pics to look at since the magazines are not on the rack.;)

sm
May 12, 2003, 09:14 PM
I receive 2 subscriptions, SWAT and American First Freedom. I honestly couldn't tell you when I last bought a magazine out somewhere. As a general rule, I'm not a shopper, and I darn sure don't go and spend $ anywhere that is anti-gun, or I can't carry concealed. Unless its college related or with mom/nephew/...no other way around it, I don't go there.

I vote with $

USGuns
May 12, 2003, 09:14 PM
FYI - Fred Meyer here in the NW still has tons of them on their racks.

Sven
May 12, 2003, 09:22 PM
At the SFO Airport bookstore, I counted (literally) 220 different magazines, and not one gun rag.

'I am sven's lack of surprise.'

Hillman
May 12, 2003, 09:31 PM
Still pretty lucky here near Detroit with gun magazines, even the local Kroger grocery store carries 'Combat Handguns'.

But when I go to Borders, I tend to raise some eyebrows. You see, I'm also a wedding & portrait photographer, so the order ends up looking like this: Brides, Wedding Pages, Vogue, Glamour, a few Harley mags, Guns & Ammo, Combat Handguns, and American Handgunner. The only thing ever said was, "You have diverse taste", though the looks of the other customers are fun to watch.

On a related note, I was at the local public library tonight. Any books on firearms must be special ordered by the head librarian from the main library.

Standing Wolf
May 12, 2003, 10:49 PM
If you get the reaction that SW did then drop them on the floor to emphasize the fact that he is losing your business as you walk out the door...

I can't imagine myself ever deliberately dropping books on a floor, but yes, indeed, next time I find myself in such a situation, I'll definitely emphasize the loss of my business in a visual way. Good suggestion! Thanks, eh?

UnknownSailor
May 13, 2003, 01:37 AM
My local Waldenbooks doesn't carry firearm magazines, but my local NEX does. Even Soldier of Fortune, which was a suprise to me.

foghornl
May 13, 2003, 11:44 AM
Hmmmm

Haven't been in the bookstore lately, but my local Giant Eagle (grocery store) still carries Combat Handguns, G&A, and others.

BTW, whenever I had the chance, I always hid Rosie's & Oprah's rags behind copies of Combat Handguns, hid Seventeen Magazine ( the liberal teen-rag, not a gun accessory :p ) behind Shotgun News or Shooting Times....:evil: :evil:

Battler
May 13, 2003, 12:42 PM
You got a point though - compared to this forum gun magazines are utter cra*.

I'd get more out of reading "troubleshooting" gun forum posts than an advertising-biased review.

longeyes
May 13, 2003, 12:49 PM
Don't worry, they got 'em under the counter, in plain wrappers.

Face it, gang, the Neo-Americans see any interest in guns as a social disease.

The truth is, you get better, more honest information on guns here and in a few other forums than you're going to in the run of gun rags. Those magazines are ad-driven, as we all know.

aircarver
May 13, 2003, 01:25 PM
With the recent thread about $10 Gunzines on the magazine rack, I can see how they might be doing themselves in.

mtnbkr
May 13, 2003, 02:32 PM
Here in Northern Va, gun and knife mags are easy to get. Every Borders and B&N has the standard collection in stock. If you want something less mainstream, Tower Record is the place to go. This is surprising because Tower is rather "Liberal" in appearance (lots of tats, piercings, and hair dye). Gun rags are a bit tougher in grocery stores, but that's always been the case (much less shelf space for mags).

Chris

jsalcedo
May 13, 2003, 04:00 PM
As I stated in an earlier thread I was able to pick up 12 years of guns and ammo 74 through 86.

Now that I've finally gotten a chance to read some of them I find myself reading the same articles that I just read in my current subscription. Some of the names have changed but other than new gun reviews its all rehash.

This forum is proof that gun mags could do a lot more to keep them interesting and relevant.

I like American Handgunner and American Rifleman and even those are a little fluffy.

BevrFevr
May 13, 2003, 05:14 PM
Why is Kmart out of business and WalMart making tons of money?

Was it our boycot? I doubt it although I would like to think so.

It's all about the database! Kmart had a crappy one and Walmarts is excellent. Ever notice how WalMart's in different areas of the country have different stuff in em. It's cause the database tells em that they don't sell too many snow boots in Florida so they stop sending em. Kmart would send snow boots to Fl. and lose money by the truckload doing it.

WalMart, B&N, Borders, etc. Track everthing they sell and everthing they don't sell. They make money by not stocking the things that don't sell and stocking the things that do. That is more the reason why there are no gun mags in some stores and plenty in others.

It's not a liberal agenda (most of the time).

-bevr

Slabside
May 13, 2003, 05:30 PM
They make money by not stocking the things that don't sell and stocking the things that do. That is more the reason why there are no gun mags in some stores and plenty in others

Not necessarily. At least not in my case. The primary location that I used to buy gun rags had the best selection in town. I had to really scramble over there on deliverly day to get a copy because they would be sold so fast. Then, all of the sudden, there weren't any copies of any gun rag at all...period. And, it has stayed that way ever since. I noticed that all magazines related to hunting and fishing were also removed.

That my friend is not due to lack in sales. Common sense tells me otherwise.

Regards,
Slabside

stevelyn
May 13, 2003, 07:33 PM
The best thing to do is get a subscription to your favorites, cutting out the retail stores' profits and saving yourself some cash for an extra box or two of ammo.:neener:

Slabside
May 13, 2003, 10:49 PM
stevelyn,

You reckon? ;)

IRONFIST
May 14, 2003, 05:06 AM
Last year I encountered kinda the same magazine problem, but at my local(Sandy, OR) library. The library had carried "Guns 'n Ammo" for years, and I had checked out the magazine 6 or more times per year. Then when I looked for it one day it was gone. I didnt pay much attention, I figured that the current months issue hadnt been returned by someone. That would make sense because every issue was in constant use and it seemed like it was always checked out. Other business intrudes and flash forward a couple months. I went back to the library looking for the latest issue and not only are the old, back issues gone but there is no new one on the rack. I asked the librarian what had happened to their subscription and she pinched her face a bit. She said that the head of the library and the staff had decided that it wasnt "popular" enough to renew and they had a limited magazine budget. I went back to the extensive magazine section and looked thru the selection. "Indigenous Northwest nocturnal birdlife spotting & review" or some such type of magazine was on the shelves, along with every kind of woman-centered periodical, but nothing close to being gun-related. I picked one obscure mag up and saw when it had last been checked out.... Only one time that year and the year was almost over! I took this magazine, "Inflated Tire Monthly" or something like it and went back up to the library desk. I pointed out that there was a lot of magazines like this one that no one ever checked out, but they let a popular gun magazine fade away. Then the excuse was that "Guns 'n Ammo" wasnt wasnt able to withstand multiple checkouts and the covers came off too easily. Okay... I went back to the rack and got a tattered, well-thumbed copy of "Rosie O' Donnells guide to industrial feminine hygiene" and saw that the library had had to tape the cover together to get it back into circulation. I brought the magazine back up to the librarian and pointed out the fallacy of her position. Her face became red and she called the head of the library out to talk to me. I explained my position politely, and she said that it would be studied. I didnt hear anthing about it for 2 or 3 months until I asked, yet again, if they were going to bring the gun mag back. I was told that their decision was final and they really didnt consider it an issue. End of discussion. Its lovely how the liberals make decisions "For our own good" everyday, isnt it? BTW, I would appreciate it if no one here contacted or wrote my library about this, I have other ways to fight the good fight without alienating them or having them become defensive.


Michael in Sandy, OR

P95Carry
May 14, 2003, 11:14 AM
Its lovely how the liberals make decisions "For our own good" everyday, isnt it? That Ironfist is exactly at the core of many problems these days. ....... all this ''for the kids'', ''for your own safety'' ... etc ....... it is sickening.

No longer it seems are we able to make our own decisions and have control over our own lives and destinies. No - some dipsh*t somewhere has to be making changes because ''it seems so much better''.

Better? For whom? Them I guess and to hell with the majority. The West is becoming ''Nanny state'' every which way you look ....... mustn't offend anyone must we?:rolleyes: :banghead:

Murkes
May 14, 2003, 03:42 PM
I live in Santa Cruz CA area. Borders here carries various gun mags and even have a decent firearms/hunting section.

However, in the political science section they will always display Chomsky. I usually move the couple of display copies of Chomsky to the SciFi/Fantasy section. Childish I know.

Cheers,

Black_Talon
May 14, 2003, 10:31 PM
I don't suppose that it will be much of a suprise to everybody but here in Sunny SoKal most of the drugstores/grocery stores/min-marts either don't carry any gun rags or maybe just G & A.

Hell, you can't hardly buy any guns here, who needs gun rags?

general
May 15, 2003, 02:42 PM
On a related note, I was at the local public library tonight. Any books on firearms must be special ordered by the head librarian from the main library.
This is VERY disturbing.:confused: :what:
I'm going to have to go check my library out... so to speak.
This could be something.

geekWithA.45
May 15, 2003, 02:53 PM
You can still find a few in some places, but as a general rule, in non book shops, forget it.

PromptCritical
May 15, 2003, 10:06 PM
Here's one: I am more likely to go into 7-11 here in San Diego and find a copy of "High Times" than "Guns and Ammo." How messed up is that? Can't find mags devoted to exercising a constitutional right, but theres always one about growing and using an illegal substance.

Giant
May 16, 2003, 05:01 AM
Listen up folks!

If your local library does not have Guns and Ammo, or whatever your favorite gun rag might be, do your civic duty and become a patron of the library and purchase a subscription for them. My reward for doing so would be the happy look upon the face of the head librarian...

Also, complain to the the library commission, or the friends of the library group about all the far left magizines subscribed to by the library, how no one reads them on a regular basis, thus a bunch of money could be saved by canceling those subscriptions.

Giant

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