3-gun "Jogging Stroller" Setup


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TarpleyG
September 18, 2006, 05:57 PM
Anyone have any input on using/configuring a 3-wheel jogging stroller for 3-gun matches? A few guys have them at the club I shoot at but I haven't had a chance to really ask anyone about them.

-Preference on a brand/model
-What kind of ATV handlebar brackets work best
-I've seen some models with an underneath storage compartment that looks like I'd rather have
-How much to pay for a stroller and where to get a used one
-Etc, etc, etc....

Greg

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hso
September 18, 2006, 06:02 PM
Good Will, Salvation Army, Blind Thrift, second hand shops, yard sales, flea markets,...

Zundfolge
September 18, 2006, 06:18 PM
I guess that would be better than a wheelbarrow. ;)

TarpleyG
September 18, 2006, 08:43 PM
Zundfolge,

Yur funny!!!

Greg

Justin
September 18, 2006, 09:44 PM
Drop a message to Correia. He shoots 3-gun, and likely knows what you're talking about. I've seen setups like these, but haven't the faintest idea what they cost or where they can be found.

BozemanMT
September 18, 2006, 10:25 PM
Shotgunners have a lot of them that can be easily modded.
I think we got ours from rugged gear. (it's shotgun centric, but it works for 3gun)
they really are great, you'll never go back.

TarpleyG
September 18, 2006, 10:25 PM
http://www.geocities.com/utahmga/cart.html

This guy has pretty much what I want...just need some more input so I only have to do this once.

I'll check with Correia too...

Greg

TarpleyG
September 19, 2006, 09:31 AM
Thanks mods for moving this here!!! Now no one will see it and I'll not get the input I am looking for.

Greg

Correia
September 19, 2006, 11:25 AM
Tarpley, this is the place that you want it. The posters in comp shooting are pretty hard core.

I don't use one of these, so don't know anything about them. I carry my crap. :p

You may also want to check the forums at brianenos.com That is probably the 3gun clearing house of all info.

Whole Hog
September 19, 2006, 11:55 AM
I'm not a 3 gun shooter, but the cart you posted a link to looks very much like the Rugged Gear cart I use for sporting clays.

http://ruggedgear.com/about.html

Scott

akanotken
September 19, 2006, 08:08 PM
and you'll also see wagons set up to carry gear (that's what I use, I have room for it, it doubles as a .... wagon, and you can put a bunch of stuff in it.

Folks have found a way to mount umbrella's, coolers, etc.

Saw someone with a mover's handcart too. Had welded diamond plate where he wanted it. Stick ~1000 rounds towards the bottom of the load and it'll stand up in the heaviest of breezes.


But there's no denying the superiority of a tactical wheelbarow ...

Justin
September 20, 2006, 01:50 PM
Thanks mods for moving this here!!! Now no one will see it and I'll not get the input I am looking for.


So you're telling me that you were looking for smarmy comments from duffers not involved with your sport in the General Discussion forum?

:confused:
:p

TarpleyG
September 20, 2006, 01:56 PM
^^^

Pretty much, yeah...

Anyway, I think I got some input here.

Greg

Brian Williams
September 20, 2006, 02:34 PM
I saw on the LeverGuns forum, some guy modified an old hand drawn golfbag cart for SASS... Could work

Justin
September 20, 2006, 05:19 PM
Tarpley, in all seriousness, I moved the thread here because even though the volume of responses you'll get will be fewer, the amount of useful information will most likely be much higher. If THR ceases to be a useful resource then it no longer has a reason to exist.

TarpleyG
September 20, 2006, 05:22 PM
Understood...my first post was half tongue-in-cheek anyway.

Greg

roo_ster
September 25, 2006, 03:13 PM
My gun-stuff cart looks like the following:
http://www.cantontradedays.com/btt/checked%20buggygif.gif
I discard the inner bag. Long guns are in soft aces & bungeed along near the handle. Ammo is in the bottom. It folds into a much slimmer package. I paid $35 new.

We have two of these (http://www.toysrus.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2329721&cp=2255983.2256189.2256202&view=all&parentPage=family) we bought at gragge sales, $20 each.
http://trus.imageg.net/graphics/product_images/pTRU1-2900046dt.jpg
One has an undersling storage area, the other doesn't.

This brand isn't as super-tough as others, but it went up many trails in Big Bend Nat'l Park with my 6MO boy strapped in and lots of gear underneath.

I will likely keep one or both & customize them as gun carts after the kids outgrow them.

They retail for ~$100.

shooterer
June 25, 2010, 09:24 AM
Z,
Is this what you mean?
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a168/shooterer/Rangecart.jpg

jmorris
June 25, 2010, 09:56 AM
Diarmuid, no need to wake a 4 year old thread to sell baby jogging strollers now that you have joined you can sell stuff in the proper classified but welcome just the same.


When I set out to build one a few years ago I bid on a few at Ebay and won two for a total investment of $35 (a single new one was well over $100). I sold one to a fellow 3-gunner and made some brackets to hold ATV gun racks.

http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o213/jmorrismetal/3g/3gc.jpg
http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o213/jmorrismetal/3g/3gcm.jpg


The ATV mounts cost more than the stroller but you can use them for more than just the 3-gun cart.

http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o213/jmorrismetal/3g/jeepm.jpg
http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o213/jmorrismetal/3g/jeepm1.jpg

shooterer
June 25, 2010, 11:17 AM
They sell this at Cabela's
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a168/shooterer/s7_229135_imageset_01.jpg

Ruckus Ralph
June 25, 2010, 11:47 AM
http://www.ruggedgear.com/index.cfm/page/ptype=product/product_id=219/category_id=112/home_id=-1/mode=prod/prd219.htm

This is the cart that I use and it works WONDERFUL..

Rail Driver
June 25, 2010, 11:55 AM
You guys and your "tactical wheelbarrows" crack me up... What about sling the rifle on the right shoulder, the shotgun on the left, the pistol in a holster, and carry your ammo... That's how we always did it at Ft. Campbell... Besides, carrying your stuff keeps you physically fit, and when you're physically fit you will shoot better.

jmorris
June 25, 2010, 01:25 PM
Besides, carrying your stuff keeps you physically fit, and when you're physically fit you will shoot better.

I agree that you do many things in life better the more physically fit you are. However, If unnecessary labor is a key to a good performance Tiger Woods would carry his own clubs.

Rail Driver
June 25, 2010, 01:57 PM
I don't even want to get on the topic of Tigers Wood. He was playing more than golf, and that's talent most of us could never aspire to ;)

Really though, I do see the point, I wouldn't want to lug around multiple long arms, pistols, ammo and the rest all day for several different matches, so I'd likely want something similar. If I'm just there for one or two 3 gun matches though, I likely have just a small amount of equipment and would find it easier to simply carry it.

Justin
June 25, 2010, 01:59 PM
Wow. Talk about an old thread. I've come a long way it would seem.


You guys and your "tactical wheelbarrows" crack me up... What about sling the rifle on the right shoulder, the shotgun on the left, the pistol in a holster, and carry your ammo... That's how we always did it at Ft. Campbell...

Shooting 3gun involves carrying a lot of gear, including stuff beyond just your rifle, pistol, shotgun and a box or two of ammo.
In addition to all the regular stuff there's a lot of ancillary gear that is either mandatory, or helps to make the match a better experience. You know, stuff like eye and ear protection, a pile of magazines, magazine carriers, shotgun shell carriers, score sheets, spare belt, spare gun parts, sun block, water, snacks, spare shot timer, pens, etc. While a lot of it is little stuff, it pays to have an easy way to organize it all.

Also, some matches may or may not have a rule requiring that long guns must be cased or otherwise safely carried when brought to the line. Just slinging a rifle or shotgun over your shoulder can present safety issues.

FWIW, I'm not a huge fan of the three-wheeled carts. I've tried a number of solutions for carrying gear, including soft-sided cases that can be slung, hard-sided cases, and a backpack made for toting firearms. The last solution seems to be the most convenient and least dorky, and depending on the match, I'll use my Eberlestock Gunslinger (http://www.eberlestock.com/Gunslinger%20M%20Series.htm) pack. My only gripe about the pack is that Eberlestock doesn't make a side-mounted shotgun scabbard that's long enough for my shotgun.


Besides, carrying your stuff keeps you physically fit, and when you're physically fit you will shoot better.

Carrying gear from a car to a shooting position isn't going to keep you in shape.

That's why I go to Crossfit.

Rail Driver
June 25, 2010, 02:06 PM
Shooting 3gun involves carrying a lot of gear, including stuff beyond just your rifle, pistol, shotgun and a box or two of ammo, to include all the regular stuff- eye and ear protection, a pile of magazines, magazine carriers, shotgun shell carriers, score sheets, sun block, water, ...

If I couldn't carry all of that plus a tent, sleeping pad, E-tool, 2 days worth of meals, loaded individual first aid kit, while wearing body armor goggles and a kevlar helmet then I would have made a poor soldier... They don't issue us carts my friend.

Also, some matches may or may not have a rule requiring that long guns must be cased or otherwise safely carried when brought to the line.

I can see how that could cause some issues at times.

Carrying gear from a car to a shooting position isn't going to keep you in shape.

That's why I go to Crossfit.

Of course it won't if that's the only exercise you get, however it can only help add to a solid base of physical fitness. It certainly won't hurt anything other than maybe your reputation on the 3gun range when everyone else with caddys and carts sees you humping your gear in like you're going to war :P

Justin
June 25, 2010, 02:19 PM
If I couldn't carry all of that plus a tent, sleeping pad, E-tool, 2 days worth of meals, loaded individual first aid kit, while wearing body armor goggles and a kevlar helmet then I would have made a poor soldier... They don't issue us carts my friend.

Like I said, the stuff isn't heavy, but it does require being organized. Some people find that the three-wheeled carts work well for this. Some people carry their guns in cases slung over their shoulder and throw the rest of the stuff in a standard range bag.

YMMV.


Of course it won't if that's the only exercise you get, however it can only help add to a solid base of physical fitness. It certainly won't hurt anything other than maybe your reputation on the 3gun range when everyone else with caddys and carts sees you humping your gear in like you're going to war :P

You should go shoot Iron Man in the Trooper Division. (http://www.mgmtargets.com/ironman/trooper_rules.php) :)

Zak Smith
June 25, 2010, 03:23 PM
I've shot 3Gun since '03 or so and have been match director for various 3Gun, MG, and LR matches since 2006. I don't care what systems people use to carry all their gear; however, there are no "allowances" for safety infractions.

At matches where "strollers", carts, and wagons are prevalent, there are more muzzle infractions (unsafe muzzle direction) than elsewhere and those infractions are almost categorically committed by the stroller/cart/wagon crowd.

http://demigodllc.com/photo/FB3G-2008/smaller/D463_0121_img.jpg (http://demigodllc.com/photo/FB3G-2008/?small=D463_0121_img.jpg)
http://demigodllc.com/photo/FB3G-2008/smaller/D463_0127_img.jpg (http://demigodllc.com/photo/FB3G-2008/?small=D463_0127_img.jpg)
http://demigodllc.com/photo/FB3G-2008/smaller/D463_0129_img.jpg (http://demigodllc.com/photo/FB3G-2008/?small=D463_0129_img.jpg)
http://demigodllc.com/photo/FB3G-2008/smaller/G100_0558_img.jpg (http://demigodllc.com/photo/FB3G-2008/?small=G100_0558_img.jpg)

Carts do not necessitate poor gun handling - it just happens to turn out that way. For this reason, I am against their use. For a typical rifle or 2 gun stage (rifle/pistol), I'll just throw everything I need in the pockets or main compartment of my AR case (with my rifle in it). If I need shotgun, I'll grab that case too. There's no need to haul more junk from your vehicle than you need to shoot the stage anyway.


And they tend to suck pretty bad when it's muddy. Here's some abandoned (or in bad shape) carts at Tiger Valley
http://demigodllc.com/photo/TV3G-2004/smaller/145_4581_img.jpg (http://demigodllc.com/photo/TV3G-2004/?small=145_4581_img.jpg)
http://demigodllc.com/photo/TV3G-2004/smaller/145_4579_img.jpg (http://demigodllc.com/photo/TV3G-2004/?small=145_4579_img.jpg)
http://demigodllc.com/photo/TV3G-2004/smaller/145_4576_img.jpg (http://demigodllc.com/photo/TV3G-2004/?small=145_4576_img.jpg)

Justin
June 26, 2010, 08:09 PM
I attended a local 3gun match today and opted to use my Eberlestock pack. It worked very well, even with the shotgun scabbard being shorter than I would prefer.

esheato
June 26, 2010, 09:42 PM
I have a jogging stroller that I converted into a shooting cart. I typically only use it for sporting clays though. Carrying two or three o/u and a couple hundred rounds of 12 ga starts to suck about station 4. ;)

Ed

Grey Morel
July 5, 2010, 11:45 AM
How many hard working gun bearers have you shmucks put out of a job by purchasing these "gun carts" and sending your money over to red China?


(Sarcasm Purple)

lonegunman
July 5, 2010, 06:02 PM
Now that's a man's sport, one where you use a stroller and shoot. I spent many a decade in the military and remember the high speed operators always had a stroller full of guns in every fight.

Oh, Wal-Mart sell an umbrella that clamps to the handle. They sell them for folding chairs usually. Since tacticool shooting is going the way of SASS, start relaxing. If you are gonna stroll you might as well have comfort too.








Yes, I'm teasing a bit. As I get older I'm starting to wish for something to haul my gear in as well.

oneounceload
July 5, 2010, 06:19 PM
Yep Rugged Gear has been making them for years - us sporting clay shooters have been using these in lieu of renting a golf cart

Justin
July 5, 2010, 06:46 PM
Now that's a man's sport, one where you use a stroller and shoot. I spent many a decade in the military and remember the high speed operators always hd a stroller full of guns in every fight.

Oh, Wal-Mart sell an umbrella that clamps to the handle. They sell them for folding chairs usually. Since tacticool shooting is going the way of SASS, start relaxing. If you are gonna stroll you might as well have comfort too.

That's pretty funny coming from a Bullseye shooter. :p

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