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pale horse
May 13, 2003, 07:43 PM
I put a down payment on a ruger p90 blued model this sunday. But I was torn between it and a whitness .45. Could you ladies and gents give me the ups and downs of each.

The use of the pistol is going to be ccw, load experimentation, range shooting, and general banging around no bs gun. The pistol needs to be accurate, reliable, able to shoot various reloads, good finish, easy to clear in case of failures, and easy to get parts for.

I have a 1911 and like them, but I was looking for something else to try for awhile.

Thanks.

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michiganfan
May 13, 2003, 07:54 PM
Never had a Ruger 45 but I have a full sizwe Witness P 45 and I love it. About six hubdred riunds and no problems. The gun is more accurate than I am.

pale horse
May 13, 2003, 07:55 PM
In looking at it it looked like it would be more difficult to rack the slide. What has been your experience with it?

Handy
May 13, 2003, 07:59 PM
Done:

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=20798&perpage=25&highlight=witness&pagenumber=1


Funny how these things always come on each other's heels. Group unconscious?

pale horse
May 13, 2003, 08:05 PM
Thanks Handy, but I already looked at the archive of post on the p90. I did not get all of the questions answered. Thats why I reposted the question.

michiganfan
May 13, 2003, 09:07 PM
I have never racked a Ruger but I have nine semis and the Witness is no harder than any of the others and easier than some of them. Find it to be smooth and fluid.

mini14jac
May 14, 2003, 09:52 AM
I found the P90 grip to be to "blocky", but I'm beginning to think I could train myself to like a 2x4 if I tried.
I think the only thing more rugged than a P90 might be a crowbar.
I had a P97 for a while, and really liked it, but the recoil was a little much for it's size.

The P90 is not a small gun, but many report using it for CCW.
I suspect the recoil would be more manageable also.
Everyone recommends buying the Hogue grip with the the finger grooves.

My research also has found newer guns to be accurate with good triggers.
I'm seriously considering one myself.

- If you buy one in the next couple of months, I think you get a $40 rebate. -
That would figure in my calculation.

iamkris
May 14, 2003, 10:28 AM
I have a Witness 45 TAC-II (all steel, full size frame, compact slide, ported, Wonder finish). Had a bad experience with my first Witness (FTE / FTF) that was a compact polymer model.

This pistol, however, is really working out to be great. 600 rounds through it. Very controllable, trigger getting better and better. POI = POA. Sights are easy to pick up. Controls are right where they need to be. Shot it in the first 3 gun match of the year and it did great. Operator worked OK too.

I thought the CZ style frame over slide rail system would be hard to rack as well but did not find that to be true, even under the pressure of the match.

I'm very happy. The Ruger is supposed to be good too. I like the looks of the CZ design better than the Ruger.

Rob96
May 14, 2003, 10:52 AM
The Ruger P-90 is one of the best 45's out there. Durable, accurate and reliable, everything you want a sidearm to be. And yes, I do use mine for concealed carry, no harder than with a 1911. With EAA's spotty customer service and quality, I would stay away from it.

duckfoot
May 14, 2003, 01:21 PM
Hunting around I found.
1# CZ 97B 45ACP 4.8" BLACK $526.72
2# RUG P90 45ACP 4.5" BL $406.66
3# EAA WIT 45ACP 4.5" STL WF $361.49
I'm a big believer in you get what you pay for but, one is better than none.

foghornl
May 14, 2003, 01:28 PM
Have the KP-90 Ruger, the SS version. $440 in my local gunshop right now. 2500 rounds fired with only 2 FTF, both from the same box of UMC ammo. Only extra was the less than $20 Hogue finger groove grip. It is a bit bulky when compared to my Springfield Champion 1911-A1, but still good for CCW with the right holster and clothing.

Have not even seen the CZ's or the EAA's mentioned by duckfoot.

pale horse
May 14, 2003, 01:29 PM
Thank you all. How do the 2 I mentioned hold up with reloads?

duckfoot
May 14, 2003, 02:11 PM
the p90 i have eats reloaded mil-spec ball all day long but no JHP reloads yet.

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