Carbon 15 by bushie!


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benewton
May 13, 2003, 08:05 PM
I've always thought that the M16/AR was well overweight, and watched the Carbon 15 with interest, followed by dismay.

But, with Bushmaster in the mix, what do you people think?

Rifle comments only, since I think the "pistol" version is a joke: 'course, I forgot to buy one of the original Bushmasters, which has gotta be a mistake of the highest order!

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BusMaster007
May 13, 2003, 09:56 PM
The pistol is a joke? C'mon! :D
Can you imagine how much fun THAT would be?!
Well, I can. :cool:

I also liked the mention of a ".22" forthcoming.
That's exciting.
Maybe the pistol can be made into a .22.

I'm glad to see Bushmaster getting this system under their control.
It should be good for 'the economy'... ;)

I think a 'varmint pistol' in a holster would lend new meaning to 'walkin' & stalkin'. :D

dude
May 13, 2003, 10:00 PM
having happily sold off a Carbon 15 a while back I can say that Bushmaster cound make a good weapon out of it if they improved on.........well, everything.

444
May 13, 2003, 10:22 PM
That looks very cool to me. I hope they work, I may have to eventually buy one. As if I don't own enough AR15s as it is.

And yes, I could see myself with the pistol. Yet another toy to play with that has no practical use that I can immediately think of.

AR-10
May 13, 2003, 10:55 PM
Don't like it.
Don't like it one bit.
Ain't ever gonna like it.
Never.

Fortunately they have a dozen or so other models to occupy my wish list.

benewton
May 14, 2003, 08:20 AM
OK, I take back the "joke" comment, although I'd never consider buying one...

Looks like an interesting weapon: I'll have to wait and see how the "new" one works out, not to mention the pricing.

Master Blaster
May 14, 2003, 10:58 AM
Lowered velocity lots of flash and blast in a huge 4lb pistol???

Whats to like???:rolleyes:

Want a powerful pistol get a 44 mag redhawk.

Onslaught
May 14, 2003, 11:13 AM
This is the first I've heard of it, and I'm already excited!

IF Bushmaster alters them to take mil-spec parts (unlike the Professional Ordnance carbon 15) then I'm already thinking 4.5# 9mm AR :)

As for the pistol... I could see it being fun to have... Why not? I hate revolvers, so if I want a more powerful pistol.... ;)

Skunkabilly
May 14, 2003, 01:32 PM
Huh? Where?

Steve Smith
May 14, 2003, 01:45 PM
Skunk, all you have to do is go to www.bushmaster.com


Its as big as cabbage.

(Hmm, still a little Southerner in me)

Sven
May 14, 2003, 02:09 PM
Hey, Steve.

Can I store mine in your safe in CO? Laughing, and crying, behind the iron curtain.

-s

Skunkabilly
May 14, 2003, 04:27 PM
Steve, I went there earlier and dind't find anything...and you know my eyes lock onto anything that starts with 'carbon'.... :confused:

Steve Smith
May 14, 2003, 04:30 PM
Absolutely amazing. It was JUST THERE. Had pics of Pro Ord guns and talked about how they just bought Pro Ord.

Skunkabilly
May 14, 2003, 04:35 PM
Maybe the web guy put it up a little hasty and wanted to hold back so someone in marketing could do a formal press release? :confused:

Just speculating.

Maybe the page is there but they took the link down do you have a direct link?

David Park
May 14, 2003, 05:05 PM
Look in the top right corner of the page, and you'll see a link to this:
http://www.bushmaster.com/westernbfi.asp

Correia
May 14, 2003, 05:26 PM
Now if they really wanted to make me happy they would redesign their bullpup, work out all of the kinks and bugs that it has had for years, and make in a carbon fiber shell instead of sheet metal. That would rock.

Sven my friend. You need to move. And that is coming from an ex-Californian. (Merced High class of '93, Go BEARS!) :)

Skunkabilly
May 14, 2003, 05:48 PM
I wonder if becuase it's a .22, I can get one in Cali.

Can this Carbon 15 take AR-15 furniture? I wonder how it would look with the ACE (?) skeletonized stock.

Onslaught
May 14, 2003, 06:06 PM
Can this Carbon 15 take AR-15 furniture? I wonder how it would look with the ACE (?) skeletonized stock.
I don't know about stocks specifically, but the original Carbon 15 didn't take much of anything that wasn't made by Professional Ordnance. Barrels, handguards, and free float tubes didn't interchange. I doubt the stocks would either, as they had a "quick release" stock that locked to the lower with a lever/catch thing.

That's what I hope Bushmaster changes about them... ACE Boom Stocks and a Bushmaster Superlight barrel... :) If they make 'em Mil-Spec (minus the material), I WILL build a 9mm AR with one.

benewton
May 14, 2003, 06:52 PM
Correia: you have a great point, and I'm following you. Outside of the idea of having my handloads go off just under my right eye, and the fact that the bullpup was a pig in terms of weight, I'd forgotten that that one was on my "want" list.

Still can't see the point of the "pistol", but to each...

Correia
May 14, 2003, 07:31 PM
Ben, I'm with you. If they make it out of CF they can mold a plate of some kind over the action. If it blows up then the shooter should be pefectly safe. That is what SAR is doing with their new 21. I just think that the Bushy BP has a lot of potential should they ever get all the kinks worked out and market it a little.

dude
May 15, 2003, 05:10 AM
...........there is NO carbon fiber in the Carbon 15 line of firearms, it was all marketing

Skunkabilly
May 15, 2003, 12:10 PM
These exciting firearms feature stainless steel barrels, molded carbon fiber Upper and Lower Receivers (and other components,) and modular accessories to enhance their versatility.

:confused: :(

dude
May 15, 2003, 01:21 PM
if you want it to be carbon fiber, go ahead


..............but I actually owned one of the POS-es and also work with carbon fiber aircraft & bike components. What P.O. (intrestingly close to POS) calls 'molded' carbon fiber is just some sort of plastic that in no way has any of the strength/lightweight benifits of carbon fiber construction. Just the term 'molded' gives away the fact that there is no 'fiber' of grain. It was just a clever marketing tool that sold alot of rifles. Too bad they did not put more time into design over materials.

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