There Can Be Only One


September 27, 2006, 09:25 AM
Just for fun:

Okay, the S has HTF and you can only grab one .45ACP handgun (sorry 9mm fans, just humor me), but all are available...

Which one and why?

Remember, only ONE and this may be the last handgun can ever get...


Kimber Gold Match I 1911 .45ACP

Springfield Champion 1911 .45ACP

Springfield XD Tactical .45ACP

Sig P220R DAK .45ACP

Ruger P345 .45ACP

Ruger P90 .45ACP

Glock 21 .45ACP

Glock 30 .45ACP

I know there are plenty of other quality firearms out there and I'm sorry if yours isnt on the list. Just for fun and thanks for the input!


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Zach S
September 27, 2006, 09:32 AM
Kimber Gold Match I I guess. Thats the closest thing to what I would actually grap (a 5" Kimber Classic Stainless I).

Cousin Mike
September 27, 2006, 09:42 AM
I took the only one I own as of yet - the Sig P220.. even though you had to ruin it all with the -R model w/a DAK trigger :neener: Why? Reliability, accuracy, familiarity, and easy maintenance...

September 27, 2006, 10:52 AM
In a SHTF situation I have to go with capacity and reliability. It would be something that I KNOW won't fail me. I'd grab the XD.

September 27, 2006, 11:08 AM
Ruger P90. It will never malfunction. It ain't a 1911, but I know it is super tough.

September 27, 2006, 11:10 AM
It could be the blush of a new firearm relationship, but I'd grab the XD. My Nite Tac will be so jealous.

September 27, 2006, 11:18 AM
Without question - I'd reach past the Springers and Kimbers and Paras and grab one of the CZ97Bs.

the pistolero
September 27, 2006, 11:23 AM
I love my 1911s dearly, but here I have to go with what I know will work for me -- the Ruger P90. I've put more rounds through that pistol than any of my other .45s (more due to how long I've had it than any kind of prejudice), and I have no doubt in its abilities...

September 27, 2006, 11:36 AM
One of those guns for SHTF and it has to last me a lifetime as my only gun?

As much as I like XD's and as much as I admire Sig's, I voted USP 45. If it was the Sig P220 SAO, I might have had a different vote. :scrutiny:

Ala Dan
September 27, 2006, 11:46 AM
Springfield XD Tactical :uhoh: :D

R.H. Lee
September 27, 2006, 11:50 AM
I voted for the Glock 21 because that is what I have. The HK or the Kimber (or any of the others for that matter) may be just as reliable. However, I'm suspicious of MIM parts (especially extractors) on current production guns.

I also have an older Series 70 Colt that is just as reliable as the G21.

September 27, 2006, 11:53 AM
I voted P90 because it will always work, and can be used as short club if needed. Very simple, very reliable, quite accurate..... I would trust it.

September 27, 2006, 11:54 AM
Despite being a dyed in the wool 1911 fan, in an emergency situation, where I might not be able to give the handgun the normal attention/TLC it normally gets, I'd go with the USP45, followed closely by the GLock 30.

The USP eats everything you feed it without complaint, I'm fond and familiar with its manual of arms, and its amazingly rugged.

I was actually JUST drooling over an HK USP45CT at Dury's yesterday.


September 27, 2006, 12:13 PM
GLOCK 30, cause when I run out of ammo, it will feed rocks.

September 27, 2006, 01:26 PM
Springfield XD Tactical. You gotta love 14 rounds of .45ACP in an ergonomic package. Great reliability, easy field stripping, good gun.
Then again, if S-REALLY-H-T-F then I would grab a Glock or 1911 so I could easily get replacement parts.~Nathan

September 27, 2006, 01:36 PM
I voted for the Kimber, because I want a 1911, for my next purchase. I own the Ruger P345, and its a fine weapon, and if I could vote for another, it would be the XD45:)

September 27, 2006, 01:38 PM
I voted for my Glock 21 over my glock 30. Even though i carry the 30. When SHTF I want something with a little more size and capacity.

I've had horrible luck with Kimber (won't own another EVER, even if it were free), a lot of frustration with Springfield (in all fairness, it was a used gun), a bad sig 220 (underbored barrel that squibbed with factory FMJ), the glock is the only gun manufacturer besides S&W & Ruger that hasn't given me any problems ever.

Most importantly though, i shoot pretty well with the 21 :)

September 27, 2006, 01:53 PM
voted for the HK. would have voted for the sig if it had not been dak.

September 27, 2006, 02:40 PM
I'll take a Glock.

I read through that web page / forum thread where the guy took his Glock 21 and froze it, filled it with sand, ran it over with his truck, threw it out of an airplane, &c... I think I can count on it to go bang when it has to.

September 27, 2006, 02:56 PM
G21 for reliability and capacity. The p220 with the DAK trigger has not been out in the public long enough for me to trust it completely, although I suspect it will be fine.

September 27, 2006, 03:01 PM
Enough said. I can't miss with this handgun at 50 ft. 14 rounds of .45 acp makes a big statement.


September 27, 2006, 03:22 PM
I went with the springfield champ.
First STAINLESS. in other rust...EVER. and because this will be the last gun i ever own, who knows what situation ill be in for the next 40 years of my life.
Second, 1911? proven time and time again...
Third. SA makes a good gun, my girlfriend has one, and i wish it was mine!

note: why would anybody pick a 500$ gun over a 800$ gun? dont you GENERALLY get what you pay for?

September 27, 2006, 03:26 PM
First STAINLESS. in other rust...EVER.

Just a word of caution: stainless steel isn't.
Stainless is rust-resistant, especially in a dry climate, but ALL ferrous metals (ie all steels) can and will rust given circumstances.

Stainless is nice, and easy to care for, but it most definitely can rust.


September 27, 2006, 03:55 PM
I voted for the Glock 21 - mainly because it has 13+1 capacity, and I have about 20 normal capacity magazines for it.

I also like the H&K USP45, and the Springfield Armory TRP Operator 1911. All three are so good that it would be a tough choice.

September 27, 2006, 04:07 PM
I went with the H&K USP, because I've had one, and it was absolutely reliable. I purchased it used from a police officer, and it certainly had the marks of use and abuse, so I'm confident that it's a durable piece. Magazine capacity is a bonus, too.

Of course, I've got a Springfield XD45 on order, so my choice might change in a year or so. I've heard good things about it, and I hope it lives up to its reputation.

September 27, 2006, 04:09 PM
OK I honestly picked the XD but only because if SHTF I would go for capacity reasons. I do believe it holds the most so thats the only reason. Now if I went to a show or store and a dealer said "Hello sir you are our lucky 100th customer...please select one of these fine tools for free!" I would pick the Sig P220R DAK.:D

September 27, 2006, 04:10 PM
I voted for the Glock 21. Picked a 500 dollar gun over an 800 dollar gun for the same reason I dont try to haul hay to my horses in a ferrari. My Dodge 3/4 ton pickup works as it is intended to work, day in day out just like a Glock. Do I like the Glock best? No, I actually prefer a Witness 10mm but it wasn't on the list and I probably wouldn't choose it in a SHTF pistol that I would have to live with and depend on for who knows how long.

September 27, 2006, 04:47 PM
Glock 30 because I've had two of them, and just because they really don't fit my hand, I know the gun, what it can/will do, and know the manual of arms backwards and forwards!!!

September 27, 2006, 05:34 PM
You forgot to list the S&W 4506.

September 27, 2006, 05:37 PM
Springer Champion , why , because it is a 1911 and 1) I shoot them better than all other autoloaders and 2) because if it broke , I bet I could find parts far easier than anything else AND I have more expierence at taking it apart without any kind of directions 3) it is a small enough to be concealed easily , 4) I know with a quick squirt of gunscrubber or perhaps just breakfree it will keep on running .

In a SHTF It is my opinion that you have to take a parts breakage into consideration , how many of you folks can replace O say the extractor in your Rugers or XD's ? Can find a recoil or sear spring in just about any little out of the way gunsmiths shop ?

September 27, 2006, 05:48 PM
In 5 years when the XD45 has a greater following and a mass of aftermarket parts, that would be my choice. As it is, I am strongly considering selling my G21 to get an XD45.

But I voted G21 for today. I have it, I know it, and I have shot as much as 500 rounds without a single failure in a single session. It strips quickly and cleans easily. It shoots EVERYTHING, and has very high capacity. I think the only higher capacity .45acp out there is the Paraordnance doublestack, which holds 14+1 IIRC. One round more than the G21.

larry starling
September 27, 2006, 08:09 PM
None of the above........:barf:

September 27, 2006, 08:21 PM
USP. Period.

September 27, 2006, 08:39 PM
I voted USP 45. It's my number 2 most shot pistol and most reliable and accurate.

September 27, 2006, 08:43 PM
HK USP 45.Its the only one I actually own from your list.:cool:

September 27, 2006, 09:05 PM
xd .45 tatical for me!

and look at that the xd is in the lead!:)

September 27, 2006, 10:32 PM
Glock 30. Great firepower in a concealable package. I would have opted for the 21, but it isn't as concealable. If I am going to be stuck with a pistol, I am going to take advantage of its concealability.

September 27, 2006, 11:28 PM
Have to go with the Champ. Very easy to conceal. Accurate, dependable, and it's a 1911 which means there will always be parts for it. Maybe if standard P220 was on the list, my vote would be different. The P90 is a great second choice though. Still kick myself for trading mine....although I did get a sweet NIB XD-9 Bi-Tone for it.

September 27, 2006, 11:45 PM
I love my XD-45 and would be totally comfortable with it in a bad situation.

But 25-years of owning 1911s has me thinking that for totally instictive shooting I wouldn't do too bad to fall back on the 1911. I could handle a 1911 in my sleep, and that always leads me back to this platform.

I think I'm one very lucky man to own 1911s and XD45s both at the same time.

History Prof
September 28, 2006, 12:26 AM
XD45. I've never fired a Glock .45, but I don't like the way they feel when I've "test" held them. I've never fired an XD45, but I own an XD40 and I hits what I aims at, and the 45 feels pretty durn good in my hands, too. If I can ever afford another firearm, that will be next. I inherited a USP45 from by brother. Again, good, solid, reliable, and I will never part with it. But it neither compares with my XD40 in "point and click" nor the XD45 in (perceived) ergonomics. I also inherited a Para-Ord 14-45LDA. I really like that one, too, and again, will never part with it. It is my primary home defense weapon right now, but the XD40 will replace it once I have a few hundred rounds through it and really, really trust it, and once I get a light for the accessory rail. That is why I want an XD45. Yea, I could get a light for the USP, but it would have to be H&K's because the rail on the USP isn't Weaver/Picantinny. I also know I could get an adaptor, but that would take the fun out of saving $ to buy the XD45.:neener:

Big Gay Al
September 28, 2006, 12:30 AM
Well, "none of the above." You didn't list ANY Para-Ordnance, nor did you list any Colts. If you're going to have a list of 1911's, you've got to have at least ONE Colt on there. :eek:

September 28, 2006, 02:16 AM
Of the guns listed, I would trust my life only with the Glock 21, HK USP45 or Ruger P90.

September 28, 2006, 02:30 AM
NO Para's?:what: WHAT?? USP, springer,glock. The overpriced Checky pistol is a good one,but something 'bout the price increase when springfield started marketing them doesn't sit well with me.

September 28, 2006, 03:54 AM
Al, please. It was a list of .45s, not a list of 1911s. And obviously it couldn't be a list of all the .45s that ever existed. My personal vote FROM THAT LIST is the XD .45. I would just as easily pick the HK, but I don't have one right now as it is.

Big0o1, I can replace several parts on the XD or the Glock. I imagine others can too. Why are you looking to replace the parts already? If it's that unreliable maybe you should pick something else...and here come the flames....:D

Big Gay Al
September 28, 2006, 09:20 AM
Al, please. It was a list of .45s, not a list of 1911s. And obviously it couldn't be a list of all the .45s that ever existed. My personal vote FROM THAT LIST is the XD .45. I would just as easily pick the HK, but I don't have one right now as it is.
Ok, but first, I'd never pick a "fantastic plastic" when SHTF, and of the 1911's listed, I've never used them, so how could I trust them? Like I said, there's none on the list I'd pick. Sorry.

September 28, 2006, 01:04 PM
It's my daily carry. I have G 21 mags for extra capacity. It's easy to conceal, easy to shoot, easy to clean and maintain, accurate, reliable, and has softer recoil for faster follow-up shots than other .45 ACPs I've fired. That covers it for me.

Phil DeGraves
September 28, 2006, 01:24 PM
Kimber 1911. If that is the scenario, it would matter most on reliability and what I hit with most consistently and less on magazine capacity. With a good 1911, I can do all things required of a handgun better than any other. As long as I have fully loaded magazines.

September 28, 2006, 01:34 PM
Okay, I'll bite.;)

I went with the Ruger P90. Chunky, clunky & a bit heavy ... but it's what I'd pick if limited to the examples listed.

While I really like a good 1911, the only examples you listed were either Kimber or Springfield. I'd prefer one of my Colts or a SW1911, if limited to a production example.

The USP would've been my second choice, except that if a pistol is going to be my only defensive handgun in extended, potentially adverse and harsh environmental conditions ... I'd prefer metal over polymer. Sorry. Polymer may certainly possess sufficient strength when used within its intended design in a pistol, but there are certain conditions involving potential impact situations and temperature extremes, just to mention a couple of instances, in which I'd prefer to have a metal frame.

The SIG with the DAK trigger isn't appealing to me. I simply dislike DAO-type triggers in some designs. If it had been a P220 with a TDA trigger, that might've interested me.

The Ruger P345? Sorry ... the 345 has yet to receive consistently favorable owner reports. Another polymer frame, anyway.

The Glocks? Another polymer frame, and the .45 ACP chambered Glocks haven't really ever appealed to me. Some of the early magazine issues have been resolved over the years, and the most recent trigger bar revision may have finally resolved some of the occasional light-strike issues sometimes reported here & there by some LE agencies. I just don't care for the larger frame's dimensions and ergonomics, though.

The XD? Haven't handled and fired a .45 ACP model yet. I've handled and fired examples of the 9mm & .40 S&W standard models, however, and while they were seemingly reliable and reasonably accurate, during the short term, I just didn't care for them. Just a personal preference.

The P90 may be a bit long in the tooth compared to some of the newer models, and it may be large, heavy, clunky and ordinary ... but it's also well deserving of its reputation for reliability and ammunition tolerance, too.

My number one choice isn't on your list, though ... but since I also own a P90DC from the early production days, and have fired enough rounds through it to make it a bit aged and well-worn, I have some amount of confidence in the design and its durability. Throughout the years, I've experienced and observed more feeding failures with various incarnations of the P220 model than with Ruger P90's, too. Not too keen on the newest Ruger 8-round magazines, though, with the folded-leaf style follower and lighter magazine spring, although I like the machined dimples in the feed lips to help prevent the top round from being displaced under recoil if harder recoiling +P ammunition is ever used (which I no longer favor, anyway).

September 28, 2006, 01:35 PM
Last pistol I'll ever get?! I hope the s*** isn't hitting the fan for the rest of my life...but I'll take my USP with 12 round mags.

High Planes Drifter
September 28, 2006, 03:21 PM
Why did you chose to list the 220 DAK instead of a standard 220?
Any imprticular reason? Hmmm? Hmmm?

September 28, 2006, 03:23 PM
A bit of P220R w/ DAK bashing... is it just the DAK trigger everyone's not fond of or is it just anything in Sigs newer production?

You guys are the best, keep em rolling in! I'm learning a thing or two...


September 28, 2006, 03:36 PM
I voted for the Glock 21 because that is what I have for a "go-to" handgun.


That Springfield XD 45 Tactical is looking sweeter everyday.

September 28, 2006, 04:54 PM
The choice between fullsize, tactical, and compact might be tough, however. I know of several people who own them and swear by them. They are supposed to be some of the most reliable and acurate .45s around.

Now, if it wasn't my last gun for a while, I'd build a .45, customize it how I see fit.

Or buy a Jericho in .45 :D

September 28, 2006, 05:58 PM
I voted Glock 21, even though right now I have a Glock 30.

In a SHTF situation, I wanted a lot of loaded mags at ready. At $15 each I can afford a lot of them, compared to HK or Sig mags.

Plus it's just a great, reliable gun.


September 28, 2006, 09:01 PM
I voted for the XD tactical, although I'd rather have the service model. The extra weight on the end of the tactical seems to make for slower follow up shots for me.

September 30, 2006, 01:05 PM
ruger p90 its the only 45 i have and has never failed me.

September 30, 2006, 01:12 PM
I have owned both the XD45 AND THE HK USP If price was no object I took the HK spare mags will be cheaper on the xd and the GLOCK 21 IS JUST NOT a good fit in my hands were the above two feel fine.

September 30, 2006, 01:37 PM
Since you say I cant grab my P97 I would have to go with a 345 or a P90.

one shot one kill

Big Gay Al
September 30, 2006, 02:06 PM
ruger p90 its the only 45 i have and has never failed me.
Like Wilson, I only have one .45 now. It is an EAA Witness, and is NOT on the list. However, I'd have no qualms about grabbing my Witness when the SHTF.

Maybe "other" should have been an option on this list, rather than try to list all the .45s ever made.

Mr Kablammo
September 30, 2006, 02:16 PM
Smith & Wesson 4506!

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