Mauser broomhandle pistol?


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Retro
September 27, 2006, 11:38 AM
I am interested in getting a Mauser broomhandle pistol, and does anyone know where I may obtain one within $600 range? And how reliable is that kind of pistol, and how far does it shoot? Since it has a long barrel, I think the effective range is 50-100 yards? The ammos are pretty expensive, and I am curious to see if any 9 mm Mauser exists.

Thanks.

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Crimson
September 27, 2006, 01:26 PM
$600? Try $1000, real ones haven't been made since the 1930's.

Gun broker has a few on it at the moment

TimboKhan
September 27, 2006, 03:37 PM
you basically have no chance of picking up a broomhandle for $600.00 unless you are very, very, very lucky. Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but thats just how it is. You also have to be careful that you don't get a crappy chinese model that is cobbled together, which is typically what your dealing with if the gun is anything approaching cheap.

Function of the broomhandles is supposed to be pretty good, albeit obsolete when compared to firearms today. As far as how far it will shoot, well, thats a matter of skill and physics. The bullet will physically travel 100 yards, and even much farther, but it is unlikely you will be particularly accurate at that range. I have seen people hit stuff at ridiculous distances with a .22, but it's skill (and a little bit of luck) that got it done, not anything inherent to the cun or cartridge. Still, it can be fun to try and shoot handguns at long ranges, so I don't want to discourage you as much as I just want to make the point that it is a handgun, and as such is most effective within 50 yards at an absolute maximum

As for the 9mm version, the answer is that there are 9mm broomhandles, and they are exceedingly easy to spot because the grips will have a large red "9" carved into the handle. Now, I say that from the standpoint of how it is supposed to be. It is possible that someone produced a 9mm version in which this is not the case, but in that instance I would be disinclined to purchase the gun, let alone shoot it.

Vern Humphrey
September 27, 2006, 04:24 PM
Here are two broomhandles for less than $600. In addition, the same site has an astra (which is what most broomhandles actually were) in this price range.

Go to www.gunsamerica.com and enter broomhandle in the search field.

C-96 Broomhandle
GA# 976616372
$500.00
Late 1930 commercial. Serial number on frame only, but have not had apart. Proffesionally refinished.Original grips w/lanyard ring. Fair bore.Functions perfect.No import markings.
Seller: JERRY FEE
FFL Dealer: No Area Code: 606
BOLO BROOMHANDLE
GA# 976654606
$495.00
MAUSER BOLO BROOMHANDLE, NO FINISH REMAINING, POOR RIFLINGS, ALL NUMBERS MATCH, $495 + S&H
Seller: D+M GUNSMITHING
FFL Dealer: Yes Area Code: 573

Manedwolf
September 27, 2006, 04:25 PM
Second on being careful to NOT get a Chinese copy. They've been known to explode.

Carl N. Brown
September 27, 2006, 05:25 PM
The main problem with cheap Chinese copies is not that they will
explode, but that they will beat themselves into uselessness due
to bad steel, improper heat treatment; when the bolt stop or the
rear of the barrel extension behind the bolt stop breaks, the bolt
may fly out the rear of the barrel extension in the direction of
the shooter's face.

First step with any old Mauser broomhandle is replacing the
old hammer and recoil springs with new springs from a reliable
source like Wolff Gunsprings.

Second step is both the gun listings describe the barrels has
having fair or poor bore/rifling. That precludes any accuracy
with commercially available 7,63 Mauser ammo (or for the
adventurous (read: foolhardy) 7.62x25 Tokarev).

My Mauser had the ghost of rifling left in it, but I found that
.312 bullets (sierra 90gr JHP for reloading .32 H&R Mag) fit and
gave excellant accuracy in my reloads, using 7.62x25 S&B cases.
http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=31671&d=1132781102
Mausers do have a design quirk indicating that if they were made today,
the company lawyers would be dropping bricks: if the safety in OFF-safe
hits your hand in recoil, the safety can slip off the OFF-safe position
to what I call the "NOT"safe position: you pull the trigger, the gun does
not fire, but when you then move the safety back to full OFF-safe it will
drop the hammer kay-boom (bloody thumb).
The hammer can be reset to engage the sear by
a)pulling the hammer back with the thumb or
b)pushing the safety all the way ON-safe;
with the hammer reset to the sear, then you can move the safety to
full OFF-safe and resume shooting.
http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=37564&stc=1&d=1143404656
If, knowing about the dangers of substandard replacement parts on
some old Mausers, the need to replace the springs, the problems of
getting accuracy with worn barrels, and the precautions you must
take with 19th century safety systems, knowing all this you still
want a Mauser broomhandle, join the club: you got the C96 bug bad
big time.

TimboKhan
September 27, 2006, 05:32 PM
Vern,

Well, sure enough there are two, but I would personally be very suspicious at best of both. I really think Broomhandles fall into the "you get what you pay for" category, and I just can't see why someone would undersell the nearest competition by $500.00 (more or less) if there wasn't something pretty screwy going on...

Retro
September 27, 2006, 09:08 PM
wow... it is definitely wise for me to ask around before I invest any serious money on this... I thought the broomhandle looked cool and Churchill always carried one with him at all times, supposedly. Wow.. worn barrel, part flying into my pretty face... I am beginning to think otherwise... Thanks for all your inputs!

Vern Humphrey
September 27, 2006, 09:41 PM
Well, sure enough there are two, but I would personally be very suspicious at best of both. I really think Broomhandles fall into the "you get what you pay for" category, and I just can't see why someone would undersell the nearest competition by $500.00 (more or less) if there wasn't something pretty screwy going on...

Caviat Emptor is good advice. However not so long ago, I bought a Colt Woodsman on gunsamerica for $225. (Check and see what they usually sell for.)

This gun, made in 1938, was as advertised with Micro sights and in good condition. I shot a 1 7/8" group with it -- ten shots at 25 yards -- using a modified Weaver grip.

So while you have to be careful, every now and then you can find a great bargain.

TimboKhan
September 28, 2006, 01:31 AM
Vern,

Don't get me wrong, I LIVE for the good gun deals. The Broomhandle is one of the very few guns that I really, really think is worth paying top dollar for if it guarantees authenticity.

Retro, don't let the talk fool you. When we are talking about the horror stories, we are all referencing the Chinese copies. An authentic copy, while expensive, would be a very, very nice gun to have. I think I might have said it earlier, but if I didn't, I want one myself. It's just that this particular gun requires a lot more diligence when purchasing than does a Colt 1911 or something. The authentic copies, by all accounts, are well made guns.

Also, I want to make it clear that Vern Humphries probably has forgotten more about guns that I will ever know. Vern is one of the really, truly good guys on THR. I stand by my opinion, but in light of having read posts from Vern for the last year or so and finding him to be the voice of reason in practically every one of them, I will admit that maybe good deals aren't as hard to find as I intimated.

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