12ga magnum buckshot? magnum slugs?


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carterbeauford
September 27, 2006, 04:47 PM
Is there anyone out there who makes 3" or 3.5" buckshot or slug loads? I know 00 buck or a slug out of a 2.75" shell will more than kill anything within shotgun range, but I want to try something heavier in my 870 supermag. If for no other reason than fun "here put this against your shoulder" :neener:

If such a thing doesn't exist, is it safe to reload buckshot and slugs with magnum power charges? I would love to shoot a 3.5" slug, if only once.

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CWL
September 27, 2006, 05:30 PM
I know Remington makes 3" magnum shells in 00 & slug, don't know about 3.5" shells though. You should be able to buy them easily in PA or go online anywhere.

You probably need to experience shooting magnum loads as you say, I had to. After trying 3" magnum 00 and slugs, I developed a wince and was afraid my shotgun. You'll probably find out that pain doesn't really contribute to accuracy and handling of our shotgun(s).

I'm perfectly happy now with my Federal reduced recoil 00 2.75" loads, and at the headshots I practice at 20 yards.

The-Fly
September 27, 2006, 05:51 PM
Federal makes 3" buckshot and slug loads. Not as common or cheap as the 2.75 stuff, but its out there. I keep a few boxes of each for special occasions, and the last round in my 870 is a 3". I figure the last one should be the best one, besides the extra recoil wont matter at that point :D

carterbeauford
September 27, 2006, 06:11 PM
You probably need to experience shooting magnum loads as you say, I had to. After trying 3" magnum 00 and slugs, I developed a wince and was afraid my shotgun.

Federal 3.5" steel is tolerable. Not something I could shoot all day long but I'm not afraid of it. Heavier loads can't be that much worse. It is worth mentioning I use a slip-on recoil pad on that shotgun.

I'll look for the 3" buckshot and slugs, thanks for the tips.

Ben Shepherd
September 27, 2006, 06:43 PM
Shot some federal(IIRC) 3" 15 pellet OO magnum buck loads out of my brothers mossy.

4 shooters did this. The same 4 shooters also fired some top-end 180gr 300 win mag loads out of a ruger m77.

The consensus was that without a doubt, the shotgun recoiled MUCH harder.

So, if you insist on doing this, CORRECT form is crucial, unless you want a big bruise, and possibly a bloody nose.(Don't ask:scrutiny: :banghead: )

carterbeauford
September 27, 2006, 06:56 PM
Of course I have to ask :evil:

wdlsguy
September 27, 2006, 06:59 PM
Federal sells a couple of different 3.5" buckshot loads. One has 27 Pellets of 1 Buck, the other has 18 Pellets of 00 Buck. I have no desire to try either one. :what:

CaCrusin
September 27, 2006, 07:26 PM
Federal sells a couple of different 3.5" buckshot loads. One has 27 Pellets of 1 Buck, the other has 18 Pellets of 00 Buck. I have no desire to try either one. :what:

I tried both of them in a Mossberg 835 and, even with the SpecOps Stock, they let me know they were heavy hitters. They are shootable but pack a wallop! I would not like to try them without the SpecOps.

CaCrusin :cool:

carterbeauford
September 27, 2006, 08:44 PM
How much would you be willing to pay for me to put the rear pistol grip from my other 870 onto the supermag, shoot one of the 3.5" 00 buck shells and videotape the whole thing?

I didn't ever remember seeing those shells from Cabelas, but found them with no problem. I'll have to order a couple boxes soon and get back to you if I can still type.

swampgator
September 27, 2006, 08:46 PM
Federal 3.5" Turkey loads out of an unported 835 is stout. I would imagine shooting 3.5" buck or slugs would be a little stouter. Might not be as bad in an 870 though.

gak
September 27, 2006, 08:53 PM
Since Winchester came out with those Power Point 2 3/4 slugs at 1700 fps I haven't felt the need to go back to 3". If I was going someplace that had animals that could eat me, I'd take 3" Brenneke's at $3.00 per shot.:(

BoomStick82
September 28, 2006, 12:42 PM
I think I saw some Franchi 3.5" buckshot shells at the local shop yesterday. I'll try to get another look here soon.

BoomStick82

Ben Shepherd
September 28, 2006, 01:06 PM
OK, since you did ask:

When you get into a good hard stance with a good forward lean(because you KNOW it's gonna thump) DO NOT crawl the stock........

If you do get your head too far forward, it is possible that the thumb on your trigger hand could punch you in the nose(VERY HARD I might add).:scrutiny:

OR.......

If for some reason you need to go home looking like you've been in a brawl, do this repeatedly.:rolleyes: Preferably switching shoulders a few times.

Radamanthus
September 28, 2006, 04:55 PM
Lightfield makes 3.5" slugs for a 12 gauge shotgun. I haven't tried any yet, but the instant I get a shotgun that can handle 3.5" loads, I'll have to.

http://www.lightfieldslugs.com/

sm
September 28, 2006, 05:17 PM
How much would you be willing to pay for me to put the rear pistol grip from my other 870 onto the supermag, shoot one of the 3.5" 00 buck shells and videotape the whole thing?

Please don't.

I worked in the Main OR at one time, and I have seen the results, the surgery and the physical limitations caused by this very thing - more than once.


I have shot 3.5 00 buckshot from a Mossberg 835, bone stock. Gun fit and proper mounting gun to face and getting into shoulder pocket - I was fine.
I also did it for timed hits, again, I did fine, just times slower than with 2 3/4" Federal 9 pellet 00 , or Federal 2 3/4" slugs.

Geronimo-7
September 28, 2006, 05:51 PM
I saw Lightfield 3.5" slugs for sale at Gander Mountain. They are a little pricey.

Run&Shoot
October 1, 2006, 05:01 AM
Brenneke makes 3 inch 1 3/8 oz slugs. I know becasue I shot a few today. They really kick! They shot way low out of my Rem 870 Marine Magum. Not something you want to shoot a lot of at one time. Of course, if something was trying to eat me and I was likely to get only one shot off, then these mommas would be my choice for changing their minds (inside out).

mjolnir
October 1, 2006, 12:38 PM
Recoil of 3" buck/slug in an 870 is fully equivalent to elephant rifle recoil...

Same loads in an 11-87 are much more tolerable...perhaps the best way to experience the reduced felt-recoil effects of a gas-operated autoloader.

DaleCooper51
October 1, 2006, 03:34 PM
Wont do that again.

3.5 inch Federal 00 buck

5lb NEF with 3.5 inch chambered turkey barrel installed.

Hard Plastic butt pad.

Fun but OUCH.

pikid89
November 25, 2009, 12:49 AM
I have Winchester SuperX 3.5s in 00 buck 18 pellet havnt tried them yet, supermag 870

hub
November 25, 2009, 01:26 AM
Hey pikid89, I'm guessing you stumbled on this thread by searching? Nothing wrong with that at all but did you notice the last time someone posted in this thread was three years ago. You may not get a quick response back from them.

Read sm's post, he knows what he is talking about. Take care to get a good cheek wield and get it into your shoulder pocket and the recoil won't be that bad.

RevolvingGarbage
November 26, 2009, 12:36 PM
I fired a few (and i mean A FEW )Wincester 3.5" 00 buck shells through an autoloader. I think its an 18 pellet load at 1300~FPS.

Very "stout" xD

Harley Man
November 29, 2009, 07:38 AM
If you want to try something heavier forget the slugs and go to this web site and check out all the 12 Gauge Exotic Ammo.......
http://www.deltaforce.com/catalog/12gaugeammo.html

Harley Man
Proud Viet Nam Vet

devildog32713
November 29, 2009, 11:41 AM
Here is Remington's full lineup of Express Magnum Buckshot, I shot the 2 3/4 magnum round, it's a kicker, since I keep some on hand, helps me sleep easier, :)

http://www.basspro.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product_10151_-1_10001_28629____SearchResults

Geezer59
November 29, 2009, 11:59 AM
MidwayUSA's selection of 12 ga. heavies:
3-1/2" buck (http://www.midwayusa.com/browse/BrowseProducts.aspx?pageNum=1&tabId=3&categoryId=17574&categoryString=653***9217***9488***)
3-1/2" slugs (http://www.midwayusa.com/browse/BrowseProducts.aspx?pageNum=1&tabId=3&categoryId=17573&categoryString=653***9217***9488***)
3" buck (http://www.midwayusa.com/browse/BrowseProducts.aspx?pageNum=1&tabId=3&categoryId=17570&categoryString=653***9217***9487***)
3" slugs (http://www.midwayusa.com/browse/BrowseProducts.aspx?pageNum=1&tabId=3&categoryId=17569&categoryString=653***9217***9487***)

SnakeLogan
November 29, 2009, 05:48 PM
Here is Remington's full lineup of Express Magnum Buckshot, I shot the 2 3/4 magnum round, it's a kicker, since I keep some on hand, helps me sleep easier

2 3/4 inch 12 pellet loads are my favorite HD round, but I ran out and no where around here sells them any more. Now I'm stuck deciding between 2 3/4 inch 9 pellet and 3 inch 15 pellet.

tactikel
November 29, 2009, 08:29 PM
winchester 3.5" shells have 18 pellets of 00 buck,
the #4 buck has 54 pellets.

Paraklese
December 12, 2009, 09:32 PM
My employer makes a 3" 18 pellet 00. That is 2 1/4 ounces of lead BABY.

www.paraklesetechnologies.com

Kicks like a friggin mule in my 1100 and I won't shoot it in my 870 wingmaster.

God bless,

r D

-v-
December 12, 2009, 10:03 PM
My local GM has a glut of 15 pellet 3" 00 right now. From firing off a few of 'em in my Mossy 500 with a 6-position stock (5.5lb gun, loaded weight), I will say that the recoil is stout. The first shot is not fun, the second shot is VERY not fun. I didn't want to try shooting the third shot.

With a limb-saver they are actually OK. Recoil is stout, but manageable. I had no problems firing off a full 7-shot mag of 3" magnums with a limb-saver pad on the stock. If you weigh the stock down with some steel BB to get your gun to about 7lbs or so, recoil is comparable/less than Federal #8 birdshot, I found.

If your gun is already 7lbs, I think 15 pellet 3" magnum 12ga is highly manageable, albeit it is stout.

CajunBass
December 13, 2009, 11:27 PM
Good grief. I've never shot a 3.5", 12 ga. There was no such thing back in the day when I was seriously deer hunting, but I never killed but one deer with 2 3/4" Buckshot loads. Every other one was with 3" buck, Remington Number one specifically. I can't say I ever noticed the recoil when hunting, and although they kicked a bit when patterning them, it was certainly nothing to run away and hide from.

This was using an old Sears/Mossberg pump gun that I thought was pretty light. Lighter than an 870 anyway.

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