What is your favorite Sig P220 Trigger?


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HMMurdock
September 28, 2006, 03:33 PM
I have touched on it on a few of my previous threads and I keep getting sporatic comments so I thought I should go straight to the horse's mouth.

The Sig P220 .45ACP comes in the classic single action/double action (SA/DA) trigger it has for years, the new single action only (SAO) variation, and the Double Action Kellerman (DAK) double-action only variation that was recently adopted by the Dept. of Homeland Security on their 9mm and .40S&W sidearms. I probably missed some other variations, so please fill me on on the good ones.

What is everyone's view on these different triggers and why?

TRL

P.S. I have sensed some hostility towards Sigs newer productions as opposed to their older lines. Why is that?

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md7
September 28, 2006, 05:58 PM
The only trigger I have any real experience with in the SIGs is the DA/SA and I really like that set up, though I'm sure the other ones are fine. In response to your question as to why there is negative feelings towards the newer SIGs. I did not know, until reading a few comments on this forum, that this sentiment out there. From what I have read, the older SIGs slides were stamped metal, and made in West Germany. Todays SIG slides are not (at least from what i have read) made from stamped metal. i don't know what this means as far as one gun being "better" than the other. I hope that i did not completely miss the mark in answering your question. I really don't know very much about the issue other than telling you what I have read.

varoadking
September 28, 2006, 08:04 PM
Finally got a chance to pick up my P220R Carry DAK with SiG Lites today. I really liked the slide length from the first time I saw one. I'd shot a P229 DAK, so I figured...what the hell...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v22/varoadking/220Cry_Blk_DAK_rt.jpg

Likely won't get shot until Sunday. Only 3 things I don't care for:

1. The usual SiG slide finish - ya think they would have discovered that there are better options these days.
2. The grips are not DAK specific. Yeesh - how hard can it be to mold a proper set of grip panels.
3. The rails, of course.

Actually, the traditional long SiG reset has always bothered me, but I did appreciate the DAK coming stock with the short trigger.

So, with a flitz'd barrel, stainless guide rod, Hogue panel grips & hex screws, 15 new Novak magazines, and a couple thousand rounds of Lawman ball in the house...we're pretty well geared up for the range this weekend...

HMMurdock
September 29, 2006, 12:59 AM
VAROADKING, the P220R Carry is a gorgeous piece! Congratulations!

Out of curiosity, to you or anyone else with a DAK, do you consider it noticeably heavier of a pull than a Glock trigger weight?

TRL

varoadking
September 29, 2006, 06:53 AM
Not so much heavier, but significantly longer...

Ala Dan
September 29, 2006, 07:19 AM
DA/SA :cool: :D

Alan Fud
September 29, 2006, 08:13 AM
I've been a fan of DA/SA for over two decades but DAO/DAK has been starting to grow on me the past few years.

Cousin Mike
September 29, 2006, 08:19 AM
My favorite SIG trigger system is the traditional DA/SA setup. I like it because the decocker negates the need for a safety, so you can carry it ready to go. The long, heavy (10 lb.) DA trigger pull is enough that nothing bumping the trigger by accident will cause a discharge, but it's manageable enough that you can get a good, quick, accurate shot off when you need to. The SA pull at 4.5 lbs. resets quckly enough that rapid firing is effortless.

As for the hostility towards their newer products, for me it's a matter of "messing with perfection," so to speak. I know I'm somewhat of a SIG-whore, but I think SIG is just playing to the 1911 crowd with the SAO. I'm personally not crazy about DAO triggers, my Beretta Cougar is a DAO and although rapid firing is possible, it takes effort and isn't as easy to control.

Hard to go all Jerry Miculek on 'em at the range when you have to pull on a 7 pound trigger repeatedly. :D

However, regardless of my personal feelings, SIG has a business to run - so I understand the need to reach out to those who aren't fond of the traditional DA/SA system. The new R-series guns have a tacti-cool look that I'm really not crazy about - I'm not a big fan of light rails and gadget hookups on pistols. I thought the original SIG P-guns to be genuis in their simplicity. I think they should stick to making high quality weapons rather than trying to market to the mall ninja fan club.

usp_fan
September 29, 2006, 08:52 AM
I voted the traditional trigger, but give SIG some time to work out the kinks on the SAO, and I might have to change my mind.

--usp_fan

Falconeer
September 29, 2006, 10:41 AM
I didn't vote as I've only had experience with DA/SA. I have a P220C SAO on order, and am working on a P226R DAK. Have to round out my experience, don't ya know. :)

Personally I think it's a preference thing. In a perfect world you'd have the opportunity to try them all. In the real world... well, you may have to ask a bunch of interweb goons on some goofball forum for their views. God only knows what kind of answers you'll get. :p

MadMercS55
September 29, 2006, 04:37 PM
The only things I don't like much about newer SIGs are the stainless slides and the light rails. Pretty much all my pieces are older\German made ones for this reason. I carry a German made P220 and like the balance of it much better than the newer P220R's I've handled and fired. I pretty much grew up using traditional DA/SA weapons like the SIG, Beretta, HK, etc. I have no problems with the first shot's heavier trigger pull. That being said, I also appreciate a good SA weapon, and plan on looking into the P220SAO once fully debugged. I've had older DAO SIG's and hated the trigger. I've tried the DAK as well and didn't like it either. If I want a consistant trigger pull I'd probably go with a Glock or HK's LEM, since both worked better for me.

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