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Ditchtiger
September 28, 2006, 11:37 PM
My girl wants her own handgun. She wants one like her sisters Taurus 92 but has smaller hands. She's 16, shoots my .45 Kimber and .30 cal. rifles with ease. Lets go with a 9mm, S&W single stack or a High power, no Glocks, and should have a hammer, any other ideas? Thank You.

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Retro
September 28, 2006, 11:38 PM
why not a revolver? point-and-shoot type of things for self-defense.

Bob F.
September 28, 2006, 11:44 PM
Maybe SHE doesn't WANT or NEED a revolver! Sounds like she can handle an auto just fine.

Brian Williams
September 28, 2006, 11:45 PM
Great idea, look at the HP inexpensive ones can be gotten that were FMs or made in Argentina. Also a Keltec p11 or a S&W 3913.

Bob F.
September 28, 2006, 11:45 PM
Maybe SHE doesn't WANT or NEED a revolver! Sounds like she can handle an auto just fine. SWMBO likes Makarov and Kahr CW-9 grip size, FWIW.

outofbattery
September 28, 2006, 11:54 PM
S&W 3913 or 908, SIG 239,a .380 but somewhat similar to her sister's 92-what about a Beretta 84/85?

ETXhiker
September 28, 2006, 11:57 PM
If she likes the single stack grip, I second the S&W 3913. If she has small hands, a Kahr would be even more ergonomic, but you said it had to have a hammer (why? For safety?)

Black Majik
September 29, 2006, 12:00 AM
The most fun single stack 9mm I had the pleasure of shooting would be the SIG P225.

10-Ring
September 29, 2006, 12:09 AM
Beretta made a compact 92 single stack for a while...I believe it was a 'L' model. Go check berettaforum.net for more info
;)

Shrike360
September 29, 2006, 12:30 AM
Since she shoots your Kimber well, you may want look at a 9mm 1911.

loki.fish
September 29, 2006, 01:15 AM
Since she shoots your Kimber well, you may want look at a 9mm 1911.

Sounds like good advice there. She's familiar with the 1911 and you say she shoots it with "ease". Sounds like the perfect setup for her.

Navy87Guy
September 29, 2006, 01:25 PM
I'd recommend either a new Beretta PX4 or a CZ 75. The PX4 has interchangeable backstraps that let you customize the grip size. My wife just tried mine with the small backstrap and she's in love (which means I get to buy another one!).

The CZ is a double stack, but the grip is pretty average sized -- more like a 1911.

In either case, she'd have an accurate, reliable and smooth shooting gun.

Jim

tenisiejer
September 29, 2006, 01:29 PM
LLama, 380, would be perfect.

Helstrm
September 29, 2006, 01:31 PM
I will second the 1911 in 9mm. She is already familiar with the kimber and it is a very safe gun as long as it is maintained.

ugaarguy
September 29, 2006, 01:47 PM
Ditchtiger, thank you for taking the time to teach your daughters to shoot, and for ensuring they have guns they enjoy. Keep up the good work.

History Prof
September 29, 2006, 02:48 PM
I've never liked 9MM much, but just before my dad passed away, he gave me a Firestar (Star Bonifacio Echeverria SA). Because of its small size, I gave it to my daughter, who was still shooting .22 at the time. She's happy with it. It is somewhat similar to a 1911.

bb21
September 29, 2006, 06:09 PM
You could check out the CZ-75 platform that would include Baby Eagles and Witness, but they are Double stack, the Baby Eagle has a better grip for smaller hands IMO. The hammer and single stack limit you, so the 1911 platform may fit the bill, but the cost might be greater to do so. I hear that a lot of women like the Mill Pro because they fit their hands well (mine too) and the quality of Taurus has definatly improved. Just my .02! Good luck and be Safe

Ditchtiger
September 29, 2006, 11:38 PM
No .380's mainly because I'm set to load 9's. Nothing larger since this will be her choice for a shooter, and defence. I'd like to keep the price at $500 but for her I'd go over. She can handle mag. revolvers but thats not what she asked for. I have complete trust in my P11 for summer carry but that's not to her liking. Have not looked at the Sigs yet but this will be hers to say. I'm not going to give her any pistol and say, here's what you want get used to it. Her 3 older brothers were happy with anything that went bang and had lots of power.

Bjg0082
September 30, 2006, 01:34 AM
I don't have huge hands and it fits me like a glove. Most ergonomic gun I've ever owned.

Plus its 9mm. Mine reliably feeds Speer Gold dots and hydra-shocks.
I love it.

tegemu
September 30, 2006, 11:11 AM
Check out PAX's website, www.corneredcat.com . I don't know of anyone who knows more about guns and women than she does nor do I know anyone who can communicate it better. She speaks about the right gun for a particular woman. Her site is a good read for both men and women.

AirForceShooter
September 30, 2006, 12:32 PM
she shoots your Kimber .45 with ease. There's your answer.

My daughter started shooting when she was 8. Wheh she was 14 she asked to try my .45. That was it. Search was all over. She's 28 now and has been hauling her .45 around since then. It's all she shoots. I don't know how many times she's rebuilt it. But she loves the round and a 1911.

I don't know why people here are steering her into 9MM and smaller things. A 1911 is thin and very CCWable. A 1911 is a soft recoil and stable platform.

And the real fun is when you go to the range with your daughter and she hauls out her 1911 and all the guys get into the "that's a big gun for a little girl" crap and she starts to shoot 3" groups at 25 yards rapid fire.

And lastly it is her choice. You don't have a thing to say about it.

AFS

MatthewVanitas
September 30, 2006, 03:51 PM
she shoots your Kimber .45 with ease. There's your answer.
But is it her favorite?


I vote that a shopping trip is in order. Take a lazy afternoon, grab a nice lunch with her (sidewalk cafe, quiche and cappuccino, or whatever it is that teenage girls like), then go to the gunstore and let her try everything on for size. Tell her the budget, let her figure out what she likes and choose it. Should be a great father-daughter bonding time.

Then when Christmas or birthday comes up, some nice hardwood or pearlite grips.

The CZ P01 is definitely worth at least checking out, as mentioned by others. Plus Hakkan Pek makes gorgeous grips at reasonable prices [grin].

Glad to see that Ditch isn't the type to choose for her. I've never understood all the "what gun to buy for my wife/gf" threads, but fortunately Pax has an article addressing exactly that. Pasting a link to Pax's page saves us all a lot of time.

-MV

Cliff47
September 30, 2006, 05:10 PM
Sounds like an excellent idea, let her select her own firearm, given budget and other considerations. The family that shoots together has interlocking fields of fire.

the hudge
September 30, 2006, 10:06 PM
My daughter has had a Sig 229 SAS and a Kahr PM-9 for over a year and she loves them. She likes out shooting others (me) at the range. The old men laugh and compliment her and me on her ability.
She also owns and shoots an AK and Mosien M-38.

She thinks my AR is a baby gun.

Ditchtiger
September 30, 2006, 10:20 PM
There is a show in town next weekend, I had already planned on taking her to it. As for the calibre, she's the one who picked a 9mm. The external hammer was my choice, not for safety but just because I like hammers, don't know why, maybe because of all the revolvers I've owned or shot. My daughter does not care if there is a hammer or not. Will have to wait and see what she turns to, will let everyone know next Sunday. OOPS, my girl came up behind me and found out about the show, you should have seen the smile on her face! For another smile like that I would even let her get a Glock.

Autolycus
September 30, 2006, 11:39 PM
HK P2000 or Hk P2000sk. Great gun. Get a V3 with the Da/SA trigger and night sights.

Just_a_dude_with_a_gun
September 30, 2006, 11:44 PM
My wife also has small hands and likes my Sig P239. You may also want to try Makarovs, Kahr K9 and the Beretta cougar .380.

Autolycus
September 30, 2006, 11:47 PM
I think the best advice would be to let her choose what gun she would like to carry. But I still endorse a P2000sk.

hotsauce
October 1, 2006, 01:32 AM
Beretta PX4 w/small backstrap.:D

jac714
October 1, 2006, 10:45 PM
I would recommend you have your daughter read a great website:

www.corneredcat.com

it has a great section on buying guns for the women in your life. After that go to a good range with rental guns and let her fiond one that works for her.

Good Luck.

MT GUNNY
October 1, 2006, 11:26 PM
Or take her down to the sportting good store and let her decide,

Ditchtiger
October 8, 2006, 02:26 PM
Calla found an autoloader and we brought it home from the gunshow! It's a Taurus PT 92 AF 9mm, blue steel for $300. I was willing to buy a new 92 for $450 but every one had a light rail on it and my daughter didn't like the way the rail made the gun look, she said she didn't want to put a lazer or light on the gun anyway. But she found a very nice used gun, only one small, short scratchand not much slide wear on the barrel's blueing. My daughter didn't like the wood grips so we ditched them and found a Pachmayr signature wrap-around set. I have 20 mags for her sisters 92 at home so we stopped at the house for ammo and mags. Calla loaded a dozen magazines while I cleaned the 92 and gave it fresh oil. Up in the hills several hundred rounds went through the 92, only 3 rounds failed to feed,(reloads that had a couple of unsized bullets), shot fine other than that. Now to find a rifle for her.

ugaarguy
October 8, 2006, 02:39 PM
Congrats on the new piece. Now you gotta at least post pics of the gun, though pics of dad & daughter with her new pistol would be best. Always great to hear of more young folks, either gender, getting into shooting, and a parent taking the time to support them. Pass along my compliments on the choice of blued steel and no light rail, she has good taste in her firearm choices. Sounds like you two had fun today, and I hope y'all have many more fun afternoons out shootin'.

MatthewVanitas
October 8, 2006, 03:29 PM
This is a definite testament to the "let her choose her own gun" mentality.

Almost nobody would tell you "get her a Taurus PT92", and if anyone on this board had suggested it, everyone else would say that it's too heavy and wide for a girl.

Heck, I'm a guy and I think that Berettas are too big for me, I stick w/ single-stack pistols when possible.

However, your girl looked around and made an informed decision on something that _she_ likes and will shoot well.

Kudos, most motivational.

-MV

two tone
October 9, 2006, 12:47 AM
something with a stainless slide and black frame.

Geronimo45
October 9, 2006, 01:34 AM
CZ 75 - maybe the SP-01, or P-01. The SP is longer.
CZ 83s are cheap, decent sized, with good capacity... very fun item in .32 ACP, probably no problem with .380, either.
I'm not suggesting the CZ 83 just 'cause it be a female of the species. I think you should have one if you're 7'3 or 3'7. So cheap... with high capacity, too.

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